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Interesting Carson Beck article from David Hale

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bobbydigius said:
What those numbers dont tell you is that Beck had 12 TDs and 12 INTs in conference play. It was 14 and 12 if you want to consider the Clemson game into the equation.
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fair and i'm not a beck apologist ... but how many td's were dropped? of the 30+ drops lets say a sixth of them were for td's ... that puts him up to 17 tds to 12 ints ...
 
caneingville said:
I know, my husband and I both cracked up laughing and then set him straight.

He went to Texas undergrad though, so he’s a Longhorn fan. Maybe all that oil money has skewed his sense of reality. 🤣

As an aside, I once worked with a psychologist who did some grad work in the health care field and told me about a study she worked on. Apparently, a staggeringly high number of doctors are on the spectrum, much, much higher than the regular population. So while they are very book smart, many don’t have the best social skills.
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Can confirm this. My buddy gets calls at all hours of the night….they don’t know how to find a rental car in the lot, they don’t know how to get the hospital (******* google maps maybe?). I was blown away at the total inability of these people to do simple human being tasks.

He got a call once from a doctor who was lost in the hospital. Mind you he just places these dudes, he’s never even been in this building. It was probably on the other side of the country. He said “go ask someone?” And the guy goes “Ok yeah good idea”. What??

Anyway, back to Beck. He’s gonna cook this year. I just hope that arm is 100.0% soon. He needs reps on reps with the receivers, all summer long.
 
caneingville said:
One of my doctors here in Georgia actually quoted 8 million to me last week as the number he heard we paid Beck. (And this doctor did his neurosurgery residency at UM and worked on the Miami Project to Cure Paralysis, so he’s not dumb.)
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You don't have to be dumb or uneducated to be credulous or in over your head on a topic.

Everyone has their blind spots. Physicians specialize for a reason- you should say this next time your hillbilly doc is elbow-deep and asking you to cough.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Can confirm this. My buddy gets calls at all hours of the night….they don’t know how to find a rental car in the lot, they don’t know how to get the hospital (******* google maps maybe?). I was blown away at the total inability of these people to do simple human being tasks.

He got a call once from a doctor who was lost in the hospital. Mind you he just places these dudes, he’s never even been in this building. It was probably on the other side of the country. He said “go ask someone?” And the guy goes “Ok yeah good idea”. What??

Anyway, back to Beck. He’s gonna cook this year. I just hope that arm is 100.0% soon. He needs reps on reps with the receivers, all summer long.
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A lot of them are also just men who get used to having other people do everything for them. I saw this a lot with other attorneys when I worked at firms. It was very annoying. They get used to their assistants and wives and housekeepers doing all the “menial” tasks for them. It’s just weaponized incompetence.

And agree completely. I’ve got a good feeling about him, and my gut hasn’t ever been wrong about the Canes. Not in 45 years. Beck’s gonna be just fine.
 
caneingville said:
See above…Bowers only played in September and October of the 2023 season.
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Played 10/15 games, large enough sample size to measure the effect of him on the offense:

Beck never threw the ball less than 30 times when Bowers was healthy (first seven games). Bowers is out/not healthy but playing and Beck reaches 30 throws in 2/6 games, with Bowers playing in three of them

Not to mention Bowers had his strongest outputs right before he got hurt vs UAB, @ Auburn and vs Kentucky.

The offense was set up around him.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
In 2023, McConkey or Bowers didn't play in 8 of their 12 regular season games.

Both those kids are awesome players, but as usual, reality gets completely rewritten to shape narratives and for some reason it's been twisted to make people think that Beck is an average player who was carried entirely by Bowers and Ladd for the 2023 season.

Again, they only played 4 games together.

Here are Beck's numbers in games without McConkey, Bowers, or both:

21/31 for 294 and 1 TD, 0 INTs in Week 1 (no McConkey)
23/30 for 283 and 2 TDs, 1 INT in Week 2 (no McConkey)
27/35 for 269 and 0 TDs, 0 INT in Week 3 (no McConkey)
22/32 for 338 and 3 TDs, 0 INT in Week 4 (no McConkey)
19/28 for 315 and 2 TDs, 0 INT in Week 8 (no Bowers)
21/32 for 254 and 2 TDs, 0 INTs in Week 9 (no Bowers)
24/30 for 298 and 3 TDs, 0 INTs in Week 11 (no McConkey)
13/20 for 175 and 1 TD, 1 INT in Week 12 (no McConkey or Bowers)

