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Canedude08 said:
Actually not. You think Johnny Cochran(RIP) was running around his house talking like that? No, I'm willing to bet that the ONLY time you hear someone with an IQ above 70 using that word is to describe someone that is living up to that negative stereotype. Either that, or someone is rehashing a story, or something of that sort. Intelligent people, with an understanding of the history of that word aren't throwing it out casually, just because.

I'm still laughing about how merely not being an idiot is now "Anti-Black". I'm not Black because I don't condone stupid behavior, oh well. Oh my feelings are hurt because some random idiot on a message board doesn't believe I'm Black. Guess Malcolm, MLK and legions of other proud Black men weren't Black either. You think Malcolm would be cool with someone acting like that at a sporting event?


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Did you grow up in an all white neighborhood or some ****? You must not know many black people with an IQ above 70. The only black people I know that don't use the word in private are the guys who don't want to let it slip at work or the nerdy *** fvck boys like yourself that got bullied everyday in the hood and now want to make themself feel better about them self so they act like they are better then everybody in the hood even though their college boy job only pays 100k a year.
 
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Canedude08 said:
Actually not. You think Johnny Cochran(RIP) was running around his house talking like that? No, I'm willing to bet that the ONLY time you hear someone with an IQ above 70 using that word is to describe someone that is living up to that negative stereotype. Either that, or someone is rehashing a story, or something of that sort. Intelligent people, with an understanding of the history of that word aren't throwing it out casually, just because.

I'm still laughing about how merely not being an idiot is now "Anti-Black". I'm not Black because I don't condone stupid behavior, oh well. Oh my feelings are hurt because some random idiot on a message board doesn't believe I'm Black. Guess Malcolm, MLK and legions of other proud Black men weren't Black either. You think Malcolm would be cool with someone acting like that at a sporting event?


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I'm not talking about one fan's questionable behavior, I'm answering the question YOU posed about intellect and use of a particular word. Just because you can't comprehend something that occurs outside your social sphere, the existence of that event shouldn't require your familiarity or validation to be factual. This is not even a conversation to be had, IMO, but some people of certain persuasions believe if they didn't see, hear, invent or discover something, that it doesn't exist.

The fact that you feel entitled to the name of a certain "educated black person that uses that word on a regular basis" suggests an ethnocentricity also reserved for people of that particular persuasion, and i'll leave it at that.
 
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Cane Dynasty said:
Boondocks is one of the greatest shows in entertainment history.
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Someone should try to dub what dude said in OPs video with Riley's voice hahaha. Thugnificant can do the background music and a pimp named slickback can be his hype man

And i also thank all of the culture warriors out there. Last few days when the thread has been at the top of the page i've watched the video time and time again. Still laughing hysterically.....
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Him being a black had everything to do with what he was saying and the word he was using. As I said before, I’m not in the business of telling grown men what they can and can’t say, and if there are consequences, then he’s a grown man, he’ll have to deal with it. I’m also not in the business of telling other people how to live their lives, or what their morality should be.

He wasn’t there as a representative of the Miami hurricanes football team, its fans, or the university, he was there as a fan. Why does everything a single person have to be a measure of representation for the actual University. It is NOT. It’s just one fan doing his thing and doing what he wants to do.

As far as his language, what he was saying, and how he delivers it, I guess you must not watch games with a very diverse group. I won’t get into it, but next time try to watch a game and mix it up with some people different than yourself..

Don’t overcomplicate things.
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When you are in the stadium, as a fan, you do represent the organization you are cheering for. In the modern world, where everything and anything is recorded for posterity, it's even more true. In the eighties, people could do crazy crap, and unless a TV camera captured it, you could deny it ever happened. You can't do that today. There's a reason why companies have social media policies that are **** near text book sized, it's because a reputation can be ruined within sixty seconds, especially if you do stupid crap. A classic example of this would be Harley Barber. She was a girl at the University of Alabama that went on a racist rant on social media. She not only got expelled from her sorority, she was expelled from the University. She didn't make the rant in public, but it was so abhorrent, so vile, that organizations felt the need to do something. Then again, when you don't have much to lose, you feel enabled to do stupid crap. You think someone with a career, and something at stake would have behaved like that? I doubt it.

