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Imbalance of Power in College football

warpigs58 said:
Most universities are not going to put the financial resources into football that Bama, Clemson, & OSU do.

College football is dying a slow death, especially out West. PAC-12 will fold eventually.
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It will be tied to player health and inequitable dedication of resources to football vs education.
 
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The things that the NFL tries to regulate: filming of sidelines, stealing signals, etc., a handful of college football teams, the ones that have the budget and staff, get to do with impunity.

The problem with playing Bama (and Clemson, and a handful of other schools) is that they have the manpower to research, scout, and break you down to the point where they basically know what is coming.

That is the truth about where the sport is at. It supercedes recruiting, facilities, and everything else.

That is why the sport is broken.
 
SevenNSeven said:
The money IS the major issue.

There are a couple of schools (think Michigan, Texas) where the return on investment has been limited, but mostly, the successful teams are the ones with the most money to throw around. It wasn't always that way, because the NCAA used to strive for the perception of amateurism. But that's gone now, and the NCAA doesn't run college football, ESPN and the major conferences do. The NCAA just cashes checks and doesn't rock the boat.

To think otherwise is silly. Fans like to criticize the Athletic department, and rightfully so, for its failures of the last two decades, but to imagine that the deck isn't set against the program is asinine.
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And whose fault is it that Miami doesn’t have any money?

We had one of the greatest runs of success in college football history from the 80’s to the early 2000’s.

A competent athletic department would have leveraged that in to big bucks.

We should have Notre Dame or USC money today. We don’t because our BOT are a bunch of drooling retards
 
RightSaidFred said:
And whose fault is it that Miami doesn’t have any money?

We had one of the greatest runs of success in college football history from the 80’s to the early 2000’s.

A competent athletic department would have leveraged that in to big bucks.

We should have Notre Dame or USC money today. We don’t because our BOT are a bunch of drooling retards
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You are wrong, not about how the athletic department squandered the benefits of our early 2000's run of success, but about what we talk about when we say 'Money.'

Between the ACC conference payouts, the Adidas money, licensing, etc, Miami has 'decent' money.

Not $EC money, or Big 10 money unfortunately, but still....

No, where Miami is at a huge disadvantage is in terms of booster money. That booster money has been weaponized now. What used to go to grease the palms of recruits is now going to pay a fired head coach to work in your football building and break down the tendencies of the other team before you play them.

Miami had built in advantages to offset the former, really nothing you can do against the latter. They are completely outclassed in manpower.

The athletic department used to be run like a mom and pop store because of incompetance. Now it's dwarfed by these other programs because the landscape has changed.

To put to analogy, while the program has spent the last two decades f--king around with the carpeting, the ceiling got a lot lower.
 
BigCaneAl said:
Good article out of the LA Times (Other than referring to us as “second tier blue bloods”). Talks about lowering scholarship counts to even the playing field, etc.

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Commentary: Alabama vs. Ohio State another reminder of college football's competitive imbalance

While Ohio State's Sugar Bowl win spared us from another Alabama vs. Clemson game, the College Football Playoff is still lacking interest and parity.
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He didn’t refer to us as a second tier blue blood. He said Miami would be able to sign the second tier blue blood’s recruiting leftovers. So he called us 3rd tier blue bloods.
 
ssvir said:
College Football is now MLB.

A handful of teams spend 2-5x what everyone else spends on players, facilities, support staff, scouts, etc and while occasionally a team catches lightning in a bottle that lasts a season or two by being smarter/lucky, in the end the same 4 teams start the season competing for a championship and everyone else is a tier below.
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Close.

Imagine MLB if, instead of spending payroll on players, the richest teams would be guaranteed the best players, and could spend all their money on coaching staffs, scouting, sign stealing, etc..

That's college football.
 
RightSaidFred said:
And whose fault is it that Miami doesn’t have any money?

We had one of the greatest runs of success in college football history from the 80’s to the early 2000’s.

A competent athletic department would have leveraged that in to big bucks.

We should have Notre Dame or USC money today. We don’t because our BOT are a bunch of drooling retards
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Money hasn’t been the issue for years. The issue is decision making.
 
SevenNSeven said:
You are wrong, not about how the athletic department squandered the benefits of our early 2000's run of success, but about what we talk about when we say 'Money.'

Between the ACC conference payouts, the Adidas money, licensing, etc, Miami has 'decent' money.

Not $EC money, or Big 10 money unfortunately, but still....

No, where Miami is at a huge disadvantage is in terms of booster money. That booster money has been weaponized now. What used to go to grease the palms of recruits is now going to pay a fired head coach to work in your football building and break down the tendencies of the other team before you play them.

