How we finish the season is important

[Jedi Master Cane]

Jedi, if I'm understanding correctly, you want Golden to be under as much pressure as possible and really feeling the heat. I do kind of agree with that. The last thing I want is for him to get complacent, and knowing your job is on the line can serve as a great motivator. That has been evident this year after the GT loss. In that regard, him being uncomfortable might be the best thing. However, I think momentum going into next season is far more important, and as I mentioned before, it puts even MORE pressure on Golden to meet raised expectations.

What I am saying is what I've been saying for over a year now...he's not the right guy for job and will not get any better. He is what he is...a conservative simple minded coach who belongs at a small school. He's a great guy....I've met him and he seems like a great human being...but he's a God awful coach.

Every day he stays he further sets the program back. Since we're unfortunately dealing with one of the worst administrations in the country it's going to take something major for them to fire him.

So what I'm saying is...6 or 7 losses would give them something MAJOR to think about this offseason. It's the only thing left to hope for.

Who the **** cares if we beat these last 2 average teams and then win in whatever "toilet" bowl we play in. We'd walk into next season ranked and then proceed to lose 3 or 4 games we have no business losing cause...well....that's what Golden does.

He's something like 2-15 or 2-14 against teams that have finished with 8 or more wins. That's the most damning, telling stat I've seen against a coach.

Anyone attempting to defend him at this point...go root for another program cause you obviously don't care about this one.

 

[pb5cane]

I feel for our players especially the ones leaving Duke, DP, Chick, Dorsett, Walford and others. They carried the load while missing bowl games, post-season play, etc. On top of all that they took a lot of blame and heat along the way. True canes!

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

I feel for our players especially the ones leaving Duke, DP, Chick, Dorsett, Walford and others. They carried the load while missing bowl games, post-season play, etc. On top of all that they took a lot of blame and heat along the way. True canes!

All good players...they deserved a better coaching staff during their time here. My fear is we're going to end up saying the same thing about Kaaya two years from now.

 

[OrangetieFatface]

I feel for our players especially the ones leaving Duke, DP, Chick, Dorsett, Walford and others. They carried the load while missing bowl games, post-season play, etc. On top of all that they took a lot of blame and heat along the way. True canes!

All good players...they deserved a better coaching staff during their time here. My fear is we're going to end up saying the same thing about Kaaya two years from now.

Nah, the slurpers will make sure we blame him like we did Morris after showing some promise early.

 

[maxterofdisaster]

Jedi, if I'm understanding correctly, you want Golden to be under as much pressure as possible and really feeling the heat. I do kind of agree with that. The last thing I want is for him to get complacent, and knowing your job is on the line can serve as a great motivator. That has been evident this year after the GT loss. In that regard, him being uncomfortable might be the best thing. However, I think momentum going into next season is far more important, and as I mentioned before, it puts even MORE pressure on Golden to meet raised expectations.

What I am saying is what I've been saying for over a year now...he's not the right guy for job and will not get any better. He is what he is...a conservative simple minded coach who belongs at a small school. He's a great guy....I've met him and he seems like a great human being...but he's a God awful coach.

Every day he stays he further sets the program back. Since we're unfortunately dealing with one of the worst administrations in the country it's going to take something major for them to fire him.

So what I'm saying is...6 or 7 losses would give them something MAJOR to think about this offseason. It's the only thing left to hope for.

Who the **** cares if we beat these last 2 average teams and then win in whatever "toilet" bowl we play in. We'd walk into next season ranked and then proceed to lose 3 or 4 games we have no business losing cause...well....that's what Golden does.

He's something like 2-15 or 2-14 against teams that have finished with 8 or more wins. That's the most damning, telling stat I've seen against a coach.

Anyone attempting to defend him at this point...go root for another program cause you obviously don't care about this one.

I'm not a Golden defender by any means, and ultimately I want what's best for the program, just as you do. My take is that if Golden is who we fear he is, it will reflect in our performance the remainder of the season. If the Canes beat UVA and Pitt while continuing to show improvement and then go on to beat a ranked opponent in the bowl game, there may be cause to believe he's turned things around. However, if it's the same old Al we've all grown frustrated with, the scenario I described will not unfold.

Try not to get too caught up in the strength of the opponent, particularly in the next two games. I'll be looking at how well we play and what improvements are made more than just winning the games. I'm more interested in how well they execute, their level of aggression, discipline, clock management, penalties, etc. I want to see steady improvement accross the board culminating in a strong bowl performance.

