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If I had to hire an assistant coach as HC.....

MIA42178 said:
MedleyCane said:
UMFarArcher said:
No more assistants.

You'd think everyone done had a bellyful of that stupidity.
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So what established/elite head-coach would you have in mind?
And don't say Butch because it won't happen.

Schiano?
Who else?
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If Butch were a pipe dream. And it isn't.

With a budget of $3M/yr

Kyle Whittingham
Rich Rod
Chud
Rex Ryan
Schiano
Tuberville
Orgeron
****, Bob Stoops could be available after yesterday hahaha
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With a budget of 3 million dollars, for whom, HC salary?
LOL.
This is the 21st century.
These days you have to look at how much a program is willing
to spend on HC and assistant coach salaries, plus commitment to
front office, facilities,etc....it is much more than HC salary.

I agree with Schiano.
Rich Rod would be awesome, but I seriously doubt UM will do what it takes
to pry him away from that school ($$$$).
Pipe dream.
Orgeron was a failure as HC.
Ryan? not sure how his name is even in the conversation.
Silly stuff.
 
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The Franchise said:
Why is UM limited to $3M/year? Is it part of our ncaa sanctions?
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LOL.
Not sure.
It's a question to be asked to the UM folks who decide on budget.
But the way this school has acted since I've been following them for almost
40 years is not to spend too much money on the football program.
And look at the way they are acting right now, very reluctant to fire a failed coach
probably because of money.
Until their actions change dramatically, I have doubts about UM spending to
win.
 
MedleyCane said:
The Franchise said:
Why is UM limited to $3M/year? Is it part of our ncaa sanctions?
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LOL.
Not sure.
It's a question to be asked to the UM folks who decide on budget.
But the way this school has acted since I've been following them for almost
40 years is not to spend too much money on the football program.
And look at the way they are acting right now, very reluctant to fire a failed coach
probably because of money.
Until their actions change dramatically, I have doubts about UM spending to
win.
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When you factor in the buyout, Golden will have made well over 3M per season during his tenure.
 
I'm not opposed to hiring a coordinator for HC, BUT they have to meet this criteria:

1. They have to had won a title (would've avoided Coker)
2. They have to had a hand in building that championship team (no joining that team that season and winning it ex. Shannon, Chizik at UT)

Look at the new big name coaches and their pedigrees:
Strong (helped build UF with Meyer)
Mullen (same)
Fisher (Saban/LSU)
Malzahn (2011/Auburn)

Following this criteria this leaves only 2 names:

Kirby Smart

To a lesser extent:

Jeremy Pruitt. Yes he was one and done at FSU, but he helped with Alabama/Saban. Not as much as Smart which is why he's lower on the list.
 
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Good stuff U8305!
I am in agreement but I would lean to a coach with roots on the offensive side of the ball.
Reason being, it is easier (and cheaper) to have a HC who has an offensive system in place,
especially if he is running spread offenses.
Nowadays, you have so many different types of spread offenses in college football, but you
also see assistant coaches seamlessly jumping from one spread variation to another.
I would rather have a coach who has that in place, and then allowed him to find
himself some good coaches on the other side of the ball.
I also think this UM program needs to get with the 21st-century. With the kind of local
talent we have in soFla, we would kill with an Oregon type of offense.

U8305 said:
I'm not opposed to hiring a coordinator for HC, BUT they have to meet this criteria:

1. They have to had won a title (would've avoided Coker)
2. They have to had a hand in building that championship team (no joining that team that season and winning it ex. Shannon, Chizik at UT)

Look at the new big name coaches and their pedigrees:
Strong (helped build UF with Meyer)
Mullen (same)
Fisher (Saban/LSU)
Malzahn (2011/Auburn)

Following this criteria this leaves only 2 names:

Kirby Smart

To a lesser extent:

Jeremy Pruitt. Yes he was one and done at FSU, but he helped with Alabama/Saban. Not as much as Smart which is why he's lower on the list.
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The Franchise said:
Why is UM limited to $3M/year? Is it part of our ncaa sanctions?
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It's part of our admin's self inflicted handicapping of our progrum.

If money is not an issue, I could come up w a better list like this one.

Gary Patterson
Art Briles
Rich Rodriguez
Dan Mullen

Would be the four interviewed
 
Speaking of Oregon ... The ONLY existing assistant coach I would hire is Scott Frost.

Kid was smart enough to get into Stanford, and worked under Chip Kelly.

But down the road ... I still think Kiffin and Mushchamp will be MUCH better at their next HC jobs. Saban and Malzhan will give both of those guys balance on the other side of the ball at their next opportunity.
 
