If Kliff Kingsbury were to get fired he should be our next OC

[Jaromir Jagr]

If we are going to go with an Air Raid guru, I'd prefer Sonny Cumbie from TCU. He incorporates more power running into his scheme. Klingsbury has proven to be overly fond of passing. His best season in terms of rushing offense was Pat Maholmes' first year as a starter where he pretty much was the rushing offense on the team.

People don't get that the pass-pass-pass thing doesn't win championships. They have limited attention spans, so they want to see quick scores, but they forget that passing teams don't know how to grind out a win nor do they know what to do when the other team shuts down the passing game.

 

[deleted19096]

You mean when I brought up the Heisman thing?

Agqin, how many Heisman trophies did Richts QBs win?

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Agqin, how many Heisman trophies did Richts QBs win?

None, because even though they were setting conference passing records, Richt's offenses actually used other players.

But I do agree that Klingsbury was quite a mentor for Manziel and his legendary Canadian Football League career.

 

[DTP]

People don't get that the pass-pass-pass thing doesn't win championships.

Not only that, good luck attracting the 5* running backs to play in a system that never runs the ball. One of the positions Miami has recruited best over the last few seasons is running back. Those guys aren't coming here to pass block.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

So we want to hire a guy who can't win games because he was the OC when a freak player won the Heisman.

 

[TrueFloridian]

We already run a one back RPO offense. If we lined up in pro-set I’d understand the idea of not wanting air raid. He’d be a huge upgrade over what we have now. Haselwood would be a UM lock with him at OC. It would be a smart move from Richt to name him OC, demote Brown, and let Dugans stay as Asst OC or whatever. This way Richt could save face and let his son learn under an actual QB coach.

 

[mackjones]

Kingbury hasn't had much success as a Head Coach but he can Coach QB's. Played for Mike Leach & Coached under Sumlin at Houston & Texas A&M.
He's Coached 2 Heisman Trophy Winner's (Manziel, Mayfield), and each one of the QB's he's coached has gone onto the NFL (Keenum, Manziel, Mayfield, Maholmes,Webb).
A lot of people on here have mentioned Mike Leach as the Head Coach but with Kingbury you'd get that prolific offense without the other Crap

Since Kingsbury became an offensive coordinator in 2011, his offenses have averaged 550 yards and nearly 42 points per game

I dig your post, but your notion AIN'T NEVER going to happen! Bloody well guarantee it.

 

[sitzee]

**** do you make this **** up? Rosier had exactly the same amount of carries as Mahomes did that yr.

And last year Texas Tech ran the ball slightly more than The U

2015 - DeAndre Washington 233 carries 1492 yds. = 6.4 ypc Patrick Mahomes - 131 carries 456 yds = 3.5 ypc

2017 - Texas Tech 406 carries 1795 yds = 4.42 ypc UM - 391 carries 2071 yds = 5.3 ypc

2017 - Malik Rosier - 391 carries 468 yds = 3.6 ypc

If we are going to go with an Air Raid guru, I'd prefer Sonny Cumbie from TCU. He incorporates more power running into his scheme. Klingsbury has proven to be overly fond of passing. His best season in terms of rushing offense was Pat Maholmes' first year as a starter where he pretty much was the rushing offense on the team.

 

[WhatTheHell]

Bama will hire him as a waterboy.

 

[DTP]

**** do you make this **** up? Rosier had exactly the same amount of carries as Mahomes did that yr.

And last year Texas Tech ran the ball slightly more than The U

2015 - DeAndre Washington 233 carries 1492 yds. = 6.4 ypc Patrick Mahomes - 131 carries 456 yds = 3.5 ypc

2017 - Texas Tech 406 carries 1795 yds = 4.42 ypc UM - 391 carries 2071 yds = 5.3 ypc

2017 - Malik Rosier - 391 carries 468 yds = 3.6 ypc

Look at the number of overall plays run and what percentage of them were running plays. They may have had similar number of carries but Tech runs 15-20 more plays a game than Miami does.

Also, the reason we're discussing bringing in a new offensive coordinator is because the offense here, particularly the running game has been sub par. Bringing in someone who's offense averaged almost a yard per carry less than than Miami's struggling 2017 running game isn't an improvement. I want the running game and run blocking to be improved not worsened.

 

[jsy]

Doesnt everyone average that in the B12?

do you honestly think we would gain those yards and avg those points in the big12? I highly doubt it

 

[Heart of The Playmaker]

My number one is briles but I would not mind having Kingsbury here either. dude is a boss on offense and there's no denying that even when he was a player.
Although I think if he is fired he will just become a head coach at another place because there will be some demand

 

[jsy]

a guy like him is too perfect but would never happen
if and its a big if we do get another OC the odds are it will be a yes man who is also a reborn Christian

 

[CFLCane]

do you honestly think we would gain those yards and avg those points in the big12? I highly doubt it

Thats not the argument. The argument is whether Kingsbury can put up those #s in the ACC. Theres a history of P12 and B12 offenses, coordinators, and coaches struggling out of conference.

 

[RyanCane26]

Look at the number of overall plays run and what percentage of them were running plays. They may have had similar number of carries but Tech runs 15-20 more plays a game than Miami does.

You say that like that's a bad thing

 

[jsy]

Thats not the argument. The argument is whether Kingsbury can put up those #s in the ACC. Theres a history of P12 and B12 offenses, coordinators, and coaches struggling out of conference.

the argument is would he produce a better offense than CMR and yes he would because his offensive philosophy is better suited to our players, its easier to recruit players for a spread type attack in south florida

 

[CFLCane]

the argument is would he produce a better offense than CMR and yes he would because his offensive philosophy is better suited to our players, its easier to recruit players for a spread type attack in south florida

We have 0 problem recruiting skill offensive players. Im not arguing whether or not hes better than CMR im just saying theres a history of spread coaches changing conferences and failing miserably.

Anyway..i think kling is young an talented and wouldnt be mad if we hired him im just saying #s from the big 12 domt translate to other conferences style of play.

 

[DTP]

You say that like that's a bad thing

It's not a bad thing but it's not necessarily a good thing either.

Going no huddle can be an advantage since it can tire out a defense and not allow substitutions. However, when your average offensive possession is only a minute, your defense is on the field a lot and doesn't get much rest. People here complain about how Diaz subs too much on defense and that the reserves are the ones always getting beat. Well, imagine having to sub even more because the offense never gives them a couple of minutes to rest. Secondly, it's not always an advantage to run your offense super fast. Specifically if you have a lead late in a game and want to take time off the clock. Offenses that are used to running no huddle 99% of the time struggle when they purposely have to slow down.

There's a reason why the Alabama's Georgia's, Clemsons and Ohio States of the world aren't trying to run 90 plays a game. I would prefer Miami model their team philosophy after the teams that are consistently among the best and not some shoot-out, no defense Big 12 team.

 

[bambam]

a guy like him is too perfect but would never happen
if and its a big if we do get another OC the odds are it will be a yes man who is also a reborn Christian

...now imagine Mike "The Pirate" Leach and CMR trying to gameplan.
I would pay to see that.

 

[RyanCane26]

There's a reason why the Alabama's Georgia's, Clemsons and Ohio States of the world aren't trying to run 90 plays a game. I would prefer Miami model their team philosophy after the teams that are consistently among the best and not some shoot-out, no defense Big 12 team.

All four schools mentioned have a lower time of possession than Texas Tech