 

[nycane]

i am not a fan of 2015 so far because it doesnt have defensive depth. we are loading up on QB and RB, two areas we are very strong.

 

[scrantoncane]

Jedi, if I'm understanding correctly, you want Golden to be under as much pressure as possible and really feeling the heat. I do kind of agree with that. The last thing I want is for him to get complacent, and knowing your job is on the line can serve as a great motivator. That has been evident this year after the GT loss. In that regard, him being uncomfortable might be the best thing. However, I think momentum going into next season is far more important, and as I mentioned before, it puts even MORE pressure on Golden to meet raised expectations.

What I am saying is what I've been saying for over a year now...he's not the right guy for job and will not get any better. He is what he is...a conservative simple minded coach who belongs at a small school. He's a great guy....I've met him and he seems like a great human being...but he's a God awful coach.

Every day he stays he further sets the program back. Since we're unfortunately dealing with one of the worst administrations in the country it's going to take something major for them to fire him.

So what I'm saying is...6 or 7 losses would give them something MAJOR to think about this offseason. It's the only thing left to hope for.

Who the **** cares if we beat these last 2 average teams and then win in whatever "toilet" bowl we play in. We'd walk into next season ranked and then proceed to lose 3 or 4 games we have no business losing cause...well....that's what Golden does.

He's something like 2-15 or 2-14 against teams that have finished with 8 or more wins. That's the most damning, telling stat I've seen against a coach.

Anyone attempting to defend him at this point...go root for another program cause you obviously don't care about this one.

You constantly reference the administration. Do you seriously not think it is DiMare and the rest of the BOT who calls the shots on the coaches?

Come on, man.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Jedi, if I'm understanding correctly, you want Golden to be under as much pressure as possible and really feeling the heat. I do kind of agree with that. The last thing I want is for him to get complacent, and knowing your job is on the line can serve as a great motivator. That has been evident this year after the GT loss. In that regard, him being uncomfortable might be the best thing. However, I think momentum going into next season is far more important, and as I mentioned before, it puts even MORE pressure on Golden to meet raised expectations.

What I am saying is what I've been saying for over a year now...he's not the right guy for job and will not get any better. He is what he is...a conservative simple minded coach who belongs at a small school. He's a great guy....I've met him and he seems like a great human being...but he's a God awful coach.

Every day he stays he further sets the program back. Since we're unfortunately dealing with one of the worst administrations in the country it's going to take something major for them to fire him.

So what I'm saying is...6 or 7 losses would give them something MAJOR to think about this offseason. It's the only thing left to hope for.

Who the **** cares if we beat these last 2 average teams and then win in whatever "toilet" bowl we play in. We'd walk into next season ranked and then proceed to lose 3 or 4 games we have no business losing cause...well....that's what Golden does.

He's something like 2-15 or 2-14 against teams that have finished with 8 or more wins. That's the most damning, telling stat I've seen against a coach.

Anyone attempting to defend him at this point...go root for another program cause you obviously don't care about this one.

You constantly reference the administration. Do you seriously not think it is DiMare and the rest of the BOT who calls the shots on the coaches?

Come on, man.

It's been speculated a million times over...the point is none of us know the truth.

So I'm done playing detective. When I say "administration" what I'm really saying is "whoever the **** is actually making the decisions".

And whoever that is/are not very good at what they do and are historically slow to act.

Whoever that is will require a major stimulus in order to make a move...what more stimulus can you get than finishing with 2 or 3 losses down the stretch. My basic underlying point has been the same for the last year. We're wasting time rooting for meaningless wins when anyone with half a brain and some semblance of football knowledge knows Golden isn't the answer.

If you're rooting for a win tonight...you need to seriously reassess what you want/expect out of this program for both the short/long term. You referenced being "shortsighted" a while back which I found absolutely laughable since rooting for the Canes at this point, given where we are, is the DEFINITION of being short sighted.

You and I are not in different ballparks...we're on different ******* planets in galaxies nowhere adjacent to each other. I simply cannot and will not get on board with that type of *** backwards thinking. The fact of the matter is we're playing an average to below average team tonight which means will probably will and SHOULD win. But that won't stop me for rooting for what I know in my heart is the best thing for this program.

What must be done eventually, must be done immediately. Digest that.

 

[scrantoncane]

Jedi, if I'm understanding correctly, you want Golden to be under as much pressure as possible and really feeling the heat. I do kind of agree with that. The last thing I want is for him to get complacent, and knowing your job is on the line can serve as a great motivator. That has been evident this year after the GT loss. In that regard, him being uncomfortable might be the best thing. However, I think momentum going into next season is far more important, and as I mentioned before, it puts even MORE pressure on Golden to meet raised expectations.

