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Gamineal said:
our players dont need friends or a guy they can relate too, ( black or cuban ) coach...if you look at the coaches that got these players in south Fl to play their best or even south FL players on other teams...its hard nosed, no none sense, known to be a ******* or a disciplinary coach,

Snelly was tough, made guys run/compete used their speed and ability

JJ the same just put more speed on the D side of the ball...( if he stayed 10 ships by now)

Dennis was a nice guy and you saw the talent erode and he was gone

Butch hard *** and got guys to play using JJs style..

Coaker nice guy..dad like....used Butchs tough *** guys and leaders and when they left you saw the drop off...

Shannon...very tough off the field but was a players coach, approachable wanted to be your pal

Golden pool parties, dodgeball...nuff said
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Nailed it. Based on what I've seen, as a realistic candidate I like Mark Hudspeth at ULL. He fits that description and he's been a winner everywhere he goes. 4 straight 9 win seasons and 4 straight bowl wins at ULL. Would like to see him put it all together this year and win 10+.

Same goes for Justin Fuente at Memphis, dude seems like a hard ***, especially after the interview after the fight in the bowl game last year.
 
LuvLipzHalCrazVishCRob said:
Cool article on fleck here:
Still unknown: Is P.J. Fleck the Next Big Thing ... or just passing through? - CBSSports.com
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Never even heard of the dude but that was a great article. No idea about his coaching, scheme, recruiting, etc but if he is what that article makes him out to be then.. yes please come to Miami.

Just looked at his recruiting classes. Dude signed the #34 class in the nation at WMU a few years ago. Now he has signed the top class in the MAC 3 straight years. Must know what he's doing.
 
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mjackson6 said:
LuvLipzHalCrazVishCRob said:
Cool article on fleck here:
Still unknown: Is P.J. Fleck the Next Big Thing ... or just passing through? - CBSSports.com
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Never even heard of the dude but that was a great article. No idea about his coaching, scheme, recruiting, etc but if he is what that article makes him out to be then.. yes please come to Miami.

Just looked at his recruiting classes. Dude signed the #34 class in the nation at WMU a few years ago. Now he has signed the top class in the MAC 3 straight years. Must know what he's doing.
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http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2013/01/pj_fleck.html

Here's another one. He's 34 and seems incredibly self motivated to rise so quickly at his age. Plus, no daddy nfl connections who also was a fast riser at that age. Won 1 and then 8 games last year so he's getting the right kind of seasoning before jumping to a job like here.
 
I think Orgeron would be a terrible hire, for most of the same reasons already presented. If USC could "do better", why can't we?

I'm also not a fan of going back to the MAC for the next HC, so I would pass on Fleck.

I think the conference ULL is in is too small to prepare someone for the jump to Miami. Unless he's going undefeated or being innovative, I don't think Hudspeth really brings anything to Miami ... Except "he's not Al Golden". That's not enough, for me.

I think Brohm would definitely be a better choice than Cristobal. So, if Mario really is in the mix, Brohm should be. ... Assuming he does well this season.

Houston would have to win the conference for me to give credit to Hermann. If OSU doesn't skip a beat on O this year, then how much of last year was really about him being the OC? It will be interesting to see how he and Chad Morris (SMU) do. But I'm not sure either of them leave Texas ...

Fuente seems the most likely, assuming he replicates what Memphis did last season. He wins the AAC again, and he'll be the hottest name from the "up and coming" ranks.

And though I know he's not liked on this board, I still think it will be interesting to see what Kiffin does with the Bama QB and offense this season. Having him coach Kaaya may be a really good fit. And Allison is also pro-style. Kiffin is probably the best chance we have of getting someone from a Power 5 conference to come ...
 
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it's looking more and more like schiano or cristobal every day

I just can't see this stupid board of directors or whatever you wanna call them making the right choice and getting butch back here.
 
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MIATL said:
I think Orgeron would be a terrible hire, for most of the same reasons already presented. If USC could "do better", why can't we?



And though I know he's not liked on this board, I still think it will be interesting to see what Kiffin does with the Bama QB and offense this season. Having him coach Kaaya may be a really good fit. And Allison is also pro-style. Kiffin is probably the best chance we have of getting someone from a Power 5 conference to come ...
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At the beginning of your post, you talk about Orgeron not being good enough for USC, so he shouldn't be good enough for us. Then, at the end of your post, you're pimping a guy who wasn't good enough for USC.
 
I feel you ...

