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How we get back to a Top 5 High School recruiting class

grover said:
Thank you. People on here act like we have no talent some times. The success of these kids on the watch list (split between transfers and high school recruits) in the upcoming NFL draft(s) will dictate how hard or easy it is to win battles vs Top 5 recruiting programs.

Want to beat Hartfield at WR or Raymond at Safety? We need WRs and Ss going to the league, the higher the round the better. And while we will get a little development credit for a Beck, and more for a Mesidor or Richard, the pitch rings truest when high school guys like Sisi and Bain go Day 1/2. This next draft, we really need to start seeing Mario kids' names called, the higher the better.
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I still think our bags just aren’t as big as we think we are
The more Mario is winning his classes are dropping in rank
The og bag schools are getting their act together
More nil >>> winning
 
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Dwinstitles said:
Ok buddy 👌🏻
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Just want to make sure I'm hearing you right...

OSU to the ACC. Clemson goes to the BIG.
Your telling me, after a couple of years in the ACC, OSU will have the same results when they go head to head with UGA, Texas, and Oregon for those 5-star studs??
 
jsy said:
I still think our bags just aren’t as big as we think we are
The more Mario is winning his classes are dropping in rank
The og bag schools are getting their act together
More nil >>> winning
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Hes winning 10 games without substance behind it. Instead of conference championship or CFP appearence to go with the 10 wins he gets a pop tart bowl loss. That along with pretty much no one of notariety playing on Sunday anymore is the bigger problem.

Miami's getting outbid on some guys, but also the highest bidder on others. The money is there, the development hasn't been.
 
NJshoreCane said:
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Just want to make sure I'm hearing you right...

OSU to the ACC. Clemson goes to the BIG.
Your telling me, after a couple of years in the ACC, OSU will have the same results when they go head to head with UGA, Texas, and Oregon for those 5-star studs??
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Yes because they would still be competing for the national title every year. How is that hard to understand?
 
DC3 said:
Yes because they would still be competing for the national title every year. How is that hard to understand?
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There's no difficulty understanding this.

Oregon, UGA, and Texas in the "Big 2" will still be competing for championships as well,
I didn't say OSU's recruiting would tank. They'd still be in that upper tier, of course.
But to say they wouldn't be affected, at all?

You think there's no recruiting edge being in the SEC/BIG as opposed to the ACC.
I do not.

I think that just about sums it up.
 
NJshoreCane said:
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Just want to make sure I'm hearing you right...

OSU to the ACC. Clemson goes to the BIG.
Your telling me, after a couple of years in the ACC, OSU will have the same results when they go head to head with UGA, Texas, and Oregon for those 5-star studs??
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1,000% yes.

OSU doesn't land recruits because they're in the B1G. They get top notch recruits because they spend top notch money, win lots of games & put a bunch of players in the NFL.

I'll ask this question again...

If it's just because of the conference, how come Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue, South Carolina, Kentucky, Miss ST, Arkansas, Vanderbilt etc.. don't recruit at the same level as UGA, Bama, LSU, Oh ST, Michigan etc?

Correlation does not imply causation.
 
NJshoreCane said:
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Just want to make sure I'm hearing you right...

OSU to the ACC. Clemson goes to the BIG.
Your telling me, after a couple of years in the ACC, OSU will have the same results when they go head to head with UGA, Texas, and Oregon for those 5-star studs??
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Memnon already explained this i am not going to go through this again. Ask him man
 
Memnon said:
1,000% yes.

OSU doesn't land recruits because they're in the B1G. They get top notch recruits because they spend top notch money, win lots of games & put a bunch of players in the NFL.

I'll ask this question again...

If it's just because of the conference, how come Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue, South Carolina, Kentucky, Miss ST, Arkansas, Vanderbilt etc.. don't recruit at the same level as UGA, Bama, LSU, Oh ST, Michigan etc?

Correlation does not imply causation.
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OSU doesn't land recruits because they're in the B1G.

Agree, I never said that.
I did say they would still recruit at very high level.

I'll ask this question again...