What I am saying is what I've been saying for over a year now...he's not the right guy for job and will not get any better. He is what he is...a conservative simple minded coach who belongs at a small school. He's a great guy....I've met him and he seems like a great human being...but he's a God awful coach.

Every day he stays he further sets the program back. Since we're unfortunately dealing with one of the worst administrations in the country it's going to take something major for them to fire him.

So what I'm saying is...6 or 7 losses would give them something MAJOR to think about this offseason. It's the only thing left to hope for.

Who the **** cares if we beat these last 2 average teams and then win in whatever "toilet" bowl we play in. We'd walk into next season ranked and then proceed to lose 3 or 4 games we have no business losing cause...well....that's what Golden does.

He's something like 2-15 or 2-14 against teams that have finished with 8 or more wins. That's the most damning, telling stat I've seen against a coach.

Anyone attempting to defend him at this point...go root for another program cause you obviously don't care about this one.

You constantly reference the administration. Do you seriously not think it is DiMare and the rest of the BOT who calls the shots on the coaches?

Come on, man.

It's been speculated a million times over...the point is none of us no the truth.

So I'm done playing detective. When I say "administration" what I'm really saying is "whoever the **** is actually making the decisions".

And whoever that is/are not very good at what they do and are historically slow to act.

Whoever that is will require a major stimulus in order to make a move...what more stimulus can you get than finishing with 2 or 3 losses down the stretch. My basic underlying point has been the same for the last year. We're wasting time rooting for meaningless wins when anyone with half a brain and some semblance of football knowledge knows Golden isn't the answer.

If you're rooting for a win tonight...you need to seriously reassess what you want/expect out of this program for both the short/long term. You referenced being "shortsighted" a while back which I found absolutely laughable since rooting for the Canes at this point, given where we are, is the DEFINITION of being short sighted.

You and I are not in different ballparks...we're on different ****ing planets in galaxies nowhere adjacent to each other. I simply cannot and will not get on board with that type of *** backwards thinking. The fact of the matter is we're playing an average to below average team tonight which means will probably will and SHOULD win. But that won't stop me for rooting for what I know in my heart is the best thing for this program.

What must be done eventually, must be done immediately. Digest that.

If you're rooting for UVA, then why are you posting here instead of their boards?

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Jedi, if I'm understanding correctly, you want Golden to be under as much pressure as possible and really feeling the heat. I do kind of agree with that. The last thing I want is for him to get complacent, and knowing your job is on the line can serve as a great motivator. That has been evident this year after the GT loss. In that regard, him being uncomfortable might be the best thing. However, I think momentum going into next season is far more important, and as I mentioned before, it puts even MORE pressure on Golden to meet raised expectations.

What I am saying is what I've been saying for over a year now...he's not the right guy for job and will not get any better. He is what he is...a conservative simple minded coach who belongs at a small school. He's a great guy....I've met him and he seems like a great human being...but he's a God awful coach.

Every day he stays he further sets the program back. Since we're unfortunately dealing with one of the worst administrations in the country it's going to take something major for them to fire him.

So what I'm saying is...6 or 7 losses would give them something MAJOR to think about this offseason. It's the only thing left to hope for.

Who the **** cares if we beat these last 2 average teams and then win in whatever "toilet" bowl we play in. We'd walk into next season ranked and then proceed to lose 3 or 4 games we have no business losing cause...well....that's what Golden does.

He's something like 2-15 or 2-14 against teams that have finished with 8 or more wins. That's the most damning, telling stat I've seen against a coach.

Anyone attempting to defend him at this point...go root for another program cause you obviously don't care about this one.

You constantly reference the administration. Do you seriously not think it is DiMare and the rest of the BOT who calls the shots on the coaches?

Come on, man.

It's been speculated a million times over...the point is none of us no the truth.

So I'm done playing detective. When I say "administration" what I'm really saying is "whoever the **** is actually making the decisions".

And whoever that is/are not very good at what they do and are historically slow to act.

Whoever that is will require a major stimulus in order to make a move...what more stimulus can you get than finishing with 2 or 3 losses down the stretch. My basic underlying point has been the same for the last year. We're wasting time rooting for meaningless wins when anyone with half a brain and some semblance of football knowledge knows Golden isn't the answer.