But USC replaced Kiffin with an upgrade of the same model ...

I also think coaching is about "fit" and specialty. Orgeron doesn't have a specialty ... He's not an X's and O's wizard on O or D.

Kiffin can run an offense, he can develop QBs, and he can recruit. That may mean that he just needs to stay an OC ... I get it.

But Kiffin could also be "the next Jimbo". And assuming he hires right at the DC position, he could be a fit at Miami, IMO.

I also think re-treading a 40 year Kiffin is different than re-treading a 54 year old Orgeron ...

But I feel you ...

The Franchise said:
MIATL said:
I think Orgeron would be a terrible hire, for most of the same reasons already presented. If USC could "do better", why can't we?



And though I know he's not liked on this board, I still think it will be interesting to see what Kiffin does with the Bama QB and offense this season. Having him coach Kaaya may be a really good fit. And Allison is also pro-style. Kiffin is probably the best chance we have of getting someone from a Power 5 conference to come ...
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At the beginning of your post, you talk about Orgeron not being good enough for USC, so he shouldn't be good enough for us. Then, at the end of your post, you're pimping a guy who wasn't good enough for USC.
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MIATL said:
I feel you ...

But USC replaced Kiffin with an upgrade of the same model ...

I also think coaching is about "fit" and specialty. Orgeron doesn't have a specialty ... He's not an X's and O's wizard on O or D.

Kiffin can run an offense, he can develop QBs, and he can recruit. That may mean that he just needs to stay an OC ... I get it.

But Kiffin could also be "the next Jimbo". And assuming he hires right at the DC position, he could be a fit at Miami, IMO.

I also think re-treading a 40 year Kiffin is different than re-treading a 54 year old Orgeron ...

But I feel you ...

The Franchise said:
MIATL said:
I think Orgeron would be a terrible hire, for most of the same reasons already presented. If USC could "do better", why can't we?



And though I know he's not liked on this board, I still think it will be interesting to see what Kiffin does with the Bama QB and offense this season. Having him coach Kaaya may be a really good fit. And Allison is also pro-style. Kiffin is probably the best chance we have of getting someone from a Power 5 conference to come ...
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At the beginning of your post, you talk about Orgeron not being good enough for USC, so he shouldn't be good enough for us. Then, at the end of your post, you're pimping a guy who wasn't good enough for USC.
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Jimbo wasn't a 3 time failure as a HC like *****in is. There's plenty of data on *****in. UM can't afford to take another risk on a guy who gets fired everywhere.

You guys get too caught up in coordinators. Give me a HC.
 
The Franchise said:
MIATL said:
I feel you ...

But USC replaced Kiffin with an upgrade of the same model ...

I also think coaching is about "fit" and specialty. Orgeron doesn't have a specialty ... He's not an X's and O's wizard on O or D.

Kiffin can run an offense, he can develop QBs, and he can recruit. That may mean that he just needs to stay an OC ... I get it.

But Kiffin could also be "the next Jimbo". And assuming he hires right at the DC position, he could be a fit at Miami, IMO.

I also think re-treading a 40 year Kiffin is different than re-treading a 54 year old Orgeron ...

But I feel you ...

The Franchise said:
MIATL said:
I think Orgeron would be a terrible hire, for most of the same reasons already presented. If USC could "do better", why can't we?



And though I know he's not liked on this board, I still think it will be interesting to see what Kiffin does with the Bama QB and offense this season. Having him coach Kaaya may be a really good fit. And Allison is also pro-style. Kiffin is probably the best chance we have of getting someone from a Power 5 conference to come ...
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At the beginning of your post, you talk about Orgeron not being good enough for USC, so he shouldn't be good enough for us. Then, at the end of your post, you're pimping a guy who wasn't good enough for USC.
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Jimbo wasn't a 3 time failure as a HC like *****in is. There's plenty of data on *****in. UM can't afford to take another risk on a guy who gets fired everywhere.

You guys get too caught up in coordinators. Give me a HC.
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Agree...the time for ******* around and getting cute are over. The next hire needs to be a good one and someone that has experience ALREADY being a HEAD COACH.
 
The Franchise said:
MIATL said:
I feel you ...

But USC replaced Kiffin with an upgrade of the same model ...

I also think coaching is about "fit" and specialty. Orgeron doesn't have a specialty ... He's not an X's and O's wizard on O or D.

Kiffin can run an offense, he can develop QBs, and he can recruit. That may mean that he just needs to stay an OC ... I get it.

