In Today's Era, When Is The Right Time To Fire Your Head Corch?

[TexasCane90]

When you already have your back channeled next HC lined up

If your firing someone like Franklin yeah you better have the next dude who is clearly better locked up…

If your spiraling and you can see the coaching staff is mailing it in to finish the season I’d say right at the halfway mark… not having to worry about losing the current roster immediately to the portal

 

[QuattroCane]

Not to hijack, but IMO PSU screwed up in a serious way firing Franklin. He clearly has his limitations, but holy fack what a knee-jerk reaction.

It's almost like they wanted to get rid of him and knew if they didn't do it after the NW loss, he may win 9 games and then you "can't" fire him.

 

[L A M P]

To piggyback being Ricky Bobby week....

 

[MedleyCane]

Depends.

If you’re paying a big buyout and you have a rotten coach like Norvelll that no one wants, doesn’t matter. You can only afford a G5 start ups at that point.

In PSU’s case, earlier the better in hopes there’s a bidding war to offset that buyout.

Norvell is not as undesirable as you assume.
He may not land a P4 HC gig, but he will be coveted as an OC at a big-time program, if he so desires to go that route.

 

[ThomasM]

1. After the first loss.
2. After a close win.
3. After the first questionable coaching decision.

After trailing the first time.

 

[canadianhurricane]

I remember an AD having a quote similar to " Anything you have to be eventually, should be done immediately"

To me, if your deciding to move on, as soon as possible is the best approach. Or you end up like Billy at UF where he seems to do just enough, towards the end of the season, to make it a tough decision.

Id say there are two major factors:

Do you have someone else in mind?
Can you afford it?

 

[OrangeSlidez]

Norvell is not as undesirable as you assume.
He may not land a P4 HC gig, but he will be coveted as an OC at a big-time program, if he so desires to go that route.

Thats peanuts to his 59 mil buyout. would bring it down to low 50 million

 

[Hold My Beer]

Firing James Frankin — and all that goe$ with it — to hire middling Matt Rhule away from Nebraska for another ridiculous sum of money has maybe a 5% chance of working out in Penn State’s favor

 

[OldhamA]

Paraphrasing Josh Pate here, but he likes to say (and I know it's not his saying) "if you've got to do something eventually, you've got to do it immediately".

I think that's especially true in this modern College football world with its Transfer Portals, NIL and players not having to sit out anymore.

So on the one hand fair play to Penn St from moving on from Franklin immediately IF they thought that's what they'd have to do to reach the next level.

Personally I think it's a kneejerk reaction to a couple of bad losses -and, apparently, due to his personality (he's a bit of a ****head they say).

The AD had better have been planning this move for a while though or he'll quickly find himself sat at home unemployed too - with nowhere near the same buyout.

 

[kanecrazed]

Definitely by mid season so you can't start drawing interest/back channeling.

 

[QuattroCane]

Norvell is not as undesirable as you assume.
He may not land a P4 HC gig, but he will be coveted as an OC at a big-time program, if he so desires to go that route.

Excuse me? So, is he saving the playbook for later in the season?

 

[DubCaliCane]

there is no good time because of the early signing period and transfer portal dates.

It wouldn’t shock me to see a coach or two leave teams before the season ends to join new teams.

They’ll be the same ones who complain about NIL and the transfer portal too

 

[NCCanefan]

I don't know. I do know 6 games after you went to the final four in the college football playoff is not the right time.

Maybe right after your 25th game against a top 10 team and you won 8% of them?

 

[The canesman]

Obviously fire right away. These big schools hand out 50 million dollar buy outs like it’s nothing.

 

[ddann]

After trailing the first time.

That’s a little extreme, don’t you think?

I would adjust that to say “after trailing for the first time for at least 30 seconds of game time.”

For example, if the other team takes the lead, but then your team immediately returns the ensuing kickoff for a TD to retake the lead, then the head coach can stay on the sideline. Let’s be reasonable here.

 

[Golsen82]

1. After the first loss.
2. After a close win.
3. After the first questionable coaching decision.

Ooooo Mario clock been ticking

 

[flips]

Maybe right after your 25th game against a top 10 team and you won 8% of them?

That's not what PSU did though.

 

[CaneFanWNY]

If they lose the coin toss, they should lose their job IMO IYAM. Setting a bad precedent for the team by losing before the game even kicks off

Regarding Billy Napier and Mike Norvell to this question though? Never, Billy just needs more time and norvell hasn’t even brought his own players into his system yet, so he also needs more time

 

[miamicanephins]

Ooooo Mario clock been ticking

true dat

He's gotta know the planes stay gassed and all the pilots have beepers and with the CIS frequent flier discount, an arial assault begins with a phone call.

 

[Empirical Cane]

true dat

He's gotta know the planes stay gassed and all the pilots have beepers and with the CIS frequent flier discount, an arial assault begins with a phone call.

Get the font outta here with that, meng!