If we miss ACCCG + CFP, it will come back to one decision (SMU game)

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Kneeled the ball with confidence and then got out fyzicaled in OT lol
the kneel was dumb

but we didnt get pushed around in OT, we threw a pick on the goal line

it's so crazy to see morons continue to push this narrative
 
There are no fewer than a dozen plays this season that made the difference between us being undefeated and having these two losses.

It’s been a combination of factors. If you only see one, you definitely have an agenda.
 
the kneel was dumb

but we didnt get pushed around in OT, we threw a pick on the goal line

it's so crazy to see morons continue to push this narrative
How about you go watch the replay of SMUs winning drive and then come back and tell us how they did it.
 
I don't see a correlation with moving faster, means potentially more penatlies.

But right on that he can't fix the most penalized unit on the team, his own OL. Pretty sad.

Very frustrating - If not for all these penalties, we would be a much more dominant team. OL is a big part of it, but the whole team chips in, too.
 
Mario knew his approach was too conservative but refused to change until it was too late. Playing gimmicky trick ball against Sanford and Syracuse was pathetic. He needed to be creative against the good teams but Mario chose to stand on the sideline clutching his pearls.

Changing the offensive approach after the SMU loss is Mario's admission of guilt. He closed the barn door after the last cow got out.

And for the record, I've never been sold on Dawson. Good college OC's can scheme guys open. Dawson has to rely on trick plays. We need an upgrade after this season.
 
How about you go watch the replay of SMUs winning drive and then come back and tell us how they did it.
if beck doesn't throw that pick we win

I'm not sitting here praising Mario I'm just saying the morons on here that are easy to spot (use the phrase fizical) -- whining about our focus on physicality is just stupid

hey pal, it's the main reason we're about to have back to back 10 win seasons in decades


he shouldn't have kneeled. he probably did because he had zero faith in beck (that was just 1.5 games removed from beck throwing 4 picks against louisville) -- and I gotta say, he was right. beck throw a back breaking int on the goal line. if beck doesn't throw that pick, we win the game and the defense doesn't lose all hope and soul trotting out there after their qb just blew a game for 2nd time in 3 games
 
Mario knew his approach was too conservative but refused to change until it was too late. Playing gimmicky trick ball against Sanford and Syracuse was pathetic. He needed to be creative against the good teams but Mario chose to stand on the sideline clutching his pearls.

Changing the offensive approach after the SMU loss is Mario's admission of guilt. He closed the barn door after the last cow got out.

And for the record, I've never been sold on Dawson. Good college OC's can scheme guys open. Dawson has to rely on trick plays. We need an upgrade after this season.
were we too conservative vs louisville?

I mean we were in field goal range and threw a pick (with a timeout left) - which is on dawson play call and beck execution

we kneel at the end vs SMU because we clearly dont trust beck (for good reason - throws a pick to lose the game in OT) and it's not on Dawson, but it's on Mario?


I'm coming off as a defender - I'm more so just calling out that people pick and choose who they want to give credit to and blame on here and' its usually inconsistent
 
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Mario knew his approach was too conservative but refused to change until it was too late. Playing gimmicky trick ball against Sanford and Syracuse was pathetic. He needed to be creative against the good teams but Mario chose to stand on the sideline clutching his pearls.

Changing the offensive approach after the SMU loss is Mario's admission of guilt. He closed the barn door after the last cow got out.

And for the record, I've never been sold on Dawson. Good college OC's can scheme guys open. Dawson has to rely on trick plays. We need an upgrade after this season.
This is silly come on. CIS was convinced nothing would change because Mirabel was Rasputin or something. Things change on offense and now it's gimmicky trick ball and they still get ****.

Dawson should have just trusted his $4m QB more against SMU instead of calling 6 runs on 2nd-4th 3 & less to go when we had good field position against SMU and we woulda won the game.

They have made changes since then and we have been better against **** defenses. Go finish the job and ****t on Pitt!

Happy thanksgiving
 
Against SMU it was puzzling the lack of deep shots against a poor secondary. Against VT we took our shots. The problem is JoJo can’t seem to get open on the deep shots and he is our stretch player. They threw him one against VT and he was covered up.

The one deep shot jojo was thrown to the Beck overthrew him and it was open.
 
Yeah, we really need to speed things up.

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Typical ignorance by focusing on ONE metric, and then ignoring everything else.

You can run a 14-play drive that takes 30 seconds between snaps and accounts for a total drive time of 9 or 10 minutes.

You can also run a 7-play drive that takes 30 seconds between snaps and accounts for a total drive time of 5 minutes.

"Efficiency" is not just about whether you score on the drive. It also involves your starting field position, the number of yards you gain per play, the way in which a team uses the extra time to change plays to more successful ones, avoidance of penalties, and the non-reliance on third-down and fourth-down conversions.

As you note, of the "slowest" GOOD teams, Miami is the second-worst when it comes to scoring offensive points per game. 128th in pace does not mean you will be 128th in points. But IN THAT GROUP OF TEAMS, we are second-worst.

Now, I'm going to post the top teams by MARGIN OF VICTORY. And Miami is ranked 9th. One is tempted to say "see, this is proof that Miami is doing well". But the reality is that if you are 27th in offensive scoring and 9th in margin of victory, that means your defense is amazing. And this is true. And teams that lose fewer games tend to have a higher margin of victory.

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But also look at the trends. Miami's margin of victory in 11 games is 17, but in the LAST THREE (the ones where we decided we needed "style points", our margin of victory is 26.3. Meaning, our margin of victory in the first 8 games was a lot lower.

