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I’m just trying to make the same comparison you are. If Brady is the GOAT of this generation, I’m saying put Lawrence in the same scenario and he’ll have similar success.
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I’m just trying to make the same comparison you are. If Brady is the GOAT of this generation, I’m saying put Lawrence in the same scenario and he’ll have similar success.
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I see you like safe bets.Oy vey, we're still on this, are we? If Trevor Lawrence has anywhere near the NFL career that Tom Brady had, come and see me in twenty years and I'll buy you a beer. ****, drinks are on me for the rest of the night.
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Apparently, you and I define "generation" differently.
Bottom line, I don't care if you think the guy is good, I'm not interested in challenging that point. "Transcendent, once in a generation players", by definition, should come around once in a generation. It shouldn't matter who their head coach is. You're saying this guy is going to come out into the NFL next year and change the game and make Brees, Ben, Wilson, Lamar, and Mahomes look pedestrian the moment he steps on the field.
I'm saying chill and stop with the slurping. It's the definition of hyperbole to make that claim, except you seem to actually believe and mean it when you say it.
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Even if we went 15-0 and beat either of those for the title, they would go ahead of King.
I'm just happy we have a QB that is regarded that highly.
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I think he'll be the best QB in football in 3-4 years. I like the John Elway comparisons but he's faster and more athletic. I think he's the best prospect in 15 years plus. Only talked the Brady comparison cause you brought it up.
As a true freshman and sophomore (26 starts , 25-1), at 18 and 19 years old, he's thrown 66 TDs and 12 INTs. Didn't throw a pick in his last eight games. He's throttled the highest levels of competition multiple times. All that while just scratching the surface of what he's capable of.
Time will tell.
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Time will tell. I think it's more likely he's peaked than scratching the surface. He's a **** fine college QB, but I'm not even sure he's the best in the last 5-10 years, much less 40 (which is what should define generational talent, there can't be 6 "generational talents" in the life span of a typical human being).
Like I said, man, if he proves you right, come find me in 20 years and I'll buy your drinks all night while we rehash the years and where we went right and wrong.
Not gonna lie, though, it's pretty ******* irritating reading the slurping over a clum$on player on here. If he were a Cane, I'd be right there beside you to jerk the guy off, but please take off your tiggers footie pajamas when you step on CIS.
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It’s odd to me how high Vegas is valuing King/UM (Heisman, W/L, draft slot) considering how absolutely dead we are to prognosticators almost everywhere else. I can’t remember a season where both ends were this polar.what does it mean about the Canes record for the season?
King currently has the fourth(!) best odds to be the #1 overall pick in 2021.
D'Eriq King has the 4th best odds to be the No. 1 pick in 2021
Could D'Eriq King be the top overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft? The betting odds believe there is a chance.247sports.com
1. Lawrence
2. Fields
3. Sewell
4. King
If King IS the #1 pick, I think that means the Canes went 11-1, won the ACC Championship game, and made the playoffs. Top 5 finish overall. I don't think I could reasonably explain King being taken over Lawrence unless either Miami beats Clemson straight up in the ACC Championship game, or Clemson slips up a couple times and doesn't win the ACC Atlantic Division (so Miami plays another Atlantic team in the ACC Championship).
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It is exceedingly odd. I cant figure out the rationale other than the wise guys ran the numbers and to everyone's surprise it indicates King will have a big year. Supposing that this was the discussion last year and oddsmakers had Tate Martell as having 4th highest odds to be a 1st overall pick. I could see the logic- Martell is a recognizable player, he was on a TV series, his girlfriend is an Instagram star, he was handpicked by Meyer, Miami had a new HC and was 1 year removed from an electrifying season, etc. It would have been easy money for Vegas. The hype machine would be in gear and casual fans would be induced to bet on Martell just out of popularity. But that logic doesn't make sense with King. Most casual fans dont know him. G5 School, only played 4 games. Miami was an embarrassment last year. Diaz is already on the hot seat. Hyping up the Canes QB as having the 4th best odds of being the #1 pick isnt moving the needle. Casual bettors arent going to put money on a relatively unknown QB on an unimpressive team. Giving him 14:1 odds just causes most people to scratch their heads.
