If we miss ACCCG + CFP, it will come back to one decision (SMU game)

[OrangeBowlMagic]

It. Was. A. Bad. Decision. By. Our. Coach. I can't be convinced otherwise. Also, he called it so late because he didn't know what to do and panicked

That's fine, you play results. Lots of fans do. It's not a big deal.

 

[TaylorWalls]

I know the "up-tempo" crowd is set in their ways, but here's how unnecessary it is to run up to the line for every play:
(Thank you to whoever posted that link. It completely blew up the "tempo" theory.)

 

[AtrainCane]

This is going to blow a lot of minds around here, but the correlation between seconds per play and points per game is .097. To save everyone from having to ask ChatGPT what this means, it means that there is virtually no correlation between pace of play and scoring.

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Youre. 100 percent right I looked up the stats.

 

[TaylorWalls]

Now that the "tEMpo" theory is done, we can look back and accept the fact that turnovers, penalties, and drops are infinitely more important than trying to play at a faster pace.

 

[1mg of Epi]

The opposite can also be said. What if we play faster and they just drop the ball more. Catch the ball. All this talk is moot if they just make the plays that are there.

I thought it was big time players make plays….make plays…sht make routine plays.

Lofton dropped a pass wide open with two blockers in front of him last game…people came on the thread talking about condensed formations. Catch the dam ball!

They scored on 6 of 8

This is going to blow a lot of minds around here, but the correlation between seconds per play and points per game is .097. To save everyone from having to ask ChatGPT what this means, it means that there is virtually no correlation between pace of play and scoring.

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yea. No.

 

[1mg of Epi]

Now that the "tEMpo" theory is done, we can look back and accept the fact that turnovers, penalties, and drops are infinitely more important than trying to play at a faster pace.

Nope. Tempo theory isn’t done.

 

[KingB02]

Against SMU it was puzzling the lack of deep shots against a poor secondary. Against VT we took our shots. The problem is JoJo can’t seem to get open on the deep shots and he is our stretch player. They threw him one against VT and he was covered up.

He was open and was missed by Beck on one deep shot I saw. Got behind the defender and ball was poorly overthrown. Can’t blame him on that one.

 

[mr.h]

I think we are peaking at the right time. We were spot on last week even if the score didn’t show it. Beck was hot.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

OK but it hasn't been 8. I do wish we'd play a little faster but I don't think the reason we lost games is because we don't. As others have pointed out, and I do literally every week in my stats thread, Ohio State is literally dead last in pace. 136 out of 136. Don't they have an athletic advantage over everyone they play? Of course. But they're just fine playing the way they play.

And this isn't a coordinator thing, it's Ryan Day. When they had Chip Kelly last year, they were 119th in pace.

Again, pace does not equal success. Pace does not mean you lower your margin for error. Efficiency equals success. Points equal success.

FAU is #1 in the country in pace. They're 42nd in scoring. They're 4-7.

I would be fine with going faster, and having done it all year, we only have 1 game left we're not changing things now, if only because the offense was struggling in mid-season. Try something different, I'm good with that. But we were averaging about 5.5 yards per play for over a month. Running more plays at 5.5 per play doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be any more successful on offense. The real argument would've been last year. We averaged 7 yards every time we snapped it. We should've been dying to run as many plays as possible. When you're average, what does more mediocrity bring you?

A couple of things here.

Slow pace PLUS shorter plays (runs up the middle, tunnel screens) reduces your number of possessions.

Slow pace PLUS a long completion to Jeremiah Smith equals Ohio Taint efficiency and points scored.

Miami's problem is that our pace BETWEEN plays is not resulting in EXPLOSIVE plays.

Another thing - Mario needs to CHANGE the pace when the situation allows for it. I'm not asking for 2 minute drives and 20 drives per game and we beat teams 72-63. But when our defense gets a 3-and-out, THEN HAVE THE OFFENSE RUN TEMPO. Because the opposing defense has not had a lot of time to rest.

We don't need tempo all the time, every time. But we also don't need to stare at the sideline and take 30 seconds to snap the ball if we are not doing anything with that time.

We need to be situational. Less predictable. Maybe not do the same thing every time, no matter what.

This reminds me of the good old predictable days of Run-Run-Pass-Punt.

Miami has some of the most conditioned athletes in the country. We have a talent advantage on most teams. Survey the field. If the box is loaded, change the play, run outside, don't run into the teeth of the defense every time. And pick up the pace when the opposing defense starts to get winded.

It's not that complicated, I just don't think Mario thinks this way.

 

[TaylorWalls]

They scored on 6 of 8

yea. No.

Your AI-generated response refers to Baylor and Oregon as "faster-paced teams". Oregon is #97 in seconds per play. Baylor is faster-paced but scores 7.5 fewer points per game than us.

You keep relying on AI. I'll think for myself and blow it all up with actual stats.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

They scored on 6 of 8

yea. No.

We are so doomed as a society. Just absolutely cooked.

 

[TaylorWalls]

Nope. Tempo theory isn’t done.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Official stats seconds between plays run

97. Oregon
105. Georgia
106. Alabama
108. Texas a$m
111. Notre Dame
118. Byu
125. Indiana
126. Vanderbilt
128. Miami
And dead last is……..
136. Ohio State

How in the **** does running a lot of plays translate to winning. Look at this sht!

