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NOLACane21 said:
Woodward's top 2 at this point are Kiffin and O'Brien. Orgeron will get sacked for cause due to NCAA violations and given around $7M to disappear. Napier is on the list but he's farther down. Woodward is a big name whuuah. Napier isn't a name. He's an accomplished duffle bag dropper turned G5 Head Coach.
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Dude if you think an LSU coach is going to get fired due to ncaa violations I'd love a hit of what you're smoking😂😂😂! Have you not seen enough violations and proof of violations by sec schools to know the ncaa won't touch them? Just a few months ago Tennessee was busted literally handing out bags of cash, just a few months ago and it's a story you don't even hear about anymore. It's been just swept under the rug like all the SEC dirt unless you're Missouri, Ole Miss or Mississippi St.
 
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Poopscoop said:
Yeah but I doubt tommy gets fired regardless. He's one of the premier s & c people in the country. WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS GET RID OF KYLE CAUSE HIS NUTRITION PROGRAM IS WORSE THAN MOST PRIVATE HIGH SCHOOLS THAT TAKE SPORTS SERIOUS... At this point we'd be better off just getting kfc than what he does. Feeley(who came in with an entirely different approach)I once thought would be great for this job. But he immediately started brown nosing to everyone and anyone in a position of power and stopped challenging the kids to reach their goals. As long as a kid goes 20mph we make sure to tweet about it and have the kid take pictures with one of Kyle's 20mph milkshakes... S&c and nutrition need to be synonymous at a far higher level than what were currently at. Like to see them changed immediately.
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Been saying it for years. Our nutrition program is a huge problem. It’s embarrassing we can’t even get little things like that right
 
Dwinstitles said:
U need the players bruh, Moffit aint making Flagg into some beast man. When will u understand u need the players bruh
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Agree to disagree. I'm sorry if you feel all this staph does is miss on ANY players with talent you're fooling yourself. You think In our years where we dominated if we had this joke of an s & c program and nutrition program that the results would've been the same than ur just wrong. Plenty of examples in place that would all tell you the same. Myself included. People wanna steady talk about the end results with swausey because they don't understand the full story. But reality is that man was a beast for us when he was allowed to do his thing and run his program his way which had a whole lot to do with Tommy by the way. We have plenty of kids on our current roster who would be beasts at other programs and are simply getting missused and ran into the ground here. Is what it is.
 
cocanes said:
I like Stoops. Mark that is
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Orgeron has never been a DC. I'm not paying him to learn. Miss me with that trash.

Stoops is a **** good choice, but Miami is going to go for the flashy hire, when that fails, they will go cheap, but not even good cheap. Just cheap and half-assed
 
Poopscoop said:
Agree to disagree. I'm sorry if you feel all this staph does is miss on ANY players with talent you're fooling yourself. You think In our years where we dominated if we had this joke of an s & c program and nutrition program that the results would've been the same than ur just wrong. Plenty of examples in place that would all tell you the same. Myself included. People wanna steady talk about the end results with swausey because they don't understand the full story. But reality is that man was a beast for us when he was allowed to do his thing and run his program his way which had a whole lot to do with Tommy by the way. We have plenty of kids on our current roster who would be beasts at other programs and are simply getting missused and ran into the ground here. Is what it is.
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There's a reason why Swasey is a nobody. Dude didn't even have the proper certs to be in the **** room.
S/C is important, but building the right culture matters more. Amazing what a high intensity culture does for weight and strength gains. Dudes will live in the gym and do whatever it takes to get on that field.
 
Poopscoop said:
Agree to disagree. I'm sorry if you feel all this staph does is miss on ANY players with talent you're fooling yourself. You think In our years where we dominated if we had this joke of an s & c program and nutrition program that the results would've been the same than ur just wrong. Plenty of examples in place that would all tell you the same. Myself included. People wanna steady talk about the end results with swausey because they don't understand the full story. But reality is that man was a beast for us when he was allowed to do his thing and run his program his way which had a whole lot to do with Tommy by the way. We have plenty of kids on our current roster who would be beasts at other programs and are simply getting missused and ran into the ground here. Is what it is.
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He sucked swasey when the talent level dipped. Not that he sucked but he wasn't going to look as good cause he didn't have the dogs. Once u lose that I don't care who's training u you won't do **** cause u are who u are. Will he get someone to look the part? Yes but most S/C coaches can do that. We had a fat guy named Felder and out team was pretty good in 17-18 because of the horses and some luck. If u racing horses they can train to run as hard as the can but not every has American Pharo DNA. Julio Jones would be Julio anywhere he went.
 
