If we miss ACCCG + CFP, it will come back to one decision (SMU game)

[Calinative]

The timeout on lightfoots penalty was mind boggling

People that complain about true 50/50 Timeout decisions are so annoying.. they quite literally ALWAYS just look at the result and then ***** about the decision after that.

Every ******* coach in football waits till the last second to call timeouts in those situations. And the coach didn’t force Lightfoot to hit the qb

 

[TheATLCane]

refs in SMU game should be investigated

 

[[]_[] swag]

There were also a 4th and 1 and a 3rd and 1 play we didn't convert.

Of course we ran both of them right up the middle.

We convert either one and that game is over.

We had run 3 times in a row to set up that 4th and 1 and twice in a row to set up the third and one also. After drives where we moved the ball to smu territory with ease due to the passing game (I think smu is bottom of cfb pass defense).

 

[Calinative]

Beck's performance against Louisville is ultimately why we lost another game this season. The offense went into a shell because he spooked everyone. The only thing worse than 5 picks is 10 picks lol.

That’s on the coaches being retarded pussies.

Idgaf what anyone says bringing in a top portal qb, paying him millions, then not BLINDLY 100% trusting him is ******* retarded. And the results after that is entirely on the coaches. You don’t answer a bad performance with FORCING a bad performance.

 

[88]

It was Xavier Lucas but I said a few times that I actually thought it was the right call. I try to be objective when it comes to Miami, and actually it's detrimental at times. I think sometimes I demand too much. So I could be wrong here but when I saw that play I was a lot more upset at Lucas hesitating than I was the call. You have a clear shot to knock a quarterback's spine out of his body, knock him into the ******* tunnel. Why are you running to his blind side and breaking down like he's suddenly going to explode into an unprovoked back-pedal?

Sigh. Anyway, I thought it was close. You can argue the force of the hit caused his arm to go forward. And you'd probably be correct. But he did have full control of the football with his arm going forward. Either way, if you thought it was a fumble, I don't think you're a crazy person at all. But just give me this one and say it wasn't, and we still have 15 other chances to win that game that I laid out. So no, the whole season didn't come down to Mario kneeling, as moronic as it was. It came down to 15 plays in that game that we didn't make.

I also purposely didn't include the SEVEN offensive penalties we had in the first half because I had a nice lunch and didn't want to projectile it all over my office.

Very well could have been an incomplete pass, just think overturning the call on the field usually doesnt happen on a play that close. But yeah, theres still plenty to vomit over otherwise.

 

[Ryanmilli]

Nah, most of his timeouts are weird.

But people just make assumptions that Mario is scuuuured and calls panic timeouts and then state that as fact and berate him while proclaiming nobody can change their mind. It seems more plausible to me just from the experience of being a human that the late defensive timeouts we've seen this year (the SMU 4th down and the VT 4th down come to mind, there may be others) result from Heatherman getting a look and then telling Cristobal in those fancy headsets they wear to call timeout.

 

[Calinative]

Official stats seconds between plays run

97. Oregon
105. Georgia
106. Alabama
108. Texas a$m
111. Notre Dame
118. Byu
125. Indiana
126. Vanderbilt
128. Miami
And dead last is……..
136. Ohio State

How in the **** does running a lot of plays translate to winning. Look at this sht!

I’d asssume the fact teams that are good are more often running out the clock to end games is shifting these stats significantly.

It’d be better to just look at first half or something..

 

[gacaneaddict]

That’s on the coaches being retarded pussies.

Idgaf what anyone says bringing in a top portal qb, paying him millions, then not BLINDLY 100% trusting him is ******* retarded. And the results after that is entirely on the coaches. You don’t answer a bad performance with FORCING a bad performance.

What?? Beck had everyone spooked after that Lville game. He was awful.

 

[CaneTheGaytors]

I didn’t vote because the options were too lenient.

 

[San Amaro Dr]

That’s on the coaches being retarded pussies.

Idgaf what anyone says bringing in a top portal qb, paying him millions, then not BLINDLY 100% trusting him is ******* retarded. And the results after that is entirely on the coaches. You don’t answer a bad performance with FORCING a bad performance.

Sir, this is a Wendy's...

 

[LA\^/]

I lowkey blame that game on the following
- Jojo drop shifted momentum A LOT
- Marty Brown & not Fletcher on the play where we needed 1 yard
- The PI no call & the unnecessary roughness on Lightfoot

The TO we called that lead to the unnecessary roughness was horrendous as well. They were scrambling on a 4th and long. Why give them time to call a play??

 

[TheOriginalCane]

The call on the field is presumptively correct. It needs to be a clear and obvious error to reverse. This is a standard that is applied by courts all the time. But if you watch the "command center" stuff, the replay dictator is not applying this standard at all. He is clearly doing de novo reviews and imposing his opinion without any deference to the call on the field at all.

This needs to be talked about more.

