IMO The Offense Issues Beyond OL

[skyman]

We cant even add motion to create matchups? You guys are too kind...

 

[ATL-BRAD]

I disagree with all of this. You can't do jack with below average line play and we are well below average. McDermott gave up two sacks and had three penalties yesterday by himself. We virtually have to go to a short passing game all the time. Which does not open up the Run game at all. This is why we struggle early in games. And can't run the ball too late.

 

[Gransapo]

Kaaya misses too many open receivers both in his reads and with his throws.

 

[canesthing3]

I find it strange that posters love to rail on Kaaya and Richt all day everyday but why do most of you guys obsolve the OL of being terrible? Too many good feelings going on around here, needed ANOTHER thread bashing our playcalling and players? I feel like the playcalling has gotten better since 2nd half of ND and have played much better but that's not enough. We should scrap it all and start running something that will excite the fans. WTF. I just want to win, don't care how we get there. I'm weird like that.

 

[Dawgcane]

Take a look at what Pitt does. They confuse the **** out of defenses with all their movement and deception. They've taken crappy overall offensive talent and fashioned a dynamic offense with it. Plug our dudes into that offense, and they'd look like world beaters.

Remind me what the Canes score was against Pitt?

 

[mydas77]

Miami sure seemed confused by Pitt's Jet sweep offense. Lol

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[MIATL]

Take a look at what Pitt does. They confuse the **** out of defenses with all their movement and deception. They've taken crappy overall offensive talent and fashioned a dynamic offense with it. Plug our dudes into that offense, and they'd look like world beaters.

Remind me what the Canes score was against Pitt?

I agree with the premise of your post, which is that Pitt offense wasn't all that difficult for the Miami D to stop.

But the premise of the quoted post is that their offense would be harder to stop if they had Miami "talent".

They average more points and yards than Miami, so their O is legit. And this is Canada's first year as their OC.

 

[DiegoCane]

Take a look at what Pitt does. They confuse the **** out of defenses with all their movement and deception. They've taken crappy overall offensive talent and fashioned a dynamic offense with it. Plug our dudes into that offense, and they'd look like world beaters.

Remind me what the Canes score was against Pitt?

Pitt averages 40 ppg vs Power 5 opponents
Miami averages 28 ppg vs Power 5 opponents.

Pitt doesn't have a weapon on the outside close to Coley, Richards, Njoku and their QB is a Tennessee reject.

 

[nycane]

This Offense doesn't have time to develop plays of the fashion which we all would like to see more of...

It's the combination of Kaaya being an incredibly slow read & the line not being able to give enough time.

It's mostly on Kaaya though, even when he gets all day to throw back there if his primary isn't open, that mutha****a is going down.

He'll take a sack with a 7sec clean pocket if he can't hit his first read, so Richt adjusted the Offense to make things a lot easier & quicker for Brad.

We're running mostly out of the gun, and we've shortened up the route combinations, because it's what makes Kaaya more comfortable.

We running that back shoulder all day with Richards because it's a very easy timing route & rhythm throw, plus it's an easy 7-9 yards to keep us on short yardage downs, because 3rd & anything longer than 5-6yds it's almost a guarantee Kaaya's gonna overthrow or get sacked.

The offense isn't pretty, but it's effective & we're moving the ball, so f*ck it I'll take it... The offense y'all are looking for isn't gonna happen with Kaaya at QB, we can't be that creative with him at the helm.

you are very on point. alot of fans dont realize how mediocre kaaya is. my friend is an FSU fan and said "how do u guys watch that kid? he floats every pass. he constantly throws to the wrong guys, and he cant make a 2nd read. if his 1st read is bad, he freezes."

 

[DiegoCane]

The lack of deception/creativity and simplistic nature of our offense really shows up in the red zone.

Vs Power 5 opponents we are only converting 52% of our red zone opportunities into TDs (13 of 25 opportunities).

Compare that to Pitt who comes in at 83% (31 of 37 opportunities).


Obviously this will improve with better OL talent. That said if we continue to be this simplistic on offense we will continue to struggle against good defenses. Hopefully Richt will add more wrinkles as he develops as an OC.

 

[D_G87]

We beat Pitt by 30 but yeah great offense

Take a look at what Pitt does. They confuse the **** out of defenses with all their movement and deception. They've taken crappy overall offensive talent and fashioned a dynamic offense with it. Plug our dudes into that offense, and they'd look like world beaters.

 

[D_G87]

One small thing I notice on both Off and Def is our substitutions. There was multiple times on 3rd down when Njoku and Coley weren't in the game. I just don't understand having Dayall in instead of Coley on the most important down in football. Also on defense Joe Jack made a great play on 2nd down and gets taken out on 3rd and long where he can rush which is his strength. We mass sub on defense way too much IMO.

 

[Cityboy4life82]

The problem with the offense is very simple. UM needs to recruit better athletes. Let's talk about the vertical routes everyone is complaining about. These are the same routes that Art Briles made famous at Baylor. The difference is that Baylor had 4.3 forty athletes running those routes.

UM's 4 wideout package consists of Lewis, Njoku, Coley and Richardson or Beerios, Coley, Lewis and Richardson. If UM had Mullens, Richardson, Coley and Sam Bruce running those routes the outcome would be totally different because all those players can flat out fly. The problem is that no one fears our wideouts. It is very easy for a defense to shadow Coley and Richardson because they know Lewis and Berrios pose little to no threat.

It is no secret that we only target two receivers. Replace Berrios and Lewis with Sam Bruce and Mullins and defenses are forced to defend them because on those vertical routes Bruce and Mullins would get over the top of the defense.

 

[Cash]

This offense is about as exciting as the first round of the Chinese Slam Dunk Championships. The offense I've seen this season lacks several essential components that are needed to succeed against top teams.