Miami doesn't need that nonsense, it's something that doesn't reflect well on the University. There isn't any rational reason why anyone would support such abhorrent behavior. It was a grown man being a drunken(We hope) jackass to people that he knew couldn't do anything to him. It's like the dumbass I saw in Tallahassee a couple of years ago picking fights with FSU fans after Miami lost. It was embarrassing, it was stupid, it didn't do anything besides serve as another example of a Miami "Fan" making an *** of themselves.
 
daytonacane said:
Canes2082, read carefully, I stated that "I" did not "feel the need to join them."....did not lecture others how to act, only my opinion if they choose to act this way and I am entitled to my opinion. I could personally care less what others do/say other than the fact that it gives the University a bad name. There are A-Hole fans on every team in the nation. Thus, if YOU prefer to act like this guy did.....go for it. I then have the right to my opinion to consider you an A-hole. Hey, I used to sit in the WEZ of the OB during the 80's thus, obviously am desensitized but just simply think people who act this way degrade themselves, and give the University a bad name. I love 'Canes football but also love the University I attended.
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This is where the divide is, most of the people sticking up for this don't have that tie to the University. For many, the University of Miami is just some football program they root for. It's not a place where lives are changed, where great things happen off the field. Therefore, someone behaving like a jackass doesn't bother them as much.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Did you grow up in an all white neighborhood or some ****? You must not know many black people with an IQ above 70. The only black people I know that don't use the word in private are the guys who don't want to let it slip at work or the nerdy *** fvck boys like yourself that got bullied everyday in the hood and now want to make themself feel better about them self so they act like they are better then everybody in the hood even though their college boy job only pays 100k a year.
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I grew up in a diverse neighborhood with successful people of all races and creeds. I don't apologize for having parents intelligent enough to not raise me in the hood, so I can get my "Street" card. By the way, if you really think intelligent, driven black people are throwing around "F**k N***as" at home like no one's business, you must have limited experience dealing with rational people. I doubt even someone like Lebron James, who came from that world is consistently throwing that word around at home around his children.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
And those richt drug dealers and assorted scumbags are extremely intelligent. You sound like a broke boy who is jealous of people richer than him. I know black teachers that use the word too. Kardashian is smart enough to market herself. Lebron had the work ethic to get to that level. Many people are as talented as Bron, but they don't train every single day to get their. You don't have the dedication or discipline to get anyhwere close to Lebron and neither do most of those scientists you talked about before.
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This.

Lebron James is wicked smart. He knows exactly what he’s doing, and has a long term plan for everything. He knows he’s not winning another ring as a Laker, at least not the first season. He’s thinking beyond basketball. Los Angeles provides business and entertainment opportunities he would not have anywhere else. And he’s getting paid $154M to pursue them.

You know why you never hear about Lebron in trouble with women, fights at a club, drugs, or bankruptcy? He thinks long term.

Very smart man. Would have been a success without basketball. Sports only gave him a door walk through.
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
I totally disagree with this premise, therefore anything that comes after it is a relevant to me.

He is not representing the University, he is representing himself. That’s just insane talk.
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You can pretend that isn't the case, but guess what? When we make jokes about the ignorant hillbillies that populate the WVU fanbase, we aren't saying "Well, that's one guy, the rest of the fanbase isn't represented by that dude". You're part of the group, you get painted with that brush. That's why organizations have a problem with that kind of behavior, it reflects on them, it's just not a good look period.
 
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Canedude08 said:
I grew up in a diverse neighborhood with successful people of all races and creeds. I don't apologize for having parents intelligent enough to not raise me in the hood, so I can get my "Street" card. By the way, if you really think intelligent, driven black people are throwing around "F**k N***as" at home like no one's business, you must have limited experience dealing with rational people. I doubt even someone like Lebron James, who came from that world is consistently throwing that word around at home around his children.
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I am not asking you to apologize. My point is you don't know **** and you just proved it. And didn't you just try to make the point that being wealthy has nothing to do with intelligence? So I guess the fact they can afford to not live in the projects is not a good indicator of intellgience. So you know 5 black people and they don't use the N word. Congratulations. Your sample size means your little case study is straight bull****. I actually know hundreds of black people from poor people living in the slums to wealthy college professors and doctors to loaded private equity and investment bankers. They all either use the word or would use it if they weren't afraid of letting it slip at work. Now if I wanted to know what words middle class white people used at home then I would ask you because I am sure you would have a large sample size to make your point, but when it comes to black people you don't know ****.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
And those richt drug dealers and assorted scumbags are extremely intelligent. You sound like a broke boy who is jealous of people richer than him. I know black teachers that use the word too. Kardashian is smart enough to market herself. Lebron had the work ethic to get to that level. Many people are as talented as Bron, but they don't train every single day to get their. You don't have the dedication or discipline to get anyhwere close to Lebron and neither do most of those scientists you talked about before.
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So, selling death to others, knowing full well you are most likely going to end up in prison or dead is intelligent? Yep, that's really bright. I guess generations of mafia figures, most of whom didn't live to collect Social Security were geniuses, just because they made some money? It's obvious that you have little understanding of what intelligence entails. Plenty of morons get rich, still doesn't mean they know anything. Remember, there are NFL players that can't read the morning paper, yet are wealthy. Floyd Mayweather has a unique skillset that allowed him to make hundreds of millions of dollars, he can't read a single sentence in any contract that he's ever signed.

