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If D'Eriq King is the #1 NFL draft pick next year...

TimeB0mb said:
what does it mean about the Canes record for the season?

King currently has the fourth(!) best odds to be the #1 overall pick in 2021.
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D'Eriq King has the 4th best odds to be the No. 1 pick in 2021

Could D'Eriq King be the top overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft? The betting odds believe there is a chance.
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1. Lawrence
2. Fields
3. Sewell
4. King

If King IS the #1 pick, I think that means the Canes went 11-1, won the ACC Championship game, and made the playoffs. Top 5 finish overall. I don't think I could reasonably explain King being taken over Lawrence unless either Miami beats Clemson straight up in the ACC Championship game, or Clemson slips up a couple times and doesn't win the ACC Atlantic Division (so Miami plays another Atlantic team in the ACC Championship).
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I have no problem with this thread/conversation. It's a lot more realistic and fun to talk about than most of the stuff being said on here lately.
 
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TimeB0mb said:
Maybe so. But I also saw a nobody named Joe Burrow throw 5 TDs in the national championship game, while Lawrence put up a goose egg. Zero passing TDs. Again- this isnt fanboy TimeB0mb dreaming that King has a great year- this is based on a legit sportsbook that has him 4th. There has to be a reason for that.

Suppose Miami meets Clemson in the ACC championship game (not unreasonable- it's happened before). Greg Rosseau (6th best overall odds) is unblockable. Again- not an outrageous thought given that he's already proven to be a monster. Phillips, Roche, and Rosseau are making Lawrence miserable. Again- not an insane thought. Lashlee's offense is living up to its billing, King throws for 3 TDs and rushes for 2 TDs. Lawrence throws 1 TD (still better than his national championship performance). King matches his 2018 numbers and has thrown 50 TDs by this point in the season (which he did in arguably a conference as good, if not better than the ACC). Miami beats Clemson straight up and makes the playoffs. In that scenario, you still think a 50 TD, ACC championship winning King winning a head to head game against Lawrence still gets picked behind him? That seems to be far more implausible than anything I've written.
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Yes, Lawrence will still go before King. Comparing Burrow's last season to anything King does has to be tempered by the fact Burrow, at 6'4" and 220 is still a prototype from a size and athleticism for today's NFL. Lawrence even more so at 6'6" 225, his cannon arm and the speed to run past a defense full of NFL draft picks against Ohio State.

King can't change the fact he's probably around 5'10" and would have to pass a monster. Lawrence is a transcendent, once in a generation player.


He's going #1 next season.
 
g8rh8rMD said:
I have no problem with this thread/conversation. It's a lot more realistic and fun to talk about than most of the stuff being said on here lately.
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Thanks- that was my intent. I saw some positive press about the Canes and thought it would be fun to discuss what it might mean for the season (could mean great season or it could be one of those rare seasons where a QB has a great year but it doesn't translate to the team record). But I forgot about the mopes that cant miss an opportunity to crap on the team instead of discussing what the casino odds for King mean for the season overall.
 
Joe is also 6'3 and D'eriq is allegedly 5'11 but looks every bit of 5'9. Crazier things have happened, and in the day and age of kids being influenced by what they see, nothing would thrill me more than to see King go 1st overall as this will give us QB recruiting momentum. But, it's highly unlikely. Hopefully he'll just get at least a 2nd round grade w/ our lack of history, lately, w/ QB's at the next level.
 
Go Canes!! said:
Yes, Lawrence will still go before King. Comparing Burrow's last season to anything King does has to be tempered by the fact Burrow, at 6'4" and 220 is still a prototype from a size and athleticism for today's NFL. Lawrence even more so at 6'6" 225, his cannon arm and the speed to run past a defense full of NFL draft picks against Ohio State.

King can't change the fact he's probably around 5'10" and would have to pass a monster. Lawrence is a transcendent, once in a generation player.


