Indiana cheating ?

[QuattroCane]

the IU pick 6 was also reminiscent of Scott’s pick 6- just film study and tendencies. They probably saw Moore goes to that particular route a lot on 1st down early in games. Not cheating, just smart film study. RB knocking ball out of Moores hand was bad luck. Thats 14 pts. Then blocked punt due to bad snap effectively handed IU a 21 pt lead. Oregon is a mentally soft team and folded. No magic required. Without those self inflicted wounds, game likely ends by around the same score as the 1st time around, probably 35-20. Which is also the likely score between Ole **** and UM if Miami doesn’t drop 4 INTs.

People dont want to watch the actual games. Talking heads still look at Miami as the team that lost to Louisville and SMU. That’s fine. Make IU a 14 pt favorite.

Those are all very good points. You have to admit, though them going from absolute garbage to utter dominance for two straight years now, bucking every analytical analysis/trend there is cause to raise an eyebrow or two.

 

[PIPO]

Dawson inserts those ill-timed trick play calls into the game flow in order to mess up IU's algorithm. He's playing the long game

That MF….

I wished they would’ve stopped the game and Irvin would’ve taken off his belt when he decided to go MaliCat on that 3rd & 2 after we had just stuffed the ball up their *** with Brown and Fletcher (no pause):

 

[CaneMutiny06]

People dont want to watch the actual games. Talking heads still look at Miami as the team that lost to Louisville and SMU. That’s fine. Make IU a 14 pt favorite.

Bingo. They scoreboard/hilight watch. It’s the typical lazy modern way.

 

[pacusmc]

the guy has won everywhere he's been. he has a blueprint in the portal. nothin would surprise me but did they cheat by making Dante moore scared to death? OSU slaughtered Oregon last year. Bama is trash and was blown out by UGA. if it was an SEC team, everyone would be saying how amazing it is.
IU didn't have the toughest schedule.to me, they just seem disciplined and ready.

I believe, bama’s coach also has a ridiculous record winning everywhere. But he wasn’t destroying people at Washington and look at bama now.
I’m sorry, but a coach didn’t just wake up and find some secret evaluation and development sauce like that.

It’s one thing to point at Mendoza and say maybe he’s the next tom Brady or some sht. But he doesn’t play d tackle.

That defense is ridiculous and I don’t think anybody can name one dude on it.

Texas techs dline has talent all over the place and they couldn’t stop Oregon but they also couldn’t score so there’s that.
But nobody thought that bama and Oregon we’re gonna get demolished by a bunch of 2 and 3 stars on both sides to the point that they look like g 5 school.

There are Cinderella stories all the time. But Cinderellas don’t destroy everything they come across like that.

 

[Unsider]

FWIW…

 

[Canesmia01]

Trends. You find the trends/habits - you can more successfully anticipate an opponent's likely move.

In my past, I was the tracker of men. I'd note that when stepping over a log/rock - they'd always use the same foot first.

An obstacle in the middle of a trail, they'd take one side or the other. Their walking speed in dense vegetation and how it changed in broken country. How often they'd break, how they'd stop with care in certain terrain. How disciplined was he in his traversing.

Soon enough, I could break out my map and determine their destination - and on one occasion sped along a parallel track - and was waiting for him.

AI is a tool. It reads - patterns. Probabilities - but based on massive data points. Quickly.

You embrace and use it - or you draw a play out of a bucket and take your chances. But know this - everyone has habits they don't even realize. You use the same streets to the same destinations, you go to bed generally at the same time, your car is parked repetitively - your eating habits are similarly timed - any one of us would be an easy task for a canny sniper.

Read the tells. Film study does this - but AI does it accurately and quickly.

This post was spit directly out of ChatGPT

 

[TexasCane90]

No. The CB plays off on Match 3 and jumps an out that Moore locked in on AND threw behind the receiver. There was a backside corner route running wide open.

Teams are just playing dumb football and people can't comprehend that a well coached team is beating them. They don't have a beat on plays, they plainly don't allow the big play.

Man I remember when people said harbaugh was just too much with his NFL experience and NFL style coaching staff. He finally got his players and they were rolling….

 

[Bender]

Man I remember when people said harbaugh was just too much with his NFL experience and NFL style coaching staff. He finally got his players and they were rolling….

Chargers are one of the most injured football teams and they made the playoffs.

Harbaugh is a good coach. People can say whatever they want about him, he's very knowledgeable.

 

[301cane]

 

[Cribby]

This is true. This is where Mongo being a caveman pays off. I mean run the ball and stop the run and contain and we win.

I’ve seen his gameplan’s, they’re etched on tablets like the Ten Commandments. Mario is playing chess not checkers

 

[Artist Formerly Known As]

I don’t want Miami fans, media, etc putting much into this.

If non affiliated media and/or fans want to make a story out of it, let them.