If we were forced to hire an assistant coach, I'd hope for one of Jeremy Pruitt, Scott Frost, and Tom Herman.

But we don't have time for that. We need a mother fvcker that's already won some shlt on his own.
 
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MedleyCane said:
The Franchise said:
Why is UM limited to $3M/year? Is it part of our ncaa sanctions?
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LOL.
Not sure.
It's a question to be asked to the UM folks who decide on budget.
But the way this school has acted since I've been following them for almost
40 years is not to spend too much money on the football program.
And look at the way they are acting right now, very reluctant to fire a failed coach
probably because of money.
Until their actions change dramatically, I have doubts about UM spending to
win.
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^^^THIS^^^

Everyone has this "I don't want another coordinator" or "we need an established guy" mentality but 1. whether UM has the ca$h or not they have never shown they are willing to spend big, and 2. coordinators become excellent coaches.

Butch's first HC job was.............UM, and everybody's wanting him back. All Miami needs is a guy who can coach. One that hates losing and loves winning more than than life itself. I don't care where this type comes from or what level he's currently coaching, give him the keys to a vehicle like UM football and we are instant contenders.
 
sitzee said:
The Coach to bring in is Ed Orgeron..

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/coaches/ed-orgeron/

he was the defensive line coach at Miami for 4 seasons (1989-92), where he coached 8 All-Americans, including NFL first rounders Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland and Warren Sapp. In 1988, he was a graduate assistant at Miami, working with the defensive line. During his tenure, the Hurricanes won the national championship twice (1989 and 1991), finished second in the AP poll once (1988) and third twice (1990 and 1992) while appearing in 5 New Year's Day bowls (1989 Orange, 1990 Sugar, 1991 Cotton, 1992 Orange, 1993 Sugar).
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Guy is a flat out recruiting maniac. We would get more than our share - Day 1.
 
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MedleyCane said:
The Franchise said:
Why is UM limited to $3M/year? Is it part of our ncaa sanctions?
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LOL.
Not sure.
It's a question to be asked to the UM folks who decide on budget.
But the way this school has acted since I've been following them for almost
40 years is not to spend too much money on the football program.
And look at the way they are acting right now, very reluctant to fire a failed coach
probably because of money.
Until their actions change dramatically, I have doubts about UM spending to
win.
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If UM doesn't want to spend, then they might as well just shut it down. Michigan never wanted to spend money on football coaches either. Now, they're paying top dollar for Harbaugh because they got desperate and got tired of being worked over by little brother, Michigan State, and their boss, Ohio Taint.

Either UM will commit to hiring a top HC, or they should just shut it the fck down. This bargain basement **** ain't cutting it in this era.
 
The Franchise said:
MedleyCane said:
The Franchise said:
Why is UM limited to $3M/year? Is it part of our ncaa sanctions?
Click to expand...

LOL.
Not sure.
It's a question to be asked to the UM folks who decide on budget.
But the way this school has acted since I've been following them for almost
40 years is not to spend too much money on the football program.
And look at the way they are acting right now, very reluctant to fire a failed coach
probably because of money.
Until their actions change dramatically, I have doubts about UM spending to
win.
Click to expand...

If UM doesn't want to spend, then they might as well just shut it down. Michigan never wanted to spend money on football coaches either. Now, they're paying top dollar for Harbaugh because they got desperate and got tired of being worked over by little brother, Michigan State, and their boss, Ohio Taint.

Either UM will commit to hiring a top HC, or they should just shut it the fck down. This bargain basement **** ain't cutting it in this era.
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In agreement.
But I'm in Missouri ("Show me") mode right now until otherwise proven wrong.
Historically speaking, there is nothing, nothing, in whatever UM has done that they are committed
to having an elite program.
Notice I said elite program, and not necessarily hiring a big-name coach.
I am talking about doing whatever it takes to get that sort of coach on campus.
I am not holding my breath.
 
MIA42178 said:
The Franchise said:
Why is UM limited to $3M/year? Is it part of our ncaa sanctions?
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It's part of our admin's self inflicted handicapping of our progrum.

If money is not an issue, I could come up w a better list like this one.

Gary Patterson
Art Briles
Rich Rodriguez
Dan Mullen

Would be the four interviewed
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Even if money isn't an issue it would be tough to sway some guys from their current jobs. Some guys are happy with $3+M per year and the relative safety of a Mississippi State job where you're a hero if you win 10 games. Briles has stated repeatedly that he'll never leave Baylor.

I think we could lure a guy like Rich Rod because he knows he could absolutely dominate college football with the offensive weapons he could accumulate 5 miles from his office in Coral Gables. I get the feeling he'd love to make a championship run, and I don't think he'll be able to do that at Arizona.
 
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