Imbalance of Power in College football

[Consigliere]

IMO your points have ZERO to do with us being down...or why Bama Is King of CFB.

The top teams have made their football program into BIG MONEY operations — spending big and making big money.

Everyone else can’t keep up and keep replaying the “amateur student athlete” model of CFB that disappeared in the 90’s.

The top teams are essentially NFL-lite teams now.

...Miami and everyone else are just target practice for them.

See my post here

We care more than UM board and administration about football program

Unfortunately, until the school cares like we do about the program, they will take their ACC $ and be content with 8 or 9 win seasons. Those schools who prioritize football spend and simply value it more than rest of country. Better coaches, better facilities, etc. We got very lucky in the past...

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[Canesq]

Imagine if in the NFL KC (Bama), Pittsburgh (OSU), Seattle (Clemson) all had 5-10 first round picks every year and everyone else had one how is a great head coach and coaching staff overcome that to be a perennial contender and not a once every three years team?

The reason why some nfl teams struggle (eg Washington) is because they have poor ownership and poor GM/head coach hires.

But all teams have a generally equal resource allocation. There are coach limitations a salary and roster rules.

That’s why the key in the NFL is the trilogy: great owner that stays in his lane, great GM that hits on his high round picks and finds diamonds in the rough and a great head coach that has a great system and is a great ceo. Once that team gets a franchise qb they will always be in contention.

Unless college football implements the nfl rules to make sure all teams have equal resources, teams like Bama, Inc. will always thrive no matter what minor changes are made in the name of “competitive balance”.

 

[Deleted member 23667]

Good article out of the LA Times (Other than referring to us as “second tier blue bloods”). Talks about lowering scholarship counts to even the playing field, etc.

Commentary: Alabama vs. Ohio State another reminder of college football's competitive imbalance

While Ohio State's Sugar Bowl win spared us from another Alabama vs. Clemson game, the College Football Playoff is still lacking interest and parity.

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You read it wrong... As per the article we are lower than the second-tier blue bloods . As per the article we're one of the programs that would be benefit from the proposed scholarship reduction. The author obviously doesn't know that we pull in Top 10 classes every year.

Lowering it again by 10 would amount to a dozen or so players each year that would not go to Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and LSU that could end up at Florida, Florida State, Michigan or Auburn. The trickle-down effect would mean that a dozen or so players that would have gone to one of those second-tier blue bloods then end up at Tennessee, Miami, Nebraska or Texas A&M, and so on.

 

[GojiraCane]

Those on top will always have structural advantages. The job: overcome it by any means necessary.

The same structural imbalance extends into enforcement. SMU and the University of Mississippi tried any means necessary to challenge the status quo, and they were punished. Miami committed relatively minor infractions and the NCAA was angling for a death penalty. Meanwhile those at the top can give out money and lease cars (the HC of Alabama is literally leasing cars to his players) without even a comment.

 

[GojiraCane]

You read it wrong... As per the article we are lower than the second-tier blue bloods . As per the article we're one of the programs that would be benefit from the proposed scholarship reduction. The author obviously doesn't know that we pull in Top 10 classes every year.

We haven't had Top 10 classes every year. We've had three or four since 2008.

 

[GojiraCane]

Imagine if in the NFL KC (Bama), Pittsburgh (OSU), Seattle (Clemson) all had 5-10 first round picks every year and everyone else had one how is a great head coach and coaching staff overcome that to be a perennial contender and not a once every three years team?

The reason why some nfl teams struggle (eg Washington) is because they have poor ownership and poor GM/head coach hires.

But all teams have a generally equal resource allocation. There are coach limitations a salary and roster rules.

That’s why the key in the NFL is the trilogy: great owner that stays in his lane, great GM that hits on his high round picks and finds diamonds in the rough and a great head coach that has a great system and is a great ceo. Once that team gets a franchise qb they will always be in contention.

Unless college football implements the nfl rules to make sure all teams have equal resources, teams like Bama, Inc. will always thrive no matter what minor changes are made in the name of “competitive balance”.