Miami had built in advantages to offset the former, really nothing you can do against the latter. They are completely outclassed in manpower.

The athletic department used to be run like a mom and pop store because of incompetance. Now it's dwarfed by these other programs because the landscape has changed.

To put to analogy, while the program has spent the last two decades f--king around with the carpeting, the ceiling got a lot lower.
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So get more boosters.

When Miami sends an incompetent like Blake James out to the world to ask for donations, it shows they're not even trying. They send a no-experience idiot out there, and they expect people to fork over money? Why, exactly, would anyone with means agree to throw their money into a black hole?

What actions has the University of Miami ever taken that would motivate anyone to donate big bucks, or give them confidence that their money would be spent well?

In the 80's, they refused to build an on-campus stadium when they had the chance and when the head coach was asking for it.

In the 2000's, they were complicit in tearing down the Orange Bowl, and put us in this joke rent-a-stadium we're in today.

They refused to pay Butch Davis what he was worth, and, outside of Mark Richt, every coach they have hired since then has been either a first-timer or a G5 lightweight.

They join the ACC at the height of our success, when we were the biggest brand in football and could have joined any conference we wanted. What do they do? They pick the most pathetic joke of a conference available.

Our AD's have all been first-timers.

We refuse to invest in assistants and, like you mention, staff and analysts. Our recruiting budget is a joke.

They extend failed head coaches and refuse to rectify mistakes, dragging their feet way too long to fire obviously failed hires.

I could go on. But I think my point is made.
 
More important than money Is booster network money, and distribution operation. Reducing the scholarships diminishes that some. Maybe makes that 20% less impactful. Top teams will still get the 5 stars.
 
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JgDaCane said:
Theres 3 teams. Ohio State Alabama & Clemson. That's it. It's become the most boring sport in the world.
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Was it boring when it was us, FSU, OU and basically Nebraska?

I suspect I know your answer.

Would any of us be complaining how boring it is if we were in the elite group?

The one thing I do find boring is the bowl tie ins with the conferences.
 
SayWhat said:
Was it boring when it was us, FSU, OU and basically Nebraska?

I suspect I know your answer.

Would any of us be complaining how boring it is if we were in the elite group?

The one thing I do find boring is the bowl tie ins with the conferences.
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No absolutely not, my **** would be filled with blood. I agree.
 
GojiraCane said:
The best NFL analogy is the AFC East. Through a superlative QB who took a lesser contract to remain, a fantastic HC, and very astute roster management the New England Patriots remained on top of the AFC East for two decades. And went to the Super Bowl nearly half of that time period. Now it didn't have an overall effect on the NFL, but I'd argue that it had a definite effect on the other teams in the AFC East. Buffalo, Miami, and New York went through a host of head coaches and GMs, each trying something, anything to catch back up to New England. And each quick trigger move set each team back, to the point where the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins were basically averaging about 4 wins a year each. The Patriots won seventeen out of nineteen AFC East titles, and eleven consecutive. By the late 2010s, each of the fan bases of the other three franchises were likely diminished. What hope is there as a fan of the Bills, Jets, or Dolphins if you know that you cannot compete.

The Crimson Tide has had a similar effect on the SEC. They're so far ahead of the other teams that it's diminishing hope that anyone can ever beat them again. And when extrapolated to all of college football, where the same three or four teams are in the four team playoff every year I can almost guarantee you that within ten to fifteen years time college football will be a niche sports, consisting of two or three dozens teams and enjoyed primarily in Alabama, South Carolina, Texas, and Ohio.
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Agree with some..but Bills and Fins fans went no where. Some of the most die hards in the nfl. Also during there long *** run my fins actually werent that bad against them

I swear my entire family...(my dad has double digit siblings..every last one are die hard dolphins) watches every dolphins game like its the super bowl. In seasons where we won 1-2 games...same sh*t.
 
GojiraCane said:
What I fear will happen with 70 person scholarships is that an Alabama will direct NUMEROUS players to unofficially affiliated Group of 5 schools and use them as farm teams until they are ready to call up the selected players. That’s one way around the limit, and it’s easy to envision.
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If it gets to that extent there is zero reason to watch CFB again.
 
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caneworld said:
Expand playoffs... otherwise there is a built in incumbent recruiting advantage
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Actually you are going to see the demise of playoffs. After watching Justin Fields almost lose his NFL career, who in their right mind is going to play any "extra" games?? Nothing to be gained and all to be lost.
 
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