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@BFeldmanCBS: There are 36 Patriots who came up in internet recruiting era. 18 were rated as 2-Star prospects or worse: http://t.co/Es0vSFku
What were Alabama's recruiting classes ranked the last few years?
Your logic is awful here. If all you're saying is you want to give AG the benefit of the doubt on his specific evaluations until proven otherwise, fine, great, we all agree (or most do).Almost anyone, even your grandmas, can watch a football game long enough or give kids the look test and divide the kids into 3 groups with one group being the best, and so on.
They will miss on some, but overall be "statistically" right. Some kids ANYONE can spot. So the argument that the rating have merit by the star chasers on the web make me laugh. Plus the sites boost kids based on the offers as well, so its even less objective.
If that's not enough, it been ADMITTED, by the very people who RANK these kids, that they cook the books all the time to boost the ratings of the websites with large subscription bases. Knowing that, I am not sure what kind of person would defend the internet rankings, if not a "star chaser." That's the definition of.. well, use your imagination.
Internet website recruiting evaluators are just fans. They aren't employed as real journalists by any major sports media company, and they aren't even HS position coaches. They are former mailmen and fry guys... fans, who are unemployable by any metric by any real journalistic or sports industry standard. Any one of them would kill for a real job in sports. They squeak out a living off these rabid fan bases. Its entertainment purposes only.
You need to be able to evaluate, period. The very highest ranked class in UM history was LITERALLY its worst... Erickson's #1 class. And we can go on and on with that.
The Patriots had a team go 15-4 made up of 50% zero-2 stars. Repeat, we're not taking about a list of NFL no-stars, we're taking about over two dozen on ONE SUPER BOWL TEAM. They are all over the NFL and starring at plenty of colleges.
People can defend the star system and a bunch of low grade want-to-be reporters all they want, but anyone who actually makes a real living in football would laugh. What kind of program would let these yahoo's essentially decide who they recruit? A program with a new coaching staff coming down the pike pretty soon, that's who.
90% of 'star ranking' is based on offer lists.what matters most is the kids offer list....whenever I see a nick saban or former butch davis offer you know the kid can ball....
Yes, it should be expected. The point is that the "star" system failed to identify any of those Super Bowl players mentioned by the OP. There is more talent in the 3 star pool than in all the 4 and 5s together. A coach who can evaluate talent will find them because "he isn't looking at the number of star", he's evaluating a prospect. People who complain about 2 and 3 star players are missing the point. Successful coaches do not pick players randomly off a star list.Every year, there's like 25 five star kids, and thousands and thousands of two stars or lower.
Considering this, why is it a surprise that there's more two star or lower kids in the NFL? Shouldn't that be expected?
Not sure what's interesting about the statistic in the OP, unless the topic is the Patriots particular draft strategy.
We know that the success rate for 2 star kids is wildly lower than that for 4 or 5 star kids.
We know that in a large pool (such as the thousands of 2* kids), some will outperform the pool's mean by a substantial amount.
Someone would have to completely fail to understand probability and statistics to expect otherwise.
I am far from a star chaser, but the arguments about 2* kids are as intellectually vapid as anything going.
When it comes to specific kids being evaluated by the staff, the issue is their specific evaluations, not general rules. Some staffs are good, others less good, when it comes to evals. It's also different when a kids was evaluated live at a camp, plays near campus and the staff knows his HS coach. Contrast that to some kid from Fresno we happen upon in mid-January when other options strike out. That's going to raise more eyebrows. Rightfully so.