 

[caneworld]

This is catching fire pretty quick... it might be interesting to see what happens over the next couple of days ... if true, it will blow up the CFP.. with the amount of money in the sport now

 

[caneworld]

Miami players got healthy because Dana White uses peptides...You heard it on CIS first...

Guidry used flouride... now all of it's starting to make sense

 

[flips]

Another thing to consider: Since Lanning took over at Oregon they have played 3 teams twice in a season and they have lost the rematch all 3 times by a combined score of 126-74. The first game the combined score was 97-85 in their opponent's favor. So, they go from -4 p/g scoring margin in game 1 to -17.3 in the rematch. Yikes.

Wouldnt surprise me if IU had some kind of unique advantage with technology WRT finding tendencies and scouting that may or may not skirt the rules, but that butt whooping last night was more of an indictment of Lanning & Oregon's prep than "evidence" of Indiana cheating.

 

[section9]

If I were Dawson, I’d assume cheating and take the drive down to Tavernier and cook something up with Jimmy just in case.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

They may be well coached, but Louisville had a more experienced overall roster, a higher composite score, and 15 more portal players than Indiana. Yet the Cardinals are not competing for a national championship.

Indiana also has the smallest overall roster of any of our FBS opponents (83 players).

They have a much better coaching staff than Louisville.

 

[IRememberSchnelly]

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4 touchdowns in an afternoon for Polk High, baby.

 

[caneworld]

Mario needs to go old school Mario, all analog this week, no crumbs on the interwebs. You guys call him a caveman, maybe it pays off for us this time!

But hacking into practice data from the trackers on players and feeding it into an AI type s/w can provide a pretty good gameplan in a matter of minutes... may not be believable but possible .

Their absolute dominance with 3 star players and average assistants really seems suspicious of some sort of advantage

 

[caneworld]

So Dawson just hand writes his play sheet, just laminate it in case of rain (unlike Dan Enos). Problem solved, boots laced.

Or Dawson can have a six pack or two before the game and have fun with the play calling.... which I suspect is what happened in the first half at TAMU

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

They’re not beating teams. They are destroying them and making it look easy.

They didn’t easily destroy Ohio St. or PSU.
**** Iowa got a 4th quarter pick and ran it to the IU 29 with 2:36 to go and the score tied 13-13. They ended up missing an easy FG and then gave up a 50 yd TD that put IU ahead.

Ohio St blew two chances to win. Should have taken the pts when in the 3rd quarter from the IU 5 instead of going for it. Would have been a tied game instead of down 3. And then missing the FG later to tie.

IU doesn’t have a magical luck machine but they certainly have gotten several bounces going their way.

If they had blown the doors of Ohio St, I’d be right with you saying “WTF is going on here.” Instead I see a well coached team that just makes fewer mistakes than its opponent. And when dealing with college kids that tend to do dumb things like false starts or late hits, that’s usually all the edge they need.

I mean you just need to watch Miami football for the last 20 years to see what happens when a vastly more talented team loses to a far less talented opponent due to self inflicted penalties. My guess is the talent difference between Middle Tennessee state and UM is a lot bigger than the talent difference between Oregon and Indiana. And MTSU blew the doors off UM in our own stadium.

And I know the counter argument is that those types of things might happen a couple times but not for 13 games. it didn’t happen for 13 games. IU feasted on G5 opponents and B1G floormats the bulk of the season, with the remainder being games where they had comparable talent (Iowa , Illinois) and maybe 3 opponents where they had a real talent disadvantage (OSU, Bama, Oregon. Not counting coachless PSU).

Indiana crushed Illinois- and at first glance it looks suspicious but then you see it was like the Ducks game- Illinois gave up a blocked punt TD, 4 sacks, multiple 30+ yard pass plays in the FIRST HALF and was down 35-10 at half time. They gave up. No cheating necessary.

Then they played Iowa and trailed in the 4th quarter. Traded INTs and then a Missed IOwa FG gave Indiana the chance to take the lead. No cheating needed there.

Then there was the 10 pt win against overrated Oregon. Oregon gets a pick 6 to tie it 20 all in the 4th quarter (even IU makes mistakes). Indiana engineers a 12 play 75 yd drive to take a TD lead. Cheating? Not any more than Beck driving Miami down the field against Ole ****. Moore is a vastly overrated QB, he then throws a pick on the next possession and IU closes it out. Again I don’t see any cheating required. Good coaching and discipline wins that game.

IU then plays a bunch of b1g tomato cans to close out the season until the B1G championship game. But in that run they still have to hang on by their fingernails to beat a PSU team without a HC. PSU ran for 118 yards on the IU defense.

We already talked about OSU and how OSU blew it. Bama didn’t deserve to be in the playoffs and we know all about the SEC living off bloated reputation. Oregon was another self destruction.

In the box score and on paper it all looks suspicious. But when you break down the games, I don’t see anything odd other than getting some lucky breaks like missed FGs and fumbles bouncing right back into their hands. That said- based on the missed FGs and lucky bounces- I can’t rule out the possibility they put magnets in the football.