"Seconds between plays run" is only HALF of the equation here. It is an indicator of our pace, it does not fully control our pace.

WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE ALL THAT TIME BETWEEN PLAYS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RUN EXPLOSIVE PLAYS. Taking 30 seconds to decide whether to stuff it up the A gap or the B gap is NOT PRODUCTIVE, it is NOT EFFICIENT.

 

[QuattroCane]

OP fails to blame Manny, the announcers, Adidas, officiating bias, ACC bias, or Playoff committee bias.

No black cleeks & sox...

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

A couple of things here.

Slow pace PLUS shorter plays (runs up the middle, tunnel screens) reduces your number of possessions.

Slow pace PLUS a long completion to Jeremiah Smith equals Ohio Taint efficiency and points scored.

Miami's problem is that our pace BETWEEN plays is not resulting in EXPLOSIVE plays.

Another thing - Mario needs to CHANGE the pace when the situation allows for it. I'm not asking for 2 minute drives and 20 drives per game and we beat teams 72-63. But when our defense gets a 3-and-out, THEN HAVE THE OFFENSE RUN TEMPO. Because the opposing defense has not had a lot of time to rest.

We don't need tempo all the time, every time. But we also don't need to stare at the sideline and take 30 seconds to snap the ball if we are not doing anything with that time.

We need to be situational. Less predictable. Maybe not do the same thing every time, no matter what.

This reminds me of the good old predictable days of Run-Run-Pass-Punt.

Miami has some of the most conditioned athletes in the country. We have a talent advantage on most teams. Survey the field. If the box is loaded, change the play, run outside, don't run into the teeth of the defense every time. And pick up the pace when the opposing defense starts to get winded.

It's not that complicated, I just don't think Mario thinks this way.

Agree with all of this. I’ve been screaming for tendency breakers for months. No good coaches are this predictable. I’ve said it all year, we got away with it last year and went into this year thinking, no matter what, we can run the ball for 3 yards. Again, it happened all year last year. It took the staff WAY too long to realize last year ain’t this year. Break a tendency, for Christs sake.

We finally did the last 2 games. A couple play action plays on short yardage. A couple short throws. Some motion incorporated and not just putting 9 guys on the LOS and pushing forward. Dare I say…creativity? Variation? All good things.

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

Against SMU it was puzzling the lack of deep shots against a poor secondary. Against VT we took our shots. The problem is JoJo can’t seem to get open on the deep shots and he is our stretch player. They threw him one against VT and he was covered up.

I agree but that particular pass was overthrown by Beck , Jojo didnt even have a chance to make a play

 

[TheOriginalCane]

They scored on 6 of 8

yea. No.

2 FGs, 4 TDs. And the fourth TD was a 2-minute drill at the end of the game in order to score enough style points to cover. We scored 3 TDs in 58 minutes against a terrible team.

Maybe we could run that final TD drive a couple more times throughout the game. Just a suggestion.

Against a 3-8 team with one of the worst defenses in the conference.

I feel like Clark Griswold..."Nothing to be proud of, Russ..."

 

[gacaneaddict]

Anyone blaming Mario for SMU loss does not understand football. Simple as that.

Before you get to the absolute screwjob by the incompetent ACC refs you had JoJo Drop/INT/TD sequence that was absolute gut punch.

You had Lofton TD drop before halftime cost you 4 points. Right there is the win. Make 2 plays ball in hands win game.

Then you get to the refs.

Call Miami for every movement pre snap, but FAIL to call SMU for starting kick step early. It allows them to get in pass block set quicker to help nuetralize Miami's biggest strength, DE pass rush.

Multiple late hits by SMU after play never called.

Toney gets hit early on 3rd down no call. Toney gets tackled in open field during route, no call.

The strip sack fumble would have given Miami ball inside SMU's 10 yard line. SMU goes on to score a TD, BAD CALL.

Then late even with all that disaster, our drops and refs calls or no calls, Miami still has a chance to ice game with ball late, Marion goes right past CB, he gets held, they not only pick it up, they flag Mauigoa on a hold that wasnt a hold! Terrible calls.

Even with ALL of THAT, Miami still has chance to win and Lightfoot gets called for that HORSECRAP call when he tries to hold QB up. They never in a million years call that on UGA, Alabama, Utah(other night), Ohio State, in their own conferences.

 

[The U is back to work]

Official stats seconds between plays run

97. Oregon
105. Georgia
106. Alabama
108. Texas a$m
111. Notre Dame
118. Byu
125. Indiana
126. Vanderbilt
128. Miami
And dead last is……..
136. Ohio State

How in the **** does running a lot of plays translate to winning. Look at this sht!

Oh this is an interesting list.

 

[Kn[]_[]ckles3o5]

I lowkey blame that game on the following
- Jojo drop shifted momentum A LOT
- Marty Brown & not Fletcher on the play where we needed 1 yard
- The PI no call & the unnecessary roughness on Lightfoot

Strip sack that was casually just erased without any fanfare
Offensive PI early that literally took pts off the board because they followed it with some other BS penalty.

The ACC and/or the officials have a playbook and they execute it flawlessly. Prior to the OPI they made a sus Roughing the passer call. Which they negated the impact of moments later but in the books the call was made and it looks like an iffy FOR Miami call when in fact it was a rope a dope. It’s calculated. It’s egregious and we should investigate it, prove it (which should be easy since they are so ******* blatant about it), then sue them and leave.