If it's just because of the conference, how come Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue, South Carolina, Kentucky, Miss ST, Arkansas, Vanderbilt etc.. don't recruit at the same level as UGA, Bama, LSU, Oh ST, Michigan etc?

The question doesn't relate to my response.
I was talking about going head to head with other heavyweights.
See post #45 above.

So, you too, with all being equal (say, OSU vs Oregon or Texas), think there's no advantage to being in the SEC/BIG as opposed to the ACC.
I disagree with that.
 
NJshoreCane said:
OSU doesn't land recruits because they're in the B1G.

Agree, I never said that.
I did say they would still recruit at very high level.

I'll ask this question again...

If it's just because of the conference, how come Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue, South Carolina, Kentucky, Miss ST, Arkansas, Vanderbilt etc.. don't recruit at the same level as UGA, Bama, LSU, Oh ST, Michigan etc?

The question doesn't relate to my response.
I was talking about going head to head with other heavyweights.
See post #45 above.

So, you too, with all being equal (say, OSU vs Oregon or Texas), think there's no advantage to being in the SEC/BIG as opposed to the ACC.
I disagree with that.
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Why does that advantage only apply to the top schools?

How come that advantage hasn't affected Washington or Oklahoma upon entering the hallowed halls of the B1G & SEC?

UCLA is in the B1G too right? Where's their recruiting spike?
 
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You can pretty much pencil in Penn State for the #15 class in the country every year

Michigan never really a recruiting power but made waves spending money last year

Oregon made the BIG a sudden recruiting power (they really aren’t) not the other way around imo
 
Memnon said:
Why does that advantage only apply to the top schools?

How come that advantage hasn't affected Washington or Oklahoma upon entering the hallowed halls of the B1G & SEC?

UCLA is in the B1G too right? Where's their recruiting spike?
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The post I replied to referred to the top schools at the top of their recruiting game right now.
We're talking top 4/5. The teams you need a crow bar to pry out of that top tier.
Chances are they would stay in that tier....but have zero effect?

Those other teams, although they're in the hallowed halls of the B1G/SEC, don't spend top notch money, win lots of games & put a bunch of players in the NFL.
Pick one, or all 3, for each team you mentioned.

Let's move on. This is going hypothetical sideways.

Keep doing great stuff on this site.
 
The recruiting services these days are glazing operations for the most part. It wasn't always like this but the money has corrupted things. Kids are often bumped up if they attend certain camps and if they commit to certain schools (especially SEC schools like Alabama and Texas). Harbaugh showed that these recruiting services are political. Some of the kids playing for ND like Leonard Moore was a 3 star who didn't attend the name brand camps. As long as Mario is consistently recruiting in the top 10 we are more than fine. I could care less about being in the top 4-5 every year.
 
JHallCanes said:
You can pretty much pencil in Penn State for the #15 class in the country every year

Michigan never really a recruiting power but made waves spending money last year

Oregon made the BIG a sudden recruiting power (they really aren’t) not the other way around imo
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Michigan might have the best player evaluations going especially for the OL and DL.
 
NJshoreCane said:
OSU doesn't land recruits because they're in the B1G.

Agree, I never said that.
I did say they would still recruit at very high level.

I'll ask this question again...

If it's just because of the conference, how come Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue, South Carolina, Kentucky, Miss ST, Arkansas, Vanderbilt etc.. don't recruit at the same level as UGA, Bama, LSU, Oh ST, Michigan etc?

The question doesn't relate to my response.
I was talking about going head to head with other heavyweights.
See post #45 above.

So, you too, with all being equal (say, OSU vs Oregon or Texas), think there's no advantage to being in the SEC/BIG as opposed to the ACC.
I disagree with that.
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He literally destroyed you and posted facts. Purdue and those other schools do not benefit from being in those conferences. They are dog ****

Just get your **** together as a university and spend money and no matter what conference you are in you will dominate. They can’t leave the best teams with the best talent out of the playoffs if you win with those players and pass the eye test. It’s that simple

Edit: my bad I thought this was ongoing, it’s already over before I got here. But us moving to a conference would not do anything for our recruiting. We just have to spend more if not we will be what we are.
 
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