Kim Kardashian didn't market diddly squat, she's a symptom of a larger disease: There are plenty of dolts willing to follow someone that provides no value whatsoever. It's "Idiocracy" in real time.
 
Canedude08 said:
It's pretty sad that being intelligent is some kind of "Anti Black" stance. Then again, when you accept the low expectations placed upon you in society, this is what happens. I'm willing to bet that Barack Obama isn't running around his kitchen screaming about "Fu** N***as". I'm willing to bet that someone like John Lewis isn't going to be taped at the Wizards game taunting people. Oh that's right, those are intelligent, rational black people. They aren't underemployed, blissfully ignorant hood cats that think that a football game is an excuse to make an *** of yourself.
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What? Obama is my ninja so I know he says my ninja..NINJA!! Tighten up “brohamus” 🤣🤣🤣

My man you need to have a coke & a smile and sit your tail down.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Him being a black had everything to do with what he was saying and the word he was using. As I said before, I’m not in the business of telling grown men what they can and can’t say, and if there are consequences, then he’s a grown man, he’ll have to deal with it. I’m also not in the business of telling other people how to live their lives, or what their morality should be.

He wasn’t there as a representative of the Miami hurricanes football team, its fans, or the university, he was there as a fan. Why does everything a single person have to be a measure of representation for the actual University. It is NOT. It’s just one fan doing his thing and doing what he wants to do.

As far as his language, what he was saying, and how he delivers it, I guess you must not watch games with a very diverse group. I won’t get into it, but next time try to watch a game and mix it up with some people different than yourself..

Don’t overcomplicate things.
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I have done my best to try and communicate with you on any number of occasions and each time come to the conclusion it is impossible to do so.

You ignorantly keep trying to infer I am a racist, you cowardly piece of ****! You use the racist tag as a way to marginalize those who disagree with your endless incoherent ramblings. And now, you fool, claim that if I am not watching games with the Miami chapter of the NAACP makes it clear that I am a disciple of George Wallace and a KKK Grand Wizard. What sewer did you crawl out of? No, wait, more accurately, what sewer were you kicked out of?

You suggested; "Try to watch a game and mix it up with some people different than yourself". That comment alone clearly proves you ARE the bigot. I believe your words are an antisemitic dog whistle. And I get your homophobic innuendo. I also believe you think women are subservient pieces of meat.

Like you have proven, some of the most despicable people on the planet are those who erode the horror and true meaning of racism by using it as a tool to try and win arguments that have not one thing to do with racism. You should be ashamed of yourself, but narcissists like you are incapable of self-introspection. (Traits of a Narcissist - Bridges to Recovery)
 
Canedude08 said:
There are rich drug dealers, hit men, and other assorted scumbags. What's your point? Merely being rich, or in some cases wealthy doesn't mean you are worth a ****. Lebron James is **** near a billionaire, merely because he can put a ball in a hoop at a slightly better percentage than his coworkers. Yet the teams of engineers and scientists that are responsible for the things we use every day won't ever come close to being that wealthy. Just remember, there are talented teachers that make peanuts, while Kim Kardashian makes millions. Your financial worth doesn't mean anything outside of a balance sheet. We live in a society in which worth to society, and what you make aren't linked in the least. It sure as **** doesn't point to intellectual attainment either.
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1. People confuse morality and ethics with intelligence. I don’t know any drug dealers but I’ll assume you need to be very smart to rise to a certain level of power beyond errand boy, and to not be in jail or killed. Eventually consequences may catch up with you, and very smart people are trying to take you down.

