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Run more defensive fronts. Some 3-4 looks, some Wide 9 looks, SOMETHING! I feel like we only use 2 defensive fronts most of the game. We did not do ANYTHING to stop UNC's outside runs which opened up their middle run game IMO. And no I'm not just talking about a pass rushing packages, I'm talking about some fronts to help stop the run especially to help set the edge since we're so bad at doing that from our basic 4-3 alignment.

It weird though because Manny ran some 3-4 front looks at Mississippi State but here he ONLY does a basic 4-3 alignment. Teams like Clemson or Michigan, some of the elite defenses that run the 4-3, has different looks and fronts. Manny runs the same front down after down making him so predictable in terms of what the offense is going to see. He does nothing to confuse the offensive line's blocking assignment on run plays.

I think Manny needs to also look at last year's Penn State and TCU on defense especially the way their LBers are coached. They run the SAME EXACT shoot gap 4-3 scheme and Penn State finished 17th in rush defense (119 per) and TCU finished 4th (99 per) last year. He need to look at how Penn State and TCU, who runs the same exact scheme, are able to keep the edge on their defenses.
 
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Yea we gave up 156 and 215 rushing yards against the only two teams with a pulse. Anyone who watched the LSU game and the UNC game and doesn't see issues with our run defense isn't being real with themselves. The thing that makes me angry is it's not like were getting pushed around most of it is simply improper gap integrity.
 
Doesn't really matter what front you utilize if you use sound base rules.

I believe you should ALWAYS have a defender on the LOS setting the edge.
If the offense comes out with a TE and your DE is inside that TE, and you have nobody immediately setting the edge, you better check to something that will put a defender outside that TE. (usually can just walk the Sam LB down)

Not every DC does this. I see it all the time. A DC will call Quarters coverage, the offense will come out with a TE on the LOS, and they have NOBODY over the TE to set the edge. I asked a college DC about this and he told me that they have the Strong Safety set the edge. (from 10 yards away?!)

We line-up without an immediate edge player all the time.
 
I don't think its about alignment. I think its the fact the the DL can pick whichever gap they choose to create havoc, and that leaves some gaps un manned. No D was all about gap integrity and it was useless. The thing i don't get is, in 2016 we didn't have the problems we have in stopping the run....generally.
 
Coach Macho said:
Doesn't really matter what front you utilize if you use sound base rules.

I believe you should ALWAYS have a defender on the LOS setting the edge.
If the offense comes out with a TE and your DE is inside that TE, and you have nobody immediately setting the edge, you better check to something that will put a defender outside that TE. (usually can just walk the Sam LB down)

Not every DC does this. I see it all the time. A DC will call Quarters coverage, the offense will come out with a TE on the LOS, and they have NOBODY over the TE to set the edge. I asked a college DC about this and he told me that they have the Strong Safety set the edge. (from 10 yards away?!)

We line-up without an immediate edge player all the time.
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Anyone who questions this, doesn't know Defensive FB....
 
For the experts on defensive formations, anyone know why we don’t use the wide 9? How common is it in college? Seems like it would make sense with the athletes we have.

My main critique on Manny is Knowles high usage and the odd substitutions especially of the LB’s
 
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TheChosenOne said:
Those are bloated numbers because of FIU, Savannah State, and Toledo....
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We aren't the only team who has played cupcakes.

And we also have the LSU game in there. I don't think any of our numbers are really over inflated because the average CFB team has had similar.
 
Our DEs and LBs consistently are lined up too far inside the offensive formation and thus are immediately out of position to set the edge. Lots of teams then motion a WR, TE, or FB to make their advantage even greater against us.
 
Coach Macho said:
Doesn't really matter what front you utilize if you use sound base rules.

I believe you should ALWAYS have a defender on the LOS setting the edge.
If the offense comes out with a TE and your DE is inside that TE, and you have nobody immediately setting the edge, you better check to something that will put a defender outside that TE. (usually can just walk the Sam LB down)

Not every DC does this. I see it all the time. A DC will call Quarters coverage, the offense will come out with a TE on the LOS, and they have NOBODY over the TE to set the edge. I asked a college DC about this and he told me that they have the Strong Safety set the edge. (from 10 yards away?!)

We line-up without an immediate edge player all the time.
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Which one of our DE's is and edge setter? Joe Jackson and Garvin aren't the guys. Are we scheming to fit our personnel?
 
Fill gaps and run blitz when the opportunities present themselves. I don't care what we run scheme wise. Stop the dumb *** slow blitzes exposing our d, fill holes, set edges and we can run whatever that little troll wants to.
 
OP is so far off.

We play 3 man fronts literally every defensive series. On third down the entire season we play a 3 man front. In fact I think we do it TOO much.

As far as our issues stopping the run; when you overload zone blitz, two things can happen.

1) you overload to the play side and blow it up in the backfield

2) you overload to the wrong side and the RB has no one in front of him for miles.

With Diaz you will get games like ND and UNC which are unsustainable video game defensive perfomances.

But in order to get those games, you will also get the Pitt/Clemson/Wisky games where we cant stop anyone.

Needless to say, Im not a fan.
 
My main critique on Manny is Knowles high usage and the odd substitutions especially of the LB’s[/QUOTE]

🤬🤯😤😏
 
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Coach Macho said:
Doesn't really matter what front you utilize if you use sound base rules.

I believe you should ALWAYS have a defender on the LOS setting the edge.
If the offense comes out with a TE and your DE is inside that TE, and you have nobody immediately setting the edge, you better check to something that will put a defender outside that TE. (usually can just walk the Sam LB down)

Not every DC does this. I see it all the time. A DC will call Quarters coverage, the offense will come out with a TE on the LOS, and they have NOBODY over the TE to set the edge. I asked a college DC about this and he told me that they have the Strong Safety set the edge. (from 10 yards away?!)

We line-up without an immediate edge player all the time.
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That why I want him to run more 3-4 fronts.

Look at this game it Manny's Miss St defense from 2015. Manny ran a 4-3 front for 3 QTRs and got GASHED BADLY. So what did Manny do in the 4th QTR? He went to a 3-4 front basically running the same scheme and LSU had no where near the success they had running the ball. LSU was doing things the same things UNC was doing (in different forms) in terms of having 2 backs in the back field, heavy TE sets, etc.

 
TheChosenOne said:
Those are bloated numbers because of FIU, Savannah State, and Toledo....
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They’re actually not. Everybody else plays cupcakes the first few weeks too. Look at Bama! Our best TFL’s came against UNC (14). We had 11 TFL’s against LSU.
 
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We run 3 man front most of the time on 3rd and long. Jackson, Garvin and Willis. Pickney is the 4th rusher. Then you mix in Shaq and Carter on different types of blitzes.
 
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