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Poopscoop said:
Yeah but I doubt tommy gets fired regardless. He's one of the premier s & c people in the country. WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS GET RID OF KYLE CAUSE HIS NUTRITION PROGRAM IS WORSE THAN MOST PRIVATE HIGH SCHOOLS THAT TAKE SPORTS SERIOUS... At this point we'd be better off just getting kfc than what he does. Feeley(who came in with an entirely different approach)I once thought would be great for this job. But he immediately started brown nosing to everyone and anyone in a position of power and stopped challenging the kids to reach their goals. As long as a kid goes 20mph we make sure to tweet about it and have the kid take pictures with one of Kyle's 20mph milkshakes... S&c and nutrition need to be synonymous at a far higher level than what were currently at. Like to see them changed immediately.
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THANK YOU! My goodness; it’s obvious as fck our S&C is less than stellar, yet we had ppl on this board defending it b/c some “tweeted photos” & a GPS tweet of 20 mph. Smh.
 
Canedude08 said:
Orgeron has never been a DC. I'm not paying him to learn. Miss me with that trash.

Stoops is a **** good choice, but Miami is going to go for the flashy hire, when that fails, they will go cheap, but not even good cheap. Just cheap and half-assed
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Who’s talking about Orgeron?! I wouldn’t be mad with I just happen to like his brother Mark better.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
But I thought Coach O went 15-0 and was great? So does he suck?
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There's a reason Joe Brady was basically offered a blank check to stay at LSU. But Ed O couldn't do his current OC "deerty" by firing him and replacing him with his own passing coordinator. Everyone at LSU, from admin to players, knew who the brains were behind that offense that "popped up" out of nowhere.
With that said, Ed O is a decent coach. He could have us winning the Coastal annually and shooting our shot at NY6 games. At this point, I'd be more than willing to accept that.
 
CaneThang2020 said:
There's a reason Joe Brady was basically offered a blank check to stay at LSU. But Ed O couldn't do his current OC "deerty" by firing him and replacing him with his own passing coordinator. Everyone at LSU, from admin to players, knew who the brains were behind that offense that "popped up" out of nowhere.
With that said, Ed O is a decent coach. He could have us winning the Coastal annually and shooting our shot at NY6 games. At this point, I'd be more than willing to accept that.
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He's 49-43 as a head coach, outside of the 15-0 season. He's useless.
 
Our strength and nutrition programs is another big reason why Mario would be the right choice. He’s been at bama and Oregon and knows what a strength staff looks like and presumably a nutrition program worth a dam. He’s also a solid culture guy. Yeah game day coaching is meh but we need someone to stabilize the program and stabilize the lines and add physicality. Mario will all of that provided he has the means. Just my opinion
 
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Dwinstitles said:
He sucked swasey when the talent level dipped. Not that he sucked but he wasn't going to look as good cause he didn't have the dogs. Once u lose that I don't care who's training u you won't do **** cause u are who u are. Will he get someone to look the part? Yes but most S/C coaches can do that. We had a fat guy named Felder and out team was pretty good in 17-18 because of the horses and some luck. If u racing horses they can train to run as hard as the can but not every has American Pharo DNA. Julio Jones would be Julio anywhere he went.
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#1 under onion conditioning was never our problem. You all like to talk about swausey under golden and his certification and not being allowed in the weight room. All of that is a blatant lie by the way but around here people like running with lies and trying to give them legs. Reality of that story is alfraud tried to make him fatten kids up and change his entire approach. He had kids simply eating straight protein and working out for bulk. That's not what swausey does and he told all those kids he disagreed with the program in place and distanced himself from it. But take all of that how you wish. No Julio Jones wouldn't have been Julio Jones anywhere he went as it's a rare athlete who achieves his peak when he's surrounded by trash. He would've flashed and shown potential. But iron sharpens iron. If that's gonna be y'all's argument than stop complaining about Mandy and lashlee and any other coach etc. If a missed eval is gonna be the excuse and a kid is either a stud or he's not than sports definitely isn't in the cards for you my brother. Life in general. Cause the only way you get better in any craft is through applying yourself to your trade and gaining experience.
 
Poopscoop said:
#1 under onion conditioning was never our problem. You all like to talk about swausey under golden and his certification and not being allowed in the weight room. All of that is a blatant lie by the way but around here people like running with lies and trying to give them legs. Reality of that story is alfraud tried to make him fatten kids up and change his entire approach. He had kids simply eating straight protein and working out for bulk. That's not what swausey does and he told all those kids he disagreed with the program in place and distanced himself from it. But take all of that how you wish. No Julio Jones wouldn't have been Julio Jones anywhere he went as it's a rare athlete who achieves his peak when he's surrounded by trash. He would've flashed and shown potential. But iron sharpens iron. If that's gonna be y'all's argument than stop complaining about Mandy and lashlee and any other coach etc. If a missed eval is gonna be the excuse and a kid is either a stud or he's not than sports definitely isn't in the cards for you my brother. Life in general. Cause the only way you get better in any craft is through applying yourself to your trade and gaining experience.
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I do know for sure Swasey was told to bulk them up. Golden did want them fat and that wasn't on Swasey I know that for sure so your right about that. U give Swasey a Sean Taylor and Julio Jones he knows what to do with them.
 
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