As much as I have appreciated the transparency of broadcasting the ACC booth deliberation, there is ONE GUY who seems to lead all the conversations, and he never pauses for a moment to say "OK, do we have clear and obvious evidence to overrule the call on the field". Maybe people think it's just ASSUMED, but I have a law degree, and I can tell you that juries frequently need to be reminded about the elements of the crime and the standards of evidence and proof and certainty needed to render a verdict.

In all of those conversations, I feel like it is just a bunch of fans talking about what they are seeing, and how they feel about it, rather than evaluating whether there is sufficient evidence to overturn the ruling on the field.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Yes, but you're fighting a losing battle here. The simplest and most obvious explanation for why we are playing at the tempo we are playing at is because that's the freaking tempo Beck, our QB who yells hike, is most comfortable playing at.

I posted in another thread that turned into a thread about tempo yesterday that using the seconds between play measure, Beck averaged 29.x in his good year starting at UGA, 25.x or 26.x last year when he wasn't so good, and now 30.0 playing much better than last year. So data does seem to support the explanation - it's Beck's preference to play at a slower pace - and that he does play better at slower pace than he does at a faster but not breakneck pace.

(Also the # of plays/game the 2 years at UGA and this year are pretty constant)

Beck prefers a faster tempo. Ask him.

 

[RVACane]

But people just make assumptions that Mario is scuuuured and calls panic timeouts and then state that as fact and berate him while proclaiming nobody can change their mind. It seems more plausible to me just from the experience of being a human that the late defensive timeouts we've seen this year (the SMU 4th down and the VT 4th down come to mind, there may be others) result from Heatherman getting a look and then telling Cristobal in those fancy headsets they wear to call timeout.

Yeah, it’s possible and fine. Sometimes I think he takes ridiculous timeouts but his timeouts aren’t what’s costing us those games. Some of his timeouts I feel help the other team’s offense giving them time to regroup when our defense is in a groove or even buy them time they need at that moment. It’s just another thing though.

 

[ristwasdown]

Yeah, it’s possible and fine. Sometimes I think he takes ridiculous timeouts but his timeouts aren’t what’s costing us those games. Some of his timeouts I feel help the other team’s offense giving them time to regroup when our defense is in a groove or even buy them time they need at that moment. It’s just another thing though.

Funny enough, Marios timeout at VT when we were backed up in our own RedZone 6 seconds before the end of the third was due to wind. He didn't want to kick into it, wind was howling at times. Being at the game and being close to the sideline helped me understand that

I've always made fun of Mario for his timeouts, but maybe there's been more context I've missed at times.

 

[RVACane]

Funny enough, Marios timeout at VT when we were backed up in our own RedZone 6 seconds before the end of the third was due to wind. He didn't want to kick into it, wind was howling at times. Being at the game and being close to the sideline helped me understand that

I've always made fun of Mario for his timeouts, but maybe there's been more context I've missed at times.

Do they still do that key rattling thing at VT?

 

[Elmer Leghorn]

People that complain about true 50/50 Timeout decisions are so annoying.. they quite literally ALWAYS just look at the result and then ***** about the decision after that.

Every ******* coach in football waits till the last second to call timeouts in those situations. And the coach didn’t force Lightfoot to hit the qb

Whatever. That was a terrible decision with terrible timing.

 

[flips]

Beck prefers a faster tempo. Ask him.

Then he should have played at a faster tempo this year. Cam liked playing at a fast tempo. He did so both years at WSU and he managed to play at a much faster tempo last year here than Beck has. So, it's possible for a transfer QB who likes playing at a faster tempo to play reasonably fast here.

Will admit there is one possibility that could explain Beck preferring to play at a faster tempo, and then not here. Perhaps as some have speculated on CIS, Mario got spooked by the defensive performance last year and decided the offense has to play slower?

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Do they still do that key rattling thing at VT?

Yes. I seent it.

 

[Lokest]

if beck doesn't throw that pick we win

I'm not sitting here praising Mario I'm just saying the morons on here that are easy to spot (use the phrase fizical) -- whining about our focus on physicality is just stupid

hey pal, it's the main reason we're about to have back to back 10 win seasons in decades


he shouldn't have kneeled. he probably did because he had zero faith in beck (that was just 1.5 games removed from beck throwing 4 picks against louisville) -- and I gotta say, he was right. beck throw a back breaking int on the goal line. if beck doesn't throw that pick, we win the game and the defense doesn't lose all hope and soul trotting out there after their qb just blew a game for 2nd time in 3 games

I don’t give a **** about possibly getting 10 wins if you still can’t make an ACCCG, playoffs, or win a **** pop tart bowl. We can take becks struggles out of it because his boneheaded offensive philosophy is what led to them in the first place and what made the game a dogfight when it had no business being that way.

It also doesn’t make sense to say he kneeled bc of beck because if he didn’t trust him to thrown in regulation, why would he kneel just to let him throw for the game in OT?