Interesting Carson Beck article from David Hale

[GrozDozer]

I know, my husband and I both cracked up laughing and then set him straight.

He went to Texas undergrad though, so he’s a Longhorn fan. Maybe all that oil money has skewed his sense of reality.

As an aside, I once worked with a psychologist who did some grad work in the health care field and told me about a study she worked on. Apparently, a staggeringly high number of doctors are on the spectrum, much, much higher than the regular population. So while they are very book smart, many don’t have the best social skills.

You’re ***?

 

[423Hurricane]

You’re ***?

@caneingville revealed not long ago that SHE’s a natural she.

 

[caneingville]

You’re ***?

 

[Brooklyndee]

Link to the full article below, which has a bunch of cool notes (Bain on Beck, UGA staff sources telling Hale they didn't want to lose Beck). Below is a quick stat analysis which matches the eye test:

What if I told you one of these QBs is getting love as a potential No. 1 draft pick for 2026 and the other is coming off a "down year"?

QB A: 82.3 QBR, 28 TD passes, 12 INTs, 64.7% completions, 7.78 yards per attempt
QB B: 79.1 QBR, 29 TD passes, 12 INTs, 64.2% completions, 7.72 yards per attempt

So, who's the hot shot and who's spiraling downward? QB B is LSU's Nussmeier, who's a favorite in the way-too-early mock drafts. QB A is Miami's Beck, who was supposed to be a possible No. 1 pick until his 2024 performance drew heavy criticism.

OK, one more.

QB A: 72% completions, 9.45 yards per pass, 24 touchdown passes, 3,941 passing yards
QB B: 73% completions, 8.74 yards per pass, 29 touchdown passes, 3,917 passing yards

QB B looks a tick better, right? Well, QB A is Beck's 2023 season at Georgia, when he was lauded as one of the nation's best. QB B is Beck's 2024 season at Georgia, if you adjust his stat line to the same rate of drops and contested catches by his receiving corps in 2024 that he had in 2023.

A little help from his friends

Carson Beck's numbers were down in 2024. How much of it was actually due to a lackluster supporting cast?

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The nussmier love is wild to me. That kid doesn't impress me at all when I watch LSU. He's very hit or miss.

 

[caneingville]

The nussmier love is wild to me. That kid doesn't impress me at all when I watch LSU. He's very hit or miss.

Did you see my post on the middle first page (this thread) where Hale compares Beck’s stats to Nussmeyer’s? If not, check it out. I was surprised.

Maybe he just gets so much love from ESPN because of nepotism?

 

[Brooklyndee]

Did you see my post on the middle first page (this thread) where Hale compares Beck’s stats to Nussmeyer’s? If not, check it out. I was surprised.

Maybe he just gets so much love from ESPN because of nepotism?

It's all sec and brian Kelly. If he was the QB at Duke you wouldn't hear a word about him. ESPN disgusts me now with obvious they make all their agendas now

 

[caneingville]

It's all sec and brian Kelly. If he was the QB at Duke you wouldn't hear a word about him. ESPN disgusts me now with obvious they make all their agendas now

Exactly. A Sooner friend and I ran some data a few years back on how the ESPN / SEC contract in the 2000s impacted the polls and playoff rankings. We were proving SEC bias and how it was responsible for the unfair advantage and thus the “more championships” to our Gator friends from b-school (went to UF for my MBA). Wish I still had our report.

 

[CF3]

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You forgot # 4 Jeff Thomas , he could Strike fear into a Secondary with Speed.
Had WR1 but 1st grade Maturity.

Feel like his ceiling would always have been uber-talented slot guy/return weapon much like a Zach Branch who just transferred to Georgia. Wouldn't put him in the #1 Category like Dre, Ahmmon, Allen Hurns, or Hankerson. I'll argue that maybe I missed on Phillip Dorsett or maybe Tommy Streeter.

 

[caneingville]

It's all sec and brian Kelly. If he was the QB at Duke you wouldn't hear a word about him. ESPN disgusts me now with obvious they make all their agendas now

Sorry for the double post - but wanted to ask for your personal take on this since you have personal knowledge the rest of us don’t have.

Are the changes as bad as the rest of us (fans) see? We’ve always all thought there to be an anti-Miami bias, although I never knew if those on the “inside” agreed. Is it just getting more “SEC” because of their contract and financial interests? Do you see individual media interests that diverge from the mothership?

Thanks.