He's going #1 next season.
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You are missing the forest for the trees.
I don't think it matters if he is 1st overall or 4th overall in line with the odds- question is what King getting drafted that high means for the season. But I have to ask about your confidence about Lawrence- you think he goes 1st overall even if he suffers the same injury as Tua? We just saw the surefire no doubt #1 pick, playing behind one of the best OLs in CFB, dislocate his hip playing against the juggernaut that is Mississippi State. Football is a tough game- Lawrence has already been knocked out of games at least twice (against Syracuse and Ohio State). Miami's pass rush is going to be one of the best in CFB.
 
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LuCane said:
Not necessarily because of this hypothetical, which I assume is for entertainment, but I think this fanbase has officially allowed its expectations to go wild w/r/t King.
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Will King play next year if this season gets cancelled?

I think that without King, Manny will never even have a 9-4 or 10-3 type season.
 
I would say even if he’s the 3rd QB taken and in the 1st round. We had a monster season. Ran the table and lost to clemson in acccg. Then rebounded with a great bowl game.
 
423Hurricane said:
If King is top 5 in the Heisman vote I’d be thrilled. That would mean he and the team had a great season.
He’s an outstanding young man and I wish him all the best no matter what.
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Actually, Paul Hornung won the 1956 Heisman trophy while playing on a 2-8 team.

Granted he was an ND player, and it's pretty doubtful that a Miami player (or a player on any team not named ND) could do the same thing.
 
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TimeB0mb said:
what does it mean about the Canes record for the season?

King currently has the fourth(!) best odds to be the #1 overall pick in 2021.
247sports.com

D'Eriq King has the 4th best odds to be the No. 1 pick in 2021

Could D'Eriq King be the top overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft? The betting odds believe there is a chance.
247sports.com 247sports.com

1. Lawrence
2. Fields
3. Sewell
4. King

If King IS the #1 pick, I think that means the Canes went 11-1, won the ACC Championship game, and made the playoffs. Top 5 finish overall. I don't think I could reasonably explain King being taken over Lawrence unless either Miami beats Clemson straight up in the ACC Championship game, or Clemson slips up a couple times and doesn't win the ACC Atlantic Division (so Miami plays another Atlantic team in the ACC Championship).
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Outstanding observation.
 
I have checked out some of his games on YouTube and he definitely is explosive and can get you big plays as much on his runs as his passes. However, he still seems to me an exceptional athlete playing qb as opposed to just being an exceptional qb. Not to say he is a finished product, but he can use some improvement, especially in his accuracy.
 
TimeB0mb said:
what does it mean about the Canes record for the season?

King currently has the fourth(!) best odds to be the #1 overall pick in 2021.
247sports.com

D'Eriq King has the 4th best odds to be the No. 1 pick in 2021

Could D'Eriq King be the top overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft? The betting odds believe there is a chance.
247sports.com 247sports.com

1. Lawrence
2. Fields
3. Sewell
4. King

If King IS the #1 pick, I think that means the Canes went 11-1, won the ACC Championship game, and made the playoffs. Top 5 finish overall. I don't think I could reasonably explain King being taken over Lawrence unless either Miami beats Clemson straight up in the ACC Championship game, or Clemson slips up a couple times and doesn't win the ACC Atlantic Division (so Miami plays another Atlantic team in the ACC Championship).
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3 things

1) It should be rephrased to 1st round pick because Trevor is a lock to be the No.1 pick just like Andrew Luck was back in 2012.

2) It mean that his arm probably got stronger because his arm is good but not great AND he convinced scouts he’s more Kyler Murray/Russell Wilson than Braxton Miller.

3) He probably finished the year in NY and we went undefeated.
 
Page305 said:
Burrow had weapons around him
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If that was the case, why didn't Burrow even make the list for possible #1 picks in May 2019? He was such a distant longshot he wasn't given odds. One would think that if everyone recognized that LSU had all those weapons, Burrow would have been somewhere on the list. Fact is that you are looking at the results and conveniently ignoring that very few people thought LSU was championship caliber at this time last year (I can't think of a single "expert" that predicted LSU destroying every team in CFB and Burrow setting records).