The best NFL analogy is the AFC East. Through a superlative QB who took a lesser contract to remain, a fantastic HC, and very astute roster management the New England Patriots remained on top of the AFC East for two decades. And went to the Super Bowl nearly half of that time period. Now it didn't have an overall effect on the NFL, but I'd argue that it had a definite effect on the other teams in the AFC East. Buffalo, Miami, and New York went through a host of head coaches and GMs, each trying something, anything to catch back up to New England. And each quick trigger move set each team back, to the point where the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins were basically averaging about 4 wins a year each. The Patriots won seventeen out of nineteen AFC East titles, and eleven consecutive. By the late 2010s, each of the fan bases of the other three franchises were likely diminished. What hope is there as a fan of the Bills, Jets, or Dolphins if you know that you cannot compete.

The Crimson Tide has had a similar effect on the SEC. They're so far ahead of the other teams that it's diminishing hope that anyone can ever beat them again. And when extrapolated to all of college football, where the same three or four teams are in the four team playoff every year I can almost guarantee you that within ten to fifteen years time college football will be a niche sports, consisting of two or three dozens teams and enjoyed primarily in Alabama, South Carolina, Texas, and Ohio.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Or we could actual address the real issue.

1. Fire Blake James.
2. Bring in a competent AD with passion and autonomy.
3. Allow this person to run the department.

Why don't we try this simple fix first?

Root Cause Step:

AD position (or whoever is empowered to hire/fire HC) is the most critical. Get that wrong, and everything else drifts from the down range aim point.

Bring me the right empowered position to hire/fire HC and then we'll see meaningful structural improvement for our Canes football program (and very likely all athletics).

 

[PredaCane]

Or we could actual address the real issue.

1. Fire Blake James.
2. Bring in a competent AD with passion and autonomy.
3. Allow this person to run the department.

Why don't we try this simple fix first?

The real issue is we can drop bags and get away with it like other programs. THAT'S the real issue.

 

[rustywalkedaway]

Or we could actual address the real issue.

1. Fire Blake James.
2. Bring in a competent AD with passion and autonomy.
3. Allow this person to run the department.

Why don't we try this simple fix first?

If the fix is so simple, why haven't other program, that clearly prioritize football, done this? I'm pretty sure Michigan, Nebraska, Florida, etc. would do this if it was so obvious.

To be clear, James sucks and I don't defend him. I also recognize that the A.D. doesn't call the shots when it comes to big time college football. The story of Saban chewing out the LSU A.D. is legend and it was clear that Paterno answered to his A.D. not at all.

 

[Consigliere]

The real issue is we can drop bags and get away with it like other programs. THAT'S the real issue.

No. That is not the “real” issue.

 

[Consigliere]

If the fix is so simple, why haven't other program, that clearly prioritize football, done this? I'm pretty sure Michigan, Nebraska, Florida, etc. would do this if it was so obvious.

To be clear, James sucks and I don't defend him. I also recognize that the A.D. doesn't call the shots when it comes to big time college football. The story of Saban chewing out the LSU A.D. is legend and it was clear that Paterno answered to his A.D. not at all.

Stick to us and what pertains to us. My posts are very specific to us.

 

[mossmadness]

When wasn’t there a serious imbalance in college football?

College football is, and has always been, a small group of blue bloods. A hand full of those blue bloods get it together over a decade. And then usually a new kid on the block joins them.

People act like there was some time where anything could happen every season. That period never existed.

 

[rustywalkedaway]

Stick to us and what pertains to us. My posts are very specific to us.

OK. I understand your parameters, but I don't see why your solution is specific to any particular school. You seem to say the "right" A.D. is the answer to football success. Or is it your contention specific that the only thing standing between Miami and football dominance is James?

 

[Deleted member 23667]

We haven't had Top 10 classes every year. We've had three or four since 2008.

Thanks. I stand corrected. Top 20 then (not every year but practically every year). Point is the author must not be aware that we recruit pretty well but that we routinely fall short on the field for other reasons, most importantly, bad and inexperienced coaches.