If you're rooting for a win tonight...you need to seriously reassess what you want/expect out of this program for both the short/long term. You referenced being "shortsighted" a while back which I found absolutely laughable since rooting for the Canes at this point, given where we are, is the DEFINITION of being short sighted.

You and I are not in different ballparks...we're on different ****ing planets in galaxies nowhere adjacent to each other. I simply cannot and will not get on board with that type of *** backwards thinking. The fact of the matter is we're playing an average to below average team tonight which means will probably will and SHOULD win. But that won't stop me for rooting for what I know in my heart is the best thing for this program.

What must be done eventually, must be done immediately. Digest that.

If you're rooting for UVA, then why are you posting here instead of their boards?

Because rooting for UVA is rooting for the Canes.

 

[4Canes]

What I am saying is what I've been saying for over a year now...he's not the right guy for job and will not get any better. He is what he is...a conservative simple minded coach who belongs at a small school. He's a great guy....I've met him and he seems like a great human being...but he's a God awful coach.

Every day he stays he further sets the program back. Since we're unfortunately dealing with one of the worst administrations in the country it's going to take something major for them to fire him.

So what I'm saying is...6 or 7 losses would give them something MAJOR to think about this offseason. It's the only thing left to hope for.

Who the **** cares if we beat these last 2 average teams and then win in whatever "toilet" bowl we play in. We'd walk into next season ranked and then proceed to lose 3 or 4 games we have no business losing cause...well....that's what Golden does.

He's something like 2-15 or 2-14 against teams that have finished with 8 or more wins. That's the most damning, telling stat I've seen against a coach.

Anyone attempting to defend him at this point...go root for another program cause you obviously don't care about this one.

You constantly reference the administration. Do you seriously not think it is DiMare and the rest of the BOT who calls the shots on the coaches?

Come on, man.

It's been speculated a million times over...the point is none of us no the truth.

So I'm done playing detective. When I say "administration" what I'm really saying is "whoever the **** is actually making the decisions".

And whoever that is/are not very good at what they do and are historically slow to act.

Whoever that is will require a major stimulus in order to make a move...what more stimulus can you get than finishing with 2 or 3 losses down the stretch. My basic underlying point has been the same for the last year. We're wasting time rooting for meaningless wins when anyone with half a brain and some semblance of football knowledge knows Golden isn't the answer.

If you're rooting for a win tonight...you need to seriously reassess what you want/expect out of this program for both the short/long term. You referenced being "shortsighted" a while back which I found absolutely laughable since rooting for the Canes at this point, given where we are, is the DEFINITION of being short sighted.

You and I are not in different ballparks...we're on different ****ing planets in galaxies nowhere adjacent to each other. I simply cannot and will not get on board with that type of *** backwards thinking. The fact of the matter is we're playing an average to below average team tonight which means will probably will and SHOULD win. But that won't stop me for rooting for what I know in my heart is the best thing for this program.

What must be done eventually, must be done immediately. Digest that.

If you're rooting for UVA, then why are you posting here instead of their boards?

Because rooting for UVA is rooting for the Canes.

Bull****, it's as the kids say, a punk ***** move.

You're not a fan if you ever root for your team to lose.
It amazes me how myopic and narrow minded some of the "fans" on this board are.

 

[JerzeyCane5]

Very big for this team to finish strong ... Young qb young depth and talent... Recruiting class...

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

You constantly reference the administration. Do you seriously not think it is DiMare and the rest of the BOT who calls the shots on the coaches?

Come on, man.

It's been speculated a million times over...the point is none of us no the truth.

So I'm done playing detective. When I say "administration" what I'm really saying is "whoever the **** is actually making the decisions".

And whoever that is/are not very good at what they do and are historically slow to act.

Whoever that is will require a major stimulus in order to make a move...what more stimulus can you get than finishing with 2 or 3 losses down the stretch. My basic underlying point has been the same for the last year. We're wasting time rooting for meaningless wins when anyone with half a brain and some semblance of football knowledge knows Golden isn't the answer.

If you're rooting for a win tonight...you need to seriously reassess what you want/expect out of this program for both the short/long term. You referenced being "shortsighted" a while back which I found absolutely laughable since rooting for the Canes at this point, given where we are, is the DEFINITION of being short sighted.

You and I are not in different ballparks...we're on different ****ing planets in galaxies nowhere adjacent to each other. I simply cannot and will not get on board with that type of *** backwards thinking. The fact of the matter is we're playing an average to below average team tonight which means will probably will and SHOULD win. But that won't stop me for rooting for what I know in my heart is the best thing for this program.