One subpar game, last game of the regular season against GT. The rest of the year, he was pretty ******* good. In 8 of the 12 regular season games, one of the 2 best WRs didn't play. The difference, IMO, was the running game in 2023 vs 2024. Miami should be able to run the ball very effectively in 2025 for Beck.
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Everyone is talking about the recieves dropping the ball but I think the bigger problem was the running game was horrible last year
 
DMoney said:
Link to the full article below, which has a bunch of cool notes (Bain on Beck, UGA staff sources telling Hale they didn't want to lose Beck). Below is a quick stat analysis which matches the eye test:

What if I told you one of these QBs is getting love as a potential No. 1 draft pick for 2026 and the other is coming off a "down year"?

QB A: 82.3 QBR, 28 TD passes, 12 INTs, 64.7% completions, 7.78 yards per attempt
QB B: 79.1 QBR, 29 TD passes, 12 INTs, 64.2% completions, 7.72 yards per attempt

So, who's the hot shot and who's spiraling downward? QB B is LSU's Nussmeier, who's a favorite in the way-too-early mock drafts. QB A is Miami's Beck, who was supposed to be a possible No. 1 pick until his 2024 performance drew heavy criticism.

OK, one more.

QB A: 72% completions, 9.45 yards per pass, 24 touchdown passes, 3,941 passing yards
QB B: 73% completions, 8.74 yards per pass, 29 touchdown passes, 3,917 passing yards

QB B looks a tick better, right? Well, QB A is Beck's 2023 season at Georgia, when he was lauded as one of the nation's best. QB B is Beck's 2024 season at Georgia, if you adjust his stat line to the same rate of drops and contested catches by his receiving corps in 2024 that he had in 2023.

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CF3 said:
Think the structure of Dawson's offense can account for this. Just need some combination of Slot/TE to win 1 on 1 matchups consistently. Otherwise, guys will be schemed open. There hasn't been a true "A1" outside guy since Ahmmon. Excluding Restrepo, next closest thing is what? Charleston Rambo or Stacy Coley?
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You forgot # 4 Jeff Thomas , he could Strike fear into a Secondary with Speed.
Had WR1 but 1st grade Maturity.
 
HurricanePhilly said:
Ill say it again...if Beck is 80% of Cam and our Defense is just average we are at worst the same team as last year...but in all likelihood better.

And I think that is going to be relatively easy. Esp considering our OL should be top 10 and we will be able to pound on some teams when needed...esp late in closer games.
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Stop 🛑 ✋ Comparing Cam Ward & Carson Beck. They are not The same type of QB. Is like Comparing Vinny Testeverde with Steve Walsh.
They have there Strength & Weakness
With the ability to To Lead a Certain way.

Beck is actually Mobile with Some Straight line Speed once he Accelerates but his Game is his **Arm ,Ball Placement Distribution all over the Field especially tight Windows 🪟 over the Middle & pushing the Ball Deep on a Rope.
 
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Juanmanuel V said:
Stop 🛑 ✋ Comparing Cam Ward & Carson Beck. They are not The same type of QB. Is like Comparing Vinny Testeverde with Steve Walsh.
They have there Strength & Weakness
With the ability to To Lead a Certain way.

Beck is actually Mobile with Some Straight line Speed once he Accelerates but his Game is his **Arm ,Ball Placement Distribution all over the Field especially tight Windows 🪟 over the Middle & pushing the Ball Deep on a Rope.
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not saying he is Cam Ward...Im eluding to if he gives us 80% of what Ward did (on field play).

Just keep him upright and we should be fine.
 
Best OL since the 2021 season. Not as good as that OL, but a smidge better than the 2002 OL. They and Dawson will keep Beck upright.
 
Go back and look at our offense during the first half of the bowl game. Trader and Lofton couldn’t be contained. Fletcher was rolling over people (just don’t fumble!). Cam did Cam things at times. But for the most part our OL, WRs and RBs made it easy for him. There was one time where he literally put down his arm and just stood there because no one could get to him. Just an incredible moment of total OL domination.

I want a seasoned vet WR1 as much as anyone. It was a failure not getting one. But I will be shocked if Lawson struggles to produce points at will with this offense.Maybe not historic. But we’ll still be a Top 10 offense. Pair that with a pulse on the other side of the ball and we’re fuccin.
 
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