Interesting Concept by LSU center

[TemplarCane]

Source: 2018 NCAA Football Rules and Interpretations PDF / NCAA Publications - 2018 NCAA Football Rules and Interpretations

Shift and False Start ARTICLE 2. a. Shift. After a huddle (Rule 2-14) or shift (Rule 2-22-1) and before the snap, all Team A players must come to an absolute stop and remain stationary in their positions without movement of the feet, body, head or arms for at least one full second before the ball is snapped. (A.R. 7-1-2-I). b. False Start. Each of the following is a false start by Team A if it occurs prior to the snap after the ball is ready for play and all players are in scrimmage formation:

1. Any movement by one or more players that simulates the start of a play.
2. The snapper moving to another position.
3. A restricted lineman (Rule 2-27-4) moving his hand(s) or making any quick movement. [Exceptions: 1. It is not a false start if a Team A lineman immediately reacts when threatened by a Team B player in the neutral zone (Rule 7-1-5-a-2) (A.R. 7-1-3-V) 2. Rule 7-1-3-a-3].
4. An offensive player making any quick, jerky movement before the snap, including but not limited to: (a) A lineman moving his foot, shoulder, arm, body or head in a quick, jerky motion in any direction. (b) The snapper shifting or moving the ball, moving his thumb or fingers, flexing his elbows, jerking his head, or dipping his shoulders or buttocks. (c) The quarterback making any quick, jerky movement that simulates the beginning of a play.

Rule 4(b) does not specify to be fair. But rule 3 kind of does?

Sort of.

Nothing I saw in the tweet video should be illegal.

All the center did was flex his fingers. I am sure this was an attempt to draw the DL offsides. And it worked. It seems too much for the officials to watch. Besides, a DL can jump up and down and move all they want, as long as they do not make contact with the OL or violate the encroachment rule.

 

[FUGators FUNoles]

Gotta give these two Louisiana State dooshbags a little credit.

At least they aren’t Gators or Noles pretending to be Miami fans like a few regulars on this site.

 

[Astcloud11]

Sort of.

Nothing I saw in the tweet video should be illegal.

All the center did was flex his fingers. I am sure this was an attempt to draw the DL offsides. And it worked. It seems too much for the officials to watch. Besides, a DL can jump up and down and move all they want, as long as they do not make contact with the OL or violate the encroachment rule.

This is true to an extent. If the DL makes movement that causes the OL to false start, they get penalized for it as well.

Regardless, If he's jerking his hand or moving it fast (which can't really be told by a slow mo video) then I can't really agree that it SHOULD be legal. Sometimes the DL has to look at the ball with their peripheral vision instead of staring straight at the ball, so hand movement like that from the center is a nice tip off that they have snapped the ball, because there is a tendency for Centers/Guards to open their hands immediately off the snap when entering a pass blocking stance.

 

[TemplarCane]

This is true to an extent. If the DL makes movement that causes the OL to false start, they get penalized for it as well.

Regardless, If he's jerking his hand or moving it fast (which can't really be told by a slow mo video) then I can't really agree that it SHOULD be legal. Sometimes the DL has to look at the ball with their peripheral vision instead of staring straight at the ball, so hand movement like that from the center is a nice tip off that they have snapped the ball, because there is a tendency for Centers/Guards to open their hands immediately off the snap when entering a pass blocking stance.

I think the DL has to cross the line of scrimmage to be called for encroachment. I might be wrong.

But, fair enough.

 

[Astcloud11]

I think the DL has to cross the line of scrimmage to be called for encroachment. I might be wrong.

But, fair enough.

I think the NFL may be slightly different. Either that, or one of them (NCAA or NFL) may have changed rules. As it stands currently in the NCAAF, if a defensive lineman jumps offsides, you are right, there is no penalty unless he makes contact. However, like mentioned above, the DLineman will be penalized if he jumps and the OLineman makes any movements that can be considered a false start.

 

[TemplarCane]

I think the NFL may be slightly different. Either that, or one of them (NCAA or NFL) may have changed rules. As it stands currently in the NCAAF, if a defensive lineman jumps offsides, you are right, there is no penalty unless he makes contact. However, like mentioned above, the DLineman will be penalized if he jumps and the OLineman makes any movements that can be considered a false start.

I think you’re correct. Thanks.