 

[Brooklyndee]

Exactly. A Sooner friend and I ran some data a few years back on how the ESPN / SEC contract in the 2000s impacted the polls and playoff rankings. We were proving SEC bias and how it was responsible for the unfair advantage and thus the “more championships” to our Gator friends from b-school (went to UF for my MBA). Wish I still had our report.

People don't grasp that. Our own fans who argue how much better the sec must be because of looking at nothing but rankings are just as sad to me. All the sec does is beat up on other sec schools and the top of the pack performs relatively well. But like Spurrier showed with us they play minimal out of conference games against other legit squads. The rankings are more media propaganda when the majority of the vote comes from media members who are paid by sec companies & conglomerates. The best conference hands down for the last 5 years or so at least is the big10. Yet it's the sec flooding rankings from week to week. Missouri,ole ****,Auburn,sceast,ufag etc. too many teams shouldnt even receive a vote. But they keep them around so it's favorable for their strength of schedule at the end of the season. Bull**** is all it is.

 

[caneingville]

People don't grasp that. Our own fans who argue how much better the sec must be because of looking at nothing but rankings are just as sad to me. All the sec does is beat up on other sec schools and the top of the pack performs relatively well. But like Spurrier showed with us they play minimal out of conference games against other legit squads. The rankings are more media propaganda when the majority of the vote comes from media members who are paid by sec companies & conglomerates. The best conference hands down for the last 5 years or so at least is the big10. Yet it's the sec flooding rankings from week to week. Missouri,ole ****,Auburn,sceast,ufag etc. too many teams shouldnt even receive a vote. But they keep them around so it's favorable for their strength of schedule at the end of the season. Bull**** is all it is.

The SEC PR / marketing machine has worked very, very well.

Edit: forgot to add it starts with preseason rankings. See UF being ranked as high as top 10!!! right now as an example.

 

[Brooklyndee]

The SEC PR / marketing machine has worked very, very well.

Edit: forgot to add it starts with preseason rankings. See UF being ranked as high as top 10!!! right now as an example.

Look how they were regarded last season before the season started. Only time all that switched up is once we spank them then all of a sudden it was all they're not what we thought they were so that they can disparage us.

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

We put a whooping on the big bad SEC last fall n we”ll do it again this year

 

[JamesQuall]

We put a whooping on the big bad SEC last fall n we”ll do it again this year

From your lips to God’s ears

 

[caneingville]

Look how they were regarded last season before the season started. Only time all that switched up is once we spank them then all of a sudden it was all they're not what we thought they were so that they can disparage us.

If we beat them again, it will be even worse. The story will be that they were on the road, Lagway is injured, etc., etc. Then they will use his postseason surgery as the reason for them being back and putting him as preseason Heisman and ranking them again.

Always moving the goalposts.

 

[DTP]

Let’s be real, the reason Beck’s 2024 is considered a “down” year was the picks. 12 picks is just too many turnovers. But I watched a lot of Georgia football last year and I often saw a guy trying to do too much because he had to carry the team.

The running game was bad. I don’t mean bad by Georgia standards. I mean bad for a P5 conference team. Skill position talent was nondescript. You could have told me their receivers were actually Georgia Tech’s receivers and I would have believed you.

That left a quarterbacks who probably tried to do too much because nobody else on the offense could be counted on. Remember how Cam’s fumbling was a HUGE issue last offseason? That was a dude desperately trying to force things to happen on a team that didn’t have much else.

9 of Beck’s 12 picks came in three games. Alabama, where he also threw for over 400 yards and three touchdowns. Texas which was a dud game for him and Florida where he threw for over 300 and two touchdowns. So it’s not like he was out there struggling to complete passes. He was probably a bit over aggressive, especially against Bama when they had to come back from a huge deficit and made a few bad decisions. But overall he was generally effective.

Lastly, let’s look at games against ACC opponents Clemson and Georgia Tech. Georgia demolished Clemson in week one and Beck completed 70% for 280 and 2 TDs with 0 picks. Against Georgia Tech, which is the one team that actually made Cam Ward look human, he completed 65% for 297 with 5 TDs and 0 picks. This is a guy who could easily mop the floor with our weekly ACC opponents.

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

Let’s be real, the reason Beck’s 2024 is considered a “down” year was the picks. 12 picks is just too many turnovers. But I watched a lot of Georgia football last year and I often saw a guy trying to do too much because he had to carry the team.