What was the X factor that changed everything? It wasn't a players- it was the offensive coordinator. Joe Brady's offense is what turned LSU into a national contender. Miami now has an OC that had one of the highest scoring offenses in CFB. Miami has plenty of offensive weapons, you just haven't seen it because we've had a ****ty offense for a long long time.
 
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Zbrod95 said:
3 things

1) It should be rephrased to 1st round pick because Trevor is a lock to be the No.1 pick just like Andrew Luck was back in 2012.

2) It mean that his arm probably got stronger because his arm is good but not great AND he convinced scouts he’s more Kyler Murray/Russell Wilson than Braxton Miller.

3) He probably finished the year in NY and we went undefeated.
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Why should I rephrase it? I didn't make up his being considered the #1 overall pick.
That is from professional bookmakers. Those guys tend to know what they are doing. I think they see a lot of similarities in between the pairing of King/Lashlee and the combo of Burrows/Brady. I doubt you considered Coach O to be a master tactician and that LSUs championship season was in the cards. A key difference is that in May 2019 Burrows was basically a journeyman transfer QB who didnt look like he would even get drafted.

D'Eriq King is the first QB in FBS history to rush for touchdown in 15 straight contests, breaking previous record held by Florida's Tim Tebow. In 2018 King set the AAC single season TD record (despite missing the last 2.5 games with an injury) and led the nation in points responsible for per game with an average of 27.5 (four points ahead of the No 2 spot shared by Heisman finalists Kyler Murray and Dwayne Haskins).

If FSU had landed King and Lashlee, 99.9% of posters would be jizzing their pants over it and saying "Now that's what a real HC does to win. FSU just turned themselves into instant title contenders." Every other thread would be about FSU running a "real football program" while Diaz cant find his *** with both hands. Miami fans have battered wife syndrome, so King/Lashlee doesn't change anything for Miami. No offense but many of the fans on here are just big ol' mopey vaginas. "Durr... its deluthional to think Miami can ever be good again! First pick- no way guysm! That's cwazy talk. King stinkth! Diaz is doodoo. Waaaaa I wish I rooted for Alabama"
 
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TimeB0mb said:
Why should I rephrase it? I didn't make up his being considered the #1 overall pick.
That is from professional bookmakers. Those guys tend to know what they are doing. I think they see a lot of similarities in between the pairing of King/Lashlee and the combo of Burrows/Brady. I doubt you considered Coach O to be a master tactician and that LSUs season was in the cards. A key difference is that in May 2019 Burrows was basically a journeyman transfer QB who didnt look like he would even get drafted.

D'Eriq King is the first QB in FBS history to rush for touchdown in 15 straight contests, breaking previous record held by Florida's Tim Tebow, in 2018 he set the AAC single season TD record (despite missing the last 2.5 games with an injury) and led the nation in points responsible for per game with an average of 27.5 (four points ahead of the No 2 spot shared by Heisman finalists Kyler Murray and Dwayne Haskins).

If FSU had landed King and Lashlee, 99.9% of posters would be jizzing their pants over it and saying "Now that's what a real HC does to win. FSU just turned themselves into instant title contenders." Every other thread would be about FSU running a "real football program" while Diaz cant find his *** with both hands. Miami fans have battered wife syndrome, so King/Lashlee doesn't change anything for Miami.
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I know YOU didn’t, I was just making a general statement. All of what you said is true but do you know how many QBs break records and still go in the 6th round or go Undrafted? A ton. Like I said, for D’Eriq to even be considered in first round territory he has to prove he’s more Kyler than he is Braxton Miller. That’s not a lie nor an insult because Braxton was a pretty good college QB but he wasn’t a pro prospect at QB just like D’Eriq. Now can D’Eriq prove that he is an NFL prospect at QB? Of course! If Jalen did so can he but he’s battling a giant hill to get there even though he’s an amazing playmaker.
 
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