So if instead let's say they gave King 1000:1 odds (still probably better than what Burrow would have received as he didnt even merit odds), you might have lots of people say, "F^ck it. Why not. Burrow came from nowhere so I'll put some money on this nobody for the payout." I think that the lower the odds for King, the fewer people will bet on him. I don't know anyone that would put 100 on King to win 1400. I'd bet on Rosseau at that amount because is the unquestionably the best pass rush DE in CFB and there is a chance that the team picking 1st doesn't need a QB. I see that as a possibility. But King getting better odds than Rosseau? Doesn't add up.
The only reason that I can fathom for King getting those odds is that its defensive move by the wise guys. The casinos are in the business of making money. If behind the scenes the oddsmakers did their homework and all signs point to King having a whopper of a year, then they cant set the odds too high (like 1000:1) because if lots of casual bettors decide to bite at that number and King does end up the 1st pick (as their analysis suggests), they will go bankrupt. But we also know they probably aren't going to get any suckers or even Canes homers betting on King at 14:1 since most people have never heard of D'Eriq King or seen him play. Few fans know of Lashlee either. Miami has zero hype this year. So the only explanation left for King getting such low odds is that the bookmakers have analyzed the data and it indicates King is in for a special season. As for whether that translates into Miami victories- now that's the real question, isnt it?
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In case I didn't make it clear in my hundred other messages in this thread- I dont care if he goes 1st or 101st. The SPORTSBOOKS- not me- are giving him the 4th best odds of being picked 1st. Again- I didn't say he was going first overall. The professional oddsmakers are giving King 14:1 odds - he's only behind Lawrence, Fields, and Sewell. He's ahead of Rosseau and a bunch of other much higher profile players. If miracle of miracles he beats the odds and goes 1st, the question is what it means for the season. If he stinks and goes last, what's new? Its like most other seasons in the last 2 decades
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That's really F'ing funny. Still laughing as I type this. Just picturing it in my head and hoping King stayed home for the draft.
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Not legitimately or on a national scale. He had a good performance and the announcers way overplayed their hand. It was like it was the first time they had seen him, maybe they forgot the past (which none of us as fans did), and just went with what they saw that game. Funny thing is, I can't for the life of me remember what game it was.
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Ha I hear ya. I don’t remember either.
Just seems people are so desperate to create content they throw just about anything out there
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If he is a 1st rounder we won 10 games. If he is a top 10 pick we won 11. if hes top 5 we won 12. If he goes 2 after sunshine and right before greg we made the natty
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2021 NFL Draft: Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields atop preseason Top 100 Big Board, receivers littered throughout
Two prized quarterbacks are at No. 1 and No. 2, then a freak offensive tackle and loads of wide receivers
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Their literally the only ones who even have him in the 1st freaking round, they're hoping to catch a bunch of morons to look at +1400 and miami and make some easy cash
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2021 NFL Draft: Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields atop preseason Top 100 Big Board, receivers littered throughout
Two prized quarterbacks are at No. 1 and No. 2, then a freak offensive tackle and loads of wide receivers
2021 NFL Mock Draft: Way-too-early first round predictions
The 2020 NFL Draft has come and gone. Naturally, we’re tempted to gaze into the future and wonder how things will shake out a year from now. The 2021 draft has been
NFL News, Scores, Standings & Stats | FOX Sports
Get NFL news, scores, stats, standings & more for your favorite teams and players -- plus watch highlights and live games! All on FoxSports.com.
2021 NFL Mock Draft – WalterFootball
2021 NFL Mock Draft: Matt Miller's Way-Too-Early Predictions
It's a tradition as old as my time at Bleacher Report to immediately feed the need for an early mock draft as soon as the current draft year ends. This year is no different with a dangerously early look at the 2021 class...
Their literally the only ones who even have him in the 1st freaking round, they're hoping to catch a bunch of morons to look at +1400 and miami and make some easy cash
That theory only makes sense if you think CFB fans still cared about Miami. I suppose you also believe Miami is still a program that most fans see as a national title contender. Riiiiiight. We aren't Ohio State with 500k alumni, where some homers would throw money at any Buckeye with odds. No one is giving Miami a 2nd thought and no cares about D'Eriq King, so there arent any suckers. It makes no obvious sense for the bookmakers to give him such low odds, but then again the oddsmakers aren't a bunch of internet slapd!cks that just determine the odds based on how mopey fans feel at a given time. They actually look at data. I suspect the reason King has the 4th best odds is that they are looking at Lashlee's offense at SMU being 6th overall in PPG and a certain QB being #1 in PPG in 2018. My eyes arent so good. Could you read that first name to me?
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Yea we can only hope he’s half as good as any of them...