But Kiffin could also be "the next Jimbo". And assuming he hires right at the DC position, he could be a fit at Miami, IMO.

I also think re-treading a 40 year Kiffin is different than re-treading a 54 year old Orgeron ...

But I feel you ...

The Franchise said:
MIATL said:
I think Orgeron would be a terrible hire, for most of the same reasons already presented. If USC could "do better", why can't we?



And though I know he's not liked on this board, I still think it will be interesting to see what Kiffin does with the Bama QB and offense this season. Having him coach Kaaya may be a really good fit. And Allison is also pro-style. Kiffin is probably the best chance we have of getting someone from a Power 5 conference to come ...
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At the beginning of your post, you talk about Orgeron not being good enough for USC, so he shouldn't be good enough for us. Then, at the end of your post, you're pimping a guy who wasn't good enough for USC.
Click to expand...
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Jimbo wasn't a 3 time failure as a HC like *****in is. There's plenty of data on *****in. UM can't afford to take another risk on a guy who gets fired everywhere.

You guys get too caught up in coordinators. Give me a HC.
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Guys are too caught up in coordinators because our current head coach blows just like the prior 2.When we've had great teams did we even give a **** who the coordinators were,I know I didn't.
 
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Mario has proven nothing. He took a bad program at FIU and made them mediocre. Sound familiar?

He would be just as risky as Golden was. No thanks.
 
Jedi Master Cane said:
The Franchise said:
MIATL said:
I feel you ...

But USC replaced Kiffin with an upgrade of the same model ...

I also think coaching is about "fit" and specialty. Orgeron doesn't have a specialty ... He's not an X's and O's wizard on O or D.

Kiffin can run an offense, he can develop QBs, and he can recruit. That may mean that he just needs to stay an OC ... I get it.

But Kiffin could also be "the next Jimbo". And assuming he hires right at the DC position, he could be a fit at Miami, IMO.

I also think re-treading a 40 year Kiffin is different than re-treading a 54 year old Orgeron ...

But I feel you ...

The Franchise said:
MIATL said:
I think Orgeron would be a terrible hire, for most of the same reasons already presented. If USC could "do better", why can't we?



And though I know he's not liked on this board, I still think it will be interesting to see what Kiffin does with the Bama QB and offense this season. Having him coach Kaaya may be a really good fit. And Allison is also pro-style. Kiffin is probably the best chance we have of getting someone from a Power 5 conference to come ...
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At the beginning of your post, you talk about Orgeron not being good enough for USC, so he shouldn't be good enough for us. Then, at the end of your post, you're pimping a guy who wasn't good enough for USC.
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Jimbo wasn't a 3 time failure as a HC like *****in is. There's plenty of data on *****in. UM can't afford to take another risk on a guy who gets fired everywhere.

You guys get too caught up in coordinators. Give me a HC.
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Agree...the time for ****ing around and getting cute are over. The next hire needs to be a good one and someone that has experience ALREADY being a HEAD COACH.
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A successful HEAD COACH.
 
Butch would be a sure thing.

But let's roll with anOTHER long shot.

We've done so very well with the last three.
 
Torocane said:
Jedi Master Cane said:
The Franchise said:
MIATL said:
I feel you ...

But USC replaced Kiffin with an upgrade of the same model ...

I also think coaching is about "fit" and specialty. Orgeron doesn't have a specialty ... He's not an X's and O's wizard on O or D.

Kiffin can run an offense, he can develop QBs, and he can recruit. That may mean that he just needs to stay an OC ... I get it.

But Kiffin could also be "the next Jimbo". And assuming he hires right at the DC position, he could be a fit at Miami, IMO.

I also think re-treading a 40 year Kiffin is different than re-treading a 54 year old Orgeron ...

But I feel you ...

The Franchise said:
At the beginning of your post, you talk about Orgeron not being good enough for USC, so he shouldn't be good enough for us. Then, at the end of your post, you're pimping a guy who wasn't good enough for USC.
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Click to expand...

Jimbo wasn't a 3 time failure as a HC like *****in is. There's plenty of data on *****in. UM can't afford to take another risk on a guy who gets fired everywhere.

You guys get too caught up in coordinators. Give me a HC.
Click to expand...

Agree...the time for ****ing around and getting cute are over. The next hire needs to be a good one and someone that has experience ALREADY being a HEAD COACH.
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A successful HEAD COACH.
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A successful Head Coach against QUALITY competition, I'd add.
 
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