 

[MetiSkeemz]

This absolute shîtshow of an article looks at FSU as a better program than Miami. BUT my biggest take away was this statement which I’ve been hollering from the mountain tops for years...

The CFP and ESPN will make the call on expanding the playoff. The NCAA would have to decide that reducing full-ride football scholarships would be good for the sport’s popularity long-term, and certainly there would be issues to come out of that decision across the country. It's been done before, most recently in 1992 when the limit moved from 95 to 85.

ESecPN cares about RATINGS and they will continue driving these teams in on ratings cause THEY ultimately control the playoff. They’ll rate the kids at the school high which entices them to commit there cause they know I’m this format of the playoff they’ll always be there. But #LeighToTheU tho... lmao

 

[Consigliere]

OK. I understand your parameters, but I don't see why your solution is specific to any particular school. You seem to say the "right" A.D. is the answer to football success. Or is it your contention specific that the only thing standing between Miami and football dominance is James?

1. I am not saying that at all. I am not saying that the only thing holding Oregon State or Nebraska back is an AD.

2. My thoughts are very obvious and only pertain to Miami. It is about our inherent advantages and who we play (see old posts below).

Coaching, Salaries and the Coastal

Before I begin, the goal isn’t simply to win the Coastal, as that is an incredibly low bar. The point is to further explain who we’re competing with on a regular basis as we play six games against these teams in the Coastal. As you read the post below, I present the following questions: If you...

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52-33 under Blake James

#Buildingchampions

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I can’t defend Manny

Well, been a dedicated fan over 50 years and haven’t seen such a sad state of affairs in a while. Don’t know the x’s and o’s or spend the season ticket money or know the Admin foibles as much as many here, but the pain (and joy) of Canes Football runs pretty deep. I appreciate all the learned...

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3. I believe if we implemented these changes (e.g. bring in Danny White with autonomy) then we can start worrying about things that might matter more (e.g. the gap in $$$).

Do you follow?

 

[warpigs58]

If the fix is so simple, why haven't other program, that clearly prioritize football, done this? I'm pretty sure Michigan, Nebraska, Florida, etc. would do this if it was so obvious.

To be clear, James sucks and I don't defend him. I also recognize that the A.D. doesn't call the shots when it comes to big time college football. The story of Saban chewing out the LSU A.D. is legend and it was clear that Paterno answered to his A.D. not at all.

Most universities are not going to put the financial resources into football that Bama, Clemson, & OSU do.

College football is dying a slow death, especially out West. PAC-12 will fold eventually.

 

[ssvir]

College Football is now MLB.

A handful of teams spend 2-5x what everyone else spends on players, facilities, support staff, scouts, etc and while occasionally a team catches lightning in a bottle that lasts a season or two by being smarter/lucky, in the end the same 4 teams start the season competing for a championship and everyone else is a tier below.

 

[GojiraCane]

This absolute shîtshow of an article looks at FSU as a better program than Miami. BUT my biggest take away was this statement which I’ve been hollering from the mountain tops for years...

The CFP and ESPN will make the call on expanding the playoff. The NCAA would have to decide that reducing full-ride football scholarships would be good for the sport’s popularity long-term, and certainly there would be issues to come out of that decision across the country. It's been done before, most recently in 1992 when the limit moved from 95 to 85.

ESecPN cares about RATINGS and they will continue driving these teams in on ratings cause THEY ultimately control the playoff. They’ll rate the kids at the school high which entices them to commit there cause they know I’m this format of the playoff they’ll always be there. But #LeighToTheU tho... lmao

What I fear will happen with 70 person scholarships is that an Alabama will direct NUMEROUS players to unofficially affiliated Group of 5 schools and use them as farm teams until they are ready to call up the selected players. That’s one way around the limit, and it’s easy to envision.

 

[Dwinstitles]

the issue is accountability.

that’s why as much as I love Ed Reed.

highsmith was the guy that was needed.

someone who wanted to come in here and ruffle feathers.