The running game was bad. I don’t mean bad by Georgia standards. I mean bad for a P5 conference team. Skill position talent was nondescript. You could have told me their receivers were actually Georgia Tech’s receivers and I would have believed you.

That left a quarterbacks who probably tried to do too much because nobody else on the offense could be counted on. Remember how Cam’s fumbling was a HUGE issue last offseason? That was a dude desperately trying to force things to happen on a team that didn’t have much else.

9 of Beck’s 12 picks came in three games. Alabama, where he also threw for over 400 yards and three touchdowns. Texas which was a dud game for him and Florida where he threw for over 300 and two touchdowns. So it’s not like he was out there struggling to complete passes. He was probably a bit over aggressive, especially against Bama when they had to come back from a huge deficit and made a few bad decisions. But overall he was generally effective.

Lastly, let’s look at games against ACC opponents Clemson and Georgia Tech. Georgia demolished Clemson in week one and Beck completed 70% for 280 and 2 TDs with 0 picks. Against Georgia Tech, which is the one team that actually made Cam Ward look human, he completed 65% for 297 with 5 TDs and 0 picks. This is a guy who could easily mop the floor with our weekly ACC opponents.

We got posters who think its blasphemous to suggest he can perform just as good as Cam did here but laud the SEC as the superior conference, where he's already put up good numbers. Interesting Logic..

 

[aelmiami]

Let’s be real, the reason Beck’s 2024 is considered a “down” year was the picks. 12 picks is just too many turnovers. But I watched a lot of Georgia football last year and I often saw a guy trying to do too much because he had to carry the team.

The running game was bad. I don’t mean bad by Georgia standards. I mean bad for a P5 conference team. Skill position talent was nondescript. You could have told me their receivers were actually Georgia Tech’s receivers and I would have believed you.

That left a quarterbacks who probably tried to do too much because nobody else on the offense could be counted on. Remember how Cam’s fumbling was a HUGE issue last offseason? That was a dude desperately trying to force things to happen on a team that didn’t have much else.

9 of Beck’s 12 picks came in three games. Alabama, where he also threw for over 400 yards and three touchdowns. Texas which was a dud game for him and Florida where he threw for over 300 and two touchdowns. So it’s not like he was out there struggling to complete passes. He was probably a bit over aggressive, especially against Bama when they had to come back from a huge deficit and made a few bad decisions. But overall he was generally effective.

Lastly, let’s look at games against ACC opponents Clemson and Georgia Tech. Georgia demolished Clemson in week one and Beck completed 70% for 280 and 2 TDs with 0 picks. Against Georgia Tech, which is the one team that actually made Cam Ward look human, he completed 65% for 297 with 5 TDs and 0 picks. This is a guy who could easily mop the floor with our weekly ACC opponents.

I watched every UGA game outside the cupcakes last season with my brother a UGA fan. In games like Bama, UK, UF, and Texas you could tell he was seeing ghosts and forcing the issue too much.

Bobo is an atrocious OC. He did almost everything in his power to kill Beck and the poor sap he started against ND. Mix in Searles coaching up turnstiles there’s not many QBs who would’ve had major success for them.

If Beck doesn’t start 13 games last year UGA probably goes 8-4 and they miss the SECCG. It’s wild, most UGA fans I know defended Beck with their last breath, blaming the WRs, OL & Bobo. Once he left the narrative flipped. Almost immediately.

 

[FromDeeeeep]

I think that does make a big difference. Bobo is trash but that said, Beck looked fine under Bobo in 23. I dont think Beck is trash and I personally think he should farewell against the clear dip in talent of the ACC. Its ACC chip or bust here. Im just pointing out that those numbers dont tell the full story and reality is that Beck did take a major step back in 24, that isnt some made up narrative.

Bobo is trash but I think everyone comparing Beck’s numbers from 23 and 24 are missing one piece of the puzzle that hasn’t been mentioned.

Beck went from having Sedrick Van Pran, a multi year starter at Center to Jared Wilson. Van Pran was recruited and developed mostly by Matt Luke while Jared Wilson was a Stacey Searles recruit/player. Wilson while he had good pff grades according to draft scouting reports he struggled calling out protection pickups pre snap.

 

[CANESCANES]

How good was Georgia’s sudden-change defense

Carson Beck had 10 turnovers combined in the Florida, Texas and Alabama games that only resulted in 24 points

Please don’t expect that from Miami defense this year, Carson

I’m a huge Carson Beck fan and have been banging the drum that he should be a 1st round pick since we signed him