2. Making money does not necessarily make you smart, but keeping it does. Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and others made fortunes through basketball or other sports but are very smart men. They developed long terms goals and plans beyond the game. Ever hear about them getting in trouble with drugs, domestic violence, fights at a club, or bankruptcies? No. Because they’re smart and disciplined. They surround themselves with people smarter than they are while being smart enough to know better. Instead of having an entourage of people stealing and wasting their money.

3. Choosing a profession without a big paycheck while helping society is commendable. We should place greater value on teachers and education. This is why Lebron is intelligent enough to put millions of his money into a school in his hometown of Akron, Ohio. Where children from his neighborhood can obtain a quality education with the possibility of having a college education paid for. He knows he’s a extreme outlier and most people will never see a dime pursuing athletics over education.
 
Canedude08 said:
So, selling death to others, knowing full well you are most likely going to end up in prison or dead is intelligent? Yep, that's really bright. I guess generations of mafia figures, most of whom didn't live to collect Social Security were geniuses, just because they made some money? It's obvious that you have little understanding of what intelligence entails. Plenty of morons get rich, still doesn't mean they know anything. Remember, there are NFL players that can't read the morning paper, yet are wealthy. Floyd Mayweather has a unique skillset that allowed him to make hundreds of millions of dollars, he can't read a single sentence in any contract that he's ever signed.

Kim Kardashian didn't market diddly squat, she's a symptom of a larger disease: There are plenty of dolts willing to follow someone that provides no value whatsoever. It's "Idiocracy" in real time.
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Yes, they are smart. You can say they are immoral, but they are still smart. Are the executives in a big pharma company stupid? Are the guys who create and sell weapons stupid? Are the executives of military contracting companies stupid? Since you are not from the hood I will give you a pass on this one, but the guys in the dope game that end up dead or in jail are less than 50% which means they are not most likely to end up in that situation. If Einstein was never taught to read he wouldn't know how. Does that make him stupid? No. Intelligence and education are 2 completley different things. Mayweather has the dedication and discipline to become elite. So do the NFL players. Mayweather also is a marketing genius. He is not even close to the GOAT boxer, but due to his intelligence he was able to market himself to make more money than any other boxer ever. Kardashian did market herself. Why do you think every attractive woman doesn't have her riches? She was able to market her body.
 
hoops156 said:
not much of a grown man if he gets off by cursing out college kids from the stands when he knows each of them would stuff him in a trash can.
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Just because you would get thrown in a trash can doesn’t mean everyone would lol.
Canedude08 said:
I grew up in a diverse neighborhood with successful people of all races and creeds. I don't apologize for having parents intelligent enough to not raise me in the hood, so I can get my "Street" card. By the way, if you really think intelligent, driven black people are throwing around "F**k N***as" at home like no one's business, you must have limited experience dealing with rational people. I doubt even someone like Lebron James, who came from that world is consistently throwing that word around at home around his children.
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show us your face

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Earnest T. Bass said:
I have done my best to try and communicate with you on any number of occasions and each time come to the conclusion it is impossible to do so.

You ignorantly keep trying to infer I am a racist, you cowardly piece of ****! You use the racist tag as a way to marginalize those who disagree with your endless incoherent ramblings. And now, you fool, claim that if I am not watching games with the Miami chapter of the NAACP makes it clear that I am a disciple of George Wallace and a KKK Grand Wizard. What sewer did you crawl out of? No, wait, more accurately, what sewer were you kicked out of?

You suggested; "Try to watch a game and mix it up with some people different than yourself". That comment alone clearly proves you ARE the bigot. I believe your words are an antisemitic dog whistle. And I get your homophobic innuendo. I also believe you think women are subservient pieces of meat.

Like you have proven, some of the most despicable people on the planet are those who erode the horror and true meaning of racism by using it as a tool to try and win arguments that have not one thing to do with racism. You should be ashamed of yourself, but narcissists like you are incapable of self-introspection. (Traits of a Narcissist - Bridges to Recovery)
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You have a serious problem.

Nowhere did I imply you were a racist. I don’t know what your problem is with reading comprehension. I think maybe the worst thing I implied was it you need to get out more and maybe meet some different kind of people, that doesn’t make you a racist it might make you naïve, but not a racist. You’ve got some issues buddy
 
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