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@HurricanesHome - A Real Detailed Plan for Tropical Park

4Canes said:
The one thing I don't understand is why do many think the stadium needs to be near the university?
The on/around campus student population is at best 8K, and IIRC Broward and Palm Beach produce as many season ticket holders as does Miami-Dade.
I just don't see what putting it near campus solves.
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I am Not sure if you are joking? If you are not, tropical park is arguably easier to get to for broward and palm beach fans than the orange bowl was. There is a university community that extends well beyond the student body.
 
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4Canes said:
The one thing I don't understand is why do many think the stadium needs to be near the university?
The on/around campus student population is at best 8K, and IIRC Broward and Palm Beach produce as many season ticket holders as does Miami-Dade.
I just don't see what putting it near campus solves.
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Wow. Just wow.
 
OP, good stuff. Follow Alonzo via twitter and get this to him pronto. This is the most sense I've seen in a while pertaining to a feasible plan. If county can make money from it, it will be all good. If the University don't have to fund it, it will be all good.
 
4Canes said:
The one thing I don't understand is why do many think the stadium needs to be near the university?
The on/around campus student population is at best 8K, and IIRC Broward and Palm Beach produce as many season ticket holders as does Miami-Dade.
I just don't see what putting it near campus solves.
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you are bad at trolling.
 
Im from East Tennessee where ETSU is located. Just revived the football program last year and they start playing next year, they are planning to build a stadium and have already got a large amount of money ready to be donated. they increased tuition $50 a semester to directly help the stadium construction. It is a public school but similar size to miami (15000 students) if they can raise that amount of money, no reason Miami cant do it
 
Hurricanes_1983 said:
4Canes said:
The one thing I don't understand is why do many think the stadium needs to be near the university?
The on/around campus student population is at best 8K, and IIRC Broward and Palm Beach produce as many season ticket holders as does Miami-Dade.
I just don't see what putting it near campus solves.
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you are bad at trolling.
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I'm actually not trolling, it's a legitimate question. Traffic would be a nightmare at Tropical and the "university community" doesn't change anything, when your fan base is made up from three counties two north of the university.
What's going to magically happen if a stadium is built near campus?
I get the issues with Sun Life.
 
No offense to the OP but all he did was waste his time with this- not that it doesn't make absolute sense. The administration doesn't need business type plans for a lightbulb to go off in their collective heads.

Want to apply real pressure (relatively speaking as they seem immune to it) to the school? Work on getting a local county politician to go on record saying that Miami-Dade would explore this idea with the school. There are already politicians championing a Canes return to a soccer stadium that looks like it wouldnt fit next to Marlins Park so this might not be that impossible a task. The school's current talking points against Tropical Park is that FIU was needed and wasn't interested and that it's not their land. Get the land part on the table and force their hand in at least admitting that they have no interest.
 
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The Dolphins are spending $350M to improve No Life Stadium, its centrally located to all three counties and easy to get to, and UM has 20+ years left on its lease.

I believe they are adding/moving seats closer to the field on the sidelines as part of the improvements on top of putting a roof type structure so all UM has to do is tarp off the upper deck and we'll have a huge improvement in noise/atmosphere and have a state of the art stadium and field surface.

I used to have to take the metrorail to a bus to get to the Orange Bowl with no place to tailgate so the fact that the 5k students that go to games simply have to take a bus and/or have a large space to tailgate just means those that don't attend are pussies.

The FAU stadium is an erector set and glorified high school stadium. Anyone that is clamoring for that type of stadium versus an NFL stadium is a fool.

Financing of private stadiums are a giant waste of money and a losing proposition financially in every instance. Better to have the Alonzo type fundraising go for things he mentioned like indoor fields and better training table facilities rather than a money losing stadium that gets used 6 days a year.
 
Tad Footeball said:
No offense to the OP but all he did was waste his time with this- not that it doesn't make absolute sense. The administration doesn't need business type plans for a lightbulb to go off in their collective heads.

Want to apply real pressure (relatively speaking as they seem immune to it) to the school? Work on getting a local county politician to go on record saying that Miami-Dade would explore this idea with the school. There are already politicians championing a Canes return to a soccer stadium that looks like it wouldnt fit next to Marlins Park so this might not be that impossible a task. The school's current talking points against Tropical Park is that FIU was needed and wasn't interested and that it's not their land. Get the land part on the table and force their hand in at least admitting that they have no interest.
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This is a great idea.
 
MGreen26 said:
Tad Footeball said:
No offense to the OP but all he did was waste his time with this- not that it doesn't make absolute sense. The administration doesn't need business type plans for a lightbulb to go off in their collective heads.