Who is also "putting the pedal to the metal"? How about ND, with a 24 point margin of victory, but 41.3 in the last 3 games. And UGa, now at a 15.8 margin of victory after winning by 25.7 over the past 3 games. Or SMU, winning by 12.1 overall, but winning by 23.3 over the past 3 games.

Meanwhile, you can see teams that are struggling to finish the season strong. Pitt has been declining (fortunately). BYU. Oklahoma. USC. Alabama. Vandy. Of course, a lot of those schools are playing quality opponents in November, when Miami has beaten some weak ACC opposition over the same 3-game span.

The point is simple. When we run fewer possessions AND struggle to put teams away, we put ourselves at risk of losing that could easily be avoided by RUNNING MORE PLAYS AND POSSESSIONS.

Here is the ultimate comparison, from your chart above. Comparing the rank of SECONDS PER PLAY to the number of PLAYS PER GAME.

125 Indiana - 48th in plays per game at 70.2
111 Notre Dame - 126th in plays per game at 62.3
97 Oregon - 96th in plays per game at 66.5
126 Vanderbilt - 116th in plays per game at 63.5
108 aTm - 60th in plays per game at 69.1
136 Ohio Taint - 117th in plays per game at 63.4
123 James Madison - 37th in plays per game at 71.6
100 UTSA - 53rd in plays per game at 69.9
106 Alabama - 57th in plays per game at 69.7
105 Georgia - 30th in plays per game at 72.5
128 Miami - 76th in plays per game at 68.1 (and we had 72.6 plays per game in 2024)
118 BYU - 63rd in plays per game at 68.9

If we ran 72.6 plays per game in 2025 like we did in 2024, we would be ranked 29th. We'd be just ahead of UGa.

So even by taking a long gap between plays, it is still possible to run MORE plays per game. Indiana does. aTm does. JMU and UTSA do. Alabama and Georgia do. BYU does.

Yes, we realize that ND and Oregon and Vandy and Taint are SUPER-EFFICIENT. They take time, they slow down, they score on most of their possessions. But this is not the ONLY way to succeed. There are actually MORE TEAMS that are ranked higher in plays-per-game than time-between-plays than there are teams that are the reverse of that.

That's all I'm asking. Make the "30 seconds of delay", the staring at the sidelines...PAY OFF. Run more plays. Score more points. It's not complicated.
 
Losing to Louisville was almost inevitable when you go down 14-0 in the first quarter and your QB throws four interceptions, including one on the final drive. I'm not going to waste energy there.

But I just can't get past Mario's decision to kneel the ball to force overtime against SMU in Dallas.

1st and 10, 0:25 seconds left, one timeout at your 25 yard line. Beck was playing well, you were moving the ball in the air, and we have a kicker that can hit from 50+ yards. It just baffles me to this day that he made the call to go to overtime instead of playing to win in regulation.

Two completions + a long kick and we're sitting at 10-1, ACCCG all but locked up and CFP playoff birth waiting for us.

That loss stings almost as bad as the Syracuse loss last year. This is a top-10 team, and we're likely going to be playing in the Pop-Tart bowl again this year...
There are plenty of bad decisions but yeah
Turtleing in the spot was definitely right up there
 
I agree. If we beat Pitt and don’t make playoffs, the Lightfoot play is the play that defined our season. Do you feel that penalty was warranted?
It was stupid by lightfoot and it was criminal by referee
There is zero chance that call is made against Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, Ohio, Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame or USC

Only the dumb ***** that run the ACC conference would allow that to happen

I swear to you if Miami is not in the playoffs, I hope to God the ACC does not get a team in. I would love it.
 
Very frustrating - If not for all these penalties, we would be a much more dominant team. OL is a big part of it, but the whole team chips in, too.
There is nothing wrong with OL it’s the refs and announcers in the booth and SEC voters.
 
Two dropped passes cost us that game. Other things but those two alone a really no contest.
I disagree
Yeah, the drop passes hurt, but we should’ve been winning that game at the half regardless
We let him hang around and we let the referees get involved. There were a ton of plays that we botched
Brown on the short run, play where he tried to bounce instead of jamming it up there and get in the yard that was a huge play
I won’t even go into all the stupid dumb ******* penalties that this team commits weekly to self sabotage themselves
 
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This is going to blow a lot of minds around here, but the correlation between seconds per play and points per game is .097. To save everyone from having to ask ChatGPT what this means, it means that there is virtually no correlation between pace of play and scoring.

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How about possessions per game? And then factor in prohibitive, favorite versus underdog.
 
I know the "up-tempo" crowd is set in their ways, but here's how unnecessary it is to run up to the line for every play:
(Thank you to whoever posted that link. It completely blew up the "tempo" theory.)

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Even that date is not correct because it doesn’t factor in when teams do decide to slow it down and bleed the clock out when Indiana is up 55 points in the fourth quarter. I doubt they’re trying to run place fast anymore so it’s all situational in my opinion Unless you can break it down by quarter by current score of game the data will lie.
I’m betting that Indiana runs plays at a faster clip earlier in the game than they do on the later part of the game just a hunch
 
There are no fewer than a dozen plays this season that made the difference between us being undefeated and having these two losses.

It’s been a combination of factors. If you only see one, you definitely have an agenda.
All of them in my opinion are self-inflicted. Nobody has beat us this year. Miami beat Miami twice. That’s a fact.
 
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