What must be done eventually, must be done immediately. Digest that.

If you're rooting for UVA, then why are you posting here instead of their boards?

Because rooting for UVA is rooting for the Canes.

Bull****, it's as the kids say, a punk ***** move.

You're not a fan if you ever root for your team to lose.
It amazes me how myopic and narrow minded some of the "fans" on this board are.

That's funny cause I don't consider "your types" to be a fans...at least not very intelligent ones anyways.

You're reactive clueless sheep. It's funny cause it mirrors the decision makers for this program over the last decade.

Let's go VA

 

[gibby013]

I'm surprised nobody brings up is the fact that if we lose the next two games, we will be playing in a crap bowl against a crap team in a game that will be **** near impossible to lose and Folden will inexplicably say we have momentum and progress going into next season due to winning our first bowl game I years. Blake James will echo that sentiment and round and round we go.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

I'm surprised nobody brings up is the fact that if we lose the next two games, we will be playing in a crap bowl against a crap team in a game that will be **** near impossible to lose and Folden will inexplicably say we have momentum and progress going into next season due to winning our first bowl game I years. Blake James will echo that sentiment and round and round we go.

Eh....6 losses is still 6 losses, especially in year 4.

I disagree with your assessment. I think if those things do come to pass he'll be under a **** of a lot of heat....especially in the month leading up to that ****** bowl. Nobody will even care what happens in that bowl game at that point.

 

[gibby013]

Let's hope brother. Just don't have a lick of faith in the "administration" or BOT at this point.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

D$:

Could you please ask those in the know why the white guy is getting a pass for the same exact results the black guy got fired for?

Shannon: 5-7, 7-6, 9-4, 7-6 (With a loss to South Florida)
Golden: 6-6, 7-6, 9-4, (My guess) 9-4

I would be okay with a new coaching staff but these are not the exact same results so let's not try the racist angle.

 

[4Canes]

It's been speculated a million times over...the point is none of us no the truth.

So I'm done playing detective. When I say "administration" what I'm really saying is "whoever the **** is actually making the decisions".

And whoever that is/are not very good at what they do and are historically slow to act.

Whoever that is will require a major stimulus in order to make a move...what more stimulus can you get than finishing with 2 or 3 losses down the stretch. My basic underlying point has been the same for the last year. We're wasting time rooting for meaningless wins when anyone with half a brain and some semblance of football knowledge knows Golden isn't the answer.

If you're rooting for a win tonight...you need to seriously reassess what you want/expect out of this program for both the short/long term. You referenced being "shortsighted" a while back which I found absolutely laughable since rooting for the Canes at this point, given where we are, is the DEFINITION of being short sighted.

You and I are not in different ballparks...we're on different ****ing planets in galaxies nowhere adjacent to each other. I simply cannot and will not get on board with that type of *** backwards thinking. The fact of the matter is we're playing an average to below average team tonight which means will probably will and SHOULD win. But that won't stop me for rooting for what I know in my heart is the best thing for this program.

What must be done eventually, must be done immediately. Digest that.

If you're rooting for UVA, then why are you posting here instead of their boards?

Because rooting for UVA is rooting for the Canes.

Bull****, it's as the kids say, a punk **** move.

You're not a fan if you ever root for your team to lose.
It amazes me how myopic and narrow minded some of the "fans" on this board are.

That's funny cause I don't consider "your types" to be a fans...at least not very intelligent ones anyways.

You're reactive clueless sheep. It's funny cause it mirrors the decision makers for this program over the last decade.

Let's go VA

See your problem is you think the program is about you, not the players.
I want the team to win for the seniors and kids who have given their all to keep us entertained. At the end of the day once they're playing time is over, it's over and the next coach doesn't affect them.
They deserve to win out and a bowl, losses guarantee nothing, and likely won't result in a change anyway.

 

[SmokeyRone]

We are already finished. The recruiting class will nosedive even if we beat tough UVA and Pitt.


We are irrelevent, gonna play some November bowl that nobody watches, and the new coach of UF will homeskool Golden and steal any Cane commits he wants, that Jimbo doesn't switch first.

 

[OzarCaneSaw]

I'm surprised nobody brings up is the fact that if we lose the next two games, we will be playing in a crap bowl against a crap team in a game that will be **** near impossible to lose and Folden will inexplicably say we have momentum and progress going into next season due to winning our first bowl game I years. Blake James will echo that sentiment and round and round we go.

6-6 doesn't guarantee a bowl invite though. Just means you're bowl eligible.