1. Diversity! This offense is too simple to read, lack play diversity, simplistic formations, no motion and too many straight routes.

2, Pace! The pace is too slow, allowing the defense a chance to get set, call sets and adjust calls. Defensive players have time to figure out who and what they should be doing.

3. Play Calling! Too slow! Main reason the pace is too slow, besides design. When in doubt throw a half back screen. (Please stop trying to throw a back shoulder fade)

4. Receiver routes! These straight routes won't confuse or cross up a defense or defender. No crossing, rub or motion plays to confuse defenders. We need to hire a OC or offensive consultant that can add diversity to the offense and increase the pace.

Lmao op you know we ran a few rub routes against NC State right? We run plenty of crossing routes.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Take a look at what Pitt does. They confuse the **** out of defenses with all their movement and deception. They've taken crappy overall offensive talent and fashioned a dynamic offense with it. Plug our dudes into that offense, and they'd look like world beaters.

Remind me what the Canes score was against Pitt?

Pitt averages 40 ppg vs Power 5 opponents
Miami averages 28 ppg vs Power 5 opponents.

Pitt doesn't have a weapon on the outside close to Coley, Richards, Njoku and their QB is a Tennessee reject.

I actually think Peterman's pretty good. He put up nice numbers last year before Canada got there.

He should play on Sundays.


My take on Richt is that he's an average OC. Sure I'd love an elite OC, but it is what it is. None of the top teams really have explosive offenses with a mediocre pocket passer anyway.

 

[DiegoCane]

Take a look at what Pitt does. They confuse the **** out of defenses with all their movement and deception. They've taken crappy overall offensive talent and fashioned a dynamic offense with it. Plug our dudes into that offense, and they'd look like world beaters.

Remind me what the Canes score was against Pitt?

Pitt averages 40 ppg vs Power 5 opponents
Miami averages 28 ppg vs Power 5 opponents.

Pitt doesn't have a weapon on the outside close to Coley, Richards, Njoku and their QB is a Tennessee reject.

I actually think Peterman's pretty good. He put up nice numbers last year before Canada got there.

He should play on Sundays.


My take on Richt is that he's an average OC. Sure I'd love an elite OC, but it is what it is. None of the top teams really have explosive offenses with a mediocre pocket passer anyway.

Kaaya had a better passer rating his FR and SO year then Peterman had as a JR.

But now Peterman is pretty good and Kaaya is a mediocre pocket passer. Gotcha

 

[Canezum5]

This offense is about as exciting as the first round of the Chinese Slam Dunk Championships. The offense I've seen this season lacks several essential components that are needed to succeed against top teams.

1. Diversity! This offense is too simple to read, lack play diversity, simplistic formations, no motion and too many straight routes.

2, Pace! The pace is too slow, allowing the defense a chance to get set, call sets and adjust calls. Defensive players have time to figure out who and what they should be doing.

3. Play Calling! Too slow! Main reason the pace is too slow, besides design. When in doubt throw a half back screen. (Please stop trying to throw a back shoulder fade)

4. Receiver routes! These straight routes won't confuse or cross up a defense or defender. No crossing, rub or motion plays to confuse defenders. We need to hire a OC or offensive consultant that can add diversity to the offense and increase the pace.

Lmao op you know we ran a few rub routes against NC State right? We run plenty of crossing routes.

cash
This guy is clueless af.

Liberty city has the best post in this thread.

Kaaya is shell shocked.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Take a look at what Pitt does. They confuse the **** out of defenses with all their movement and deception. They've taken crappy overall offensive talent and fashioned a dynamic offense with it. Plug our dudes into that offense, and they'd look like world beaters.

Remind me what the Canes score was against Pitt?

Pitt averages 40 ppg vs Power 5 opponents
Miami averages 28 ppg vs Power 5 opponents.

Pitt doesn't have a weapon on the outside close to Coley, Richards, Njoku and their QB is a Tennessee reject.

I actually think Peterman's pretty good. He put up nice numbers last year before Canada got there.

He should play on Sundays.


My take on Richt is that he's an average OC. Sure I'd love an elite OC, but it is what it is. None of the top teams really have explosive offenses with a mediocre pocket passer anyway.

Kaaya had a better passer rating his FR and SO year then Peterman had as a JR.

But now Peterman is pretty good and Kaaya is a mediocre pocket passer. Gotcha

I say he's pretty good. You say he's a reject.

I guess we'll see. I think he'll get drafted.

 

[DiegoCane]

Remind me what the Canes score was against Pitt?

Pitt averages 40 ppg vs Power 5 opponents
Miami averages 28 ppg vs Power 5 opponents.

Pitt doesn't have a weapon on the outside close to Coley, Richards, Njoku and their QB is a Tennessee reject.

I actually think Peterman's pretty good. He put up nice numbers last year before Canada got there.

He should play on Sundays.


My take on Richt is that he's an average OC. Sure I'd love an elite OC, but it is what it is. None of the top teams really have explosive offenses with a mediocre pocket passer anyway.

Kaaya had a better passer rating his FR and SO year then Peterman had as a JR.

But now Peterman is pretty good and Kaaya is a mediocre pocket passer. Gotcha

I say he's pretty good. You say he's a reject.

I guess we'll see. I think he'll get drafted.

I said a Tennessee reject which is a fact bc he couldn't start there

 

[caneaddict]

Take a look at what Pitt does. They confuse the **** out of defenses with all their movement and deception. They've taken crappy overall offensive talent and fashioned a dynamic offense with it. Plug our dudes into that offense, and they'd look like world beaters.

wait till the maple leaf grabs Manny Diaz and his gang of rejects, someones putting up a 50 spot in that game...oops