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I don't think Manny survives the weekend

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swampcougar1 said:
We have started insanely slow a lot of games under Manny. This did not start because of TVD. I blame this a lot more on coaching than any players.
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It’s both. Go watch the film. TVD has been especially erratic early on, much more so than later in games. But I agree, the 3 games that King started we scored 0 points on our first drives of all those.
 
I don’t think it needs to be a blowout, just a gut feeling. I think even a one point loss gets him fired as it should.

But I’m not even sweating it, he’s cooked, he’s done, he’s not going to be here next year. And to me that’s the most important aspect of it.

The reason I would be in favor for firing him now, is that that kind of thing usually gives a bump to the team. They coalesce and become more of a team. We saw it happen after Golden was fired. The team actually played better if you recall that year, after Golden was gone.

In any event, everyone has seen what they need to see, this was his make it or break it year. And he broke it. So he’s gone, rest assured of that.
 
I’ve said that 2-5 would be the magic number. That’s what? 7 straight P5 losses?
but of course the 2-5 firing mark is based on reason and logic which seems to escape this BoT when it comes to running a successful football program.
 
Obviously he should have been fired a long time ago. He never should have been hired in the first place.

That said - I have zero faith in the decision makers to do what is necessary during the season. I think anything short of a Clemsoning or a last game in the OB debacle, he probably keeps his job until the end of the season. Depressing.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Right, but he needed to score 44 points to do it. Against Bailey Hockman. You see TVD throwing for 430 yards and running for 105 on Saturday?
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TVD might just be an unfinished product. He could improve as the season goes on. Like a piece of clay being molded. There’s always the possibility that he continues to improve and gain confidence. A lot of it has to do with the offensive line though. Which makes it scary.
 
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And if he somehow survives a NC State loss with a 2-5 record, Pitt is on deck. So that would make it 2-6.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
And let me preface this by saying I almost never, ever bet this team, and am usually WAY more optimistic than most fans. So, take this with a grain of salt, as I'm usually wrong (hence the reason I rarely bet on or against Miami).......but I think this is the last weekend for Manny here. I think we're going to get beaten rather convincingly on Saturday and, at 2-5 with yet another home loss on national TV in which we're not especially competitive as only a 3 point dog, they're going to have no choice but to finally let him go.

To me, NC State is the kind of team who can expose Miami badly. In a sense, they're a better Michigan State. The only teams that Miami can beat are teams with really poor defenses, like UVA and UNC (I know we didn't win, but both games were close and could have easily been wins), that they can potentially outscore. Or teams with very poor QBs that they can limit (App State). They can't beat good defenses. And they can't limit good QBs. If you're just a balanced team, Miami really has very little shot, because any good QB is going to score on our defense, and any good defense is going to punish our terrible OL.

NC State is exactly that, IMO. Devin Leary is a good player, and yet while he's not explosive (72nd in the country in YPA, -35 rushing yards on the year), he's very accurate and doesn't make many mistakes (65% completion rate, only 2 INTs in 6 games). Also, they have two kids who are in the top 4 in the conference in missed tackles forced. Zonovan Knight is 2nd with 35 and Ricky Person is 4th with 34. What does Miami struggle with? Limiting QB completion percentage (we're 79th in the country) and missing tackles (worst on planet Earth, possibly beyond). So, I really don't see our defense holding them under 30 points.

On offense, we've started insanely slow the last 2 games with TVD as the QB. In both his starts, we have a grand total of 1 first down in the first quarter of BOTH games combined. And what is the strength of the NC State team? Defense. This is NOT Virginia and NOT North Carolina. UVA is 106th in YPP allowed, UNC is 61st. NC State? 18th. How do they do it? They're near the bottom in sacks and TFLs, so they don't get a lot of negative plays. What they do is play smart, sound football, and they're EXCELLENT on 3rd downs. 2nd in the entire country in defensive 3rd down conversion % allowed. They also don't allow explosive plays. They've only allowed ONE play over 40 yards all year (In contrast, our defense has allowed 6). So they make you earn everything. Not a good recipe with an inaccurate, freshman QB (TVD has completed 47.2% of his passes against FBS competition, which were he qualified, would be far and away dead last in the entire country). So, I really don't see our offense scoring 30 or much above it, unless something really crazy happens (special teams/defensive TD, one of their DBs blows a hammy in coverage, penalties, etc). If this is a "normal" clean game, I really don't see how they don't win by 10+ points.

And if we go out there *AGAIN* against a team who has less talent on paper than we do, at home, on ESPN2, in primetime, and lose something like 35-23, how can you possibly justify keeping a 2-5 Manny when we'll essentially be officially eliminated from any and all of our preseason goals? I don't see how you can justify keeping him now, but I guess the dumbass thinking is "well, the games were close and the team is competitive". Sadly, I don't think that will be the case this week.

(All this to say, bet your life on Miami. We're going to win 58-10, because nothing makes any ******* sense around here)
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I think they'll wait till we're mathematically eliminated from the coastal which would require losses to Pitt & Ga Tech, but I really hope NC State puts us out of our misery and ends this nightmare. As Cane fans we deserve better than this 💩
 
I thought it might happen last week after UNC blew us out, but unfortunately UNC didn't hold up their end of the bargain. Turns out, they are pretty crappy as well. I think NC State is pretty good, so I would hope they smack us around on Saturday and in turn Diaz is canned.
 
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We'retheBoss said:
I can't wait to see what contrived "Sad Keanu" picture Manny cooks up this week. What do you think, will it be Manny sitting on a bench in the rain, with a single tear running down his cheek? Maybe it will even be in black&white
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I can't wait to meme them lol
 
Damiencane86 said:
I think they'll wait till we're mathematically eliminated from the coastal which would require losses to Pitt & Ga Tech, but I really hope NC State puts us out of our misery and ends this nightmare. As Cane fans we deserve better than this 💩
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Are we talking about mathematically eliminated from ACCCG or any bowl game?
 
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