Want to apply real pressure (relatively speaking as they seem immune to it) to the school? Work on getting a local county politician to go on record saying that Miami-Dade would explore this idea with the school. There are already politicians championing a Canes return to a soccer stadium that looks like it wouldnt fit next to Marlins Park so this might not be that impossible a task. The school's current talking points against Tropical Park is that FIU was needed and wasn't interested and that it's not their land. Get the land part on the table and force their hand in at least admitting that they have no interest.
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This is a great idea.
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I personally don't hold out any hope for anything short of Beckham building something and gifting us a spot in it but if Highsmith's plan gets going then we need to look for allies outside of the school. Again, the OP was spot on with the material within his effort but trying to cajole them from within is a pointless endeavor.
 
"The stadium will also have incredible acoustics so it can become a sought-after outdoor concert venue."

The point at which i stopped reading.
 
i wish but whats the point if fans won't go to games when Miami is sucking and if they are doing well only to prime games?

Seriously, us fans are so US US US ME ME ME but won't bother go buy season tix or go to games they are available to go to? Give me a break, no wonder our fanbase is labeled as one of the worst.
 
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ssvir said:
The Dolphins are spending $350M to improve No Life Stadium, its centrally located to all three counties and easy to get to, and UM has 20+ years left on its lease.

I believe they are adding/moving seats closer to the field on the sidelines as part of the improvements on top of putting a roof type structure so all UM has to do is tarp off the upper deck and we'll have a huge improvement in noise/atmosphere and have a state of the art stadium and field surface.

I used to have to take the metrorail to a bus to get to the Orange Bowl with no place to tailgate so the fact that the 5k students that go to games simply have to take a bus and/or have a large space to tailgate just means those that don't attend are pussies.

The FAU stadium is an erector set and glorified high school stadium. Anyone that is clamoring for that type of stadium versus an NFL stadium is a fool.

Financing of private stadiums are a giant waste of money and a losing proposition financially in every instance. Better to have the Alonzo type fundraising go for things he mentioned like indoor fields and better training table facilities rather than a money losing stadium that gets used 6 days a year.
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A state of the art stadium? you can't possibly be serious. They are not moving the seats closer to the field. the existing structure is remaining the same. At most they are just adding some to the lower bowl.
Also not seeing how students are pussies. What other college requires their students to take a 45 minute bus ride to the dam stadium. Plus if they actually want to tailgate hard, they can't take the free buses the school provides, because they only leave like 2.5 hours before the games starts. So that means they have to drive or carpool, which means someone won't be able to drink, when usually that's the entire point, while in college. It absolutely is a ****** gameday for students compared to other colleges, probably the worst in college football.
 
calinative umstudent said:
ssvir said:
The Dolphins are spending $350M to improve No Life Stadium, its centrally located to all three counties and easy to get to, and UM has 20+ years left on its lease.

I believe they are adding/moving seats closer to the field on the sidelines as part of the improvements on top of putting a roof type structure so all UM has to do is tarp off the upper deck and we'll have a huge improvement in noise/atmosphere and have a state of the art stadium and field surface.

I used to have to take the metrorail to a bus to get to the Orange Bowl with no place to tailgate so the fact that the 5k students that go to games simply have to take a bus and/or have a large space to tailgate just means those that don't attend are pussies.

The FAU stadium is an erector set and glorified high school stadium. Anyone that is clamoring for that type of stadium versus an NFL stadium is a fool.

Financing of private stadiums are a giant waste of money and a losing proposition financially in every instance. Better to have the Alonzo type fundraising go for things he mentioned like indoor fields and better training table facilities rather than a money losing stadium that gets used 6 days a year.
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A state of the art stadium? you can't possibly be serious. They are not moving the seats closer to the field. the existing structure is remaining the same. At most they are just adding some to the lower bowl.
Also not seeing how students are pussies. What other college requires their students to take a 45 minute bus ride to the dam stadium. Plus if they actually want to tailgate hard, they can't take the free buses the school provides, because they only leave like 2.5 hours before the games starts. So that means they have to drive or carpool, which means someone won't be able to drink, when usually that's the entire point, while in college. It absolutely is a ****ty gameday for students compared to other colleges, probably the worst in college football.
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#1 When the Dolphins are spending $350M (which is more than the stadiums the OP referenced to be built from scratch are) then YES I do believe it will be a "state of the art" stadium. The seats are being moved closer to the field. Take at look at the article for yourself.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/6/19/5824758/dolphins-stadium-renovation-plans-sun-life

#2 The gameday atmosphere for students has been like this for 25+ years. When UM played at the OB students had to take the metrorail to Overtown then get on a bus to get to the games. How is that easier than just getting on a bus and getting off the bus at the stadium? There was NO PLACE to park your car at the OB if you chose to tailgate so we would rent buses, throw a couple kegs in the back, and roll over to the stadium. You can ***** about anything in life these days but a 45 minute bus ride shouldn't be one of them.

Bottom line is if the team is any good the stadium atmosphere will take care of itself. Put a ****** product on the field and there will be a ****** atmosphere.
 
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