How to attract an elite coach???

[pimpcane1]

Spend on your facilities and offer a competitive salary, both of those have to occur to attract someone like Patterson, Harbaugh, Myer, Saban, ect to leave their current cushy gigs to come to the U.

If you want to go bargin basement shopping you will end up with inherent risky hires such as Coker, Shannon, Golden

 

[FullyERicht]

Simple. You offer them a salary commensurate to their abilities. Simple.

 

[MIATL513]

Doesn't matter what we offer ... An elite head coach is not leaving their current situation to come to Miami.

Times are different from the days of Howard and Jimmy.

We're either getting a coordinator from an elite program, or an "up and comer" from a mid-major.

 

[FullyERicht]

Doesn't matter what we offer ... An elite head coach is not leaving their current situation to come to Miami.

Times are different from the days of Howard and Jimmy.

We're either getting a coordinator from an elite program, or an "up and comer" from a mid-major.

LMFAO coaches go to programs that A) pay B) are easy to win at.

If u offered a great coach money he deserves, he'd come here. In other words, you are ******* retarded.

 

[pimpcane1]

Simple. You offer them a salary commensurate to their abilities. Simple.

You think Patterson comes here to coach at the U knowing he won't get fan/alumni support for facility upgrades just for maybe a million more? NO because it makes his job that much harder when he is competing against the other schools for recruits.

TCU became a good football program when thier fans/alumni invested into the program and paid their coach a competitive salary to stay at TCU.

 

[MIATL513]

Doesn't matter what we offer ... An elite head coach is not leaving their current situation to come to Miami.

Times are different from the days of Howard and Jimmy.

We're either getting a coordinator from an elite program, or an "up and comer" from a mid-major.

LMFAO coaches go to programs that A) pay B) are easy to win at.

If u offered a great coach money he deserves, he'd come here. In other words, you are ******* retarded.

You clearly don't make big money ...

At a certain point, salary, alone, means NOTHING.

Texas offered Saban $10MM ... He didn't leave Bama.

Coaches go where they have the resources to compete ... And if they already have that, why leave?

And being a place they can win requires more resources than just a "fertile recruiting ground".

But keep living in the 80's, thinking what worked then, will work today ...

 

[FullyERicht]

Simple. You offer them a salary commensurate to their abilities. Simple.

You think Patterson comes here to coach at the U knowing he won't get fan/alumni support for facility upgrades just for maybe a million more? NO because it makes his job that much harder when he is competing against the other schools for recruits.

TCU became a good football program when thier fans/alumni invested into the program and paid their coach a competitive salary to stay at TCU.

If you think for a second it's easier to recruit and win big at TCU than Miami you should be subject to a IQ test.

In case you haven't noticed, Miami's football stadium is being upgraded, as are our facilities. Pay a good coach to come here and he will. But you have to pay.

 

[FullyERicht]

Doesn't matter what we offer ... An elite head coach is not leaving their current situation to come to Miami.

Times are different from the days of Howard and Jimmy.

We're either getting a coordinator from an elite program, or an "up and comer" from a mid-major.

LMFAO coaches go to programs that A) pay B) are easy to win at.

If u offered a great coach money he deserves, he'd come here. In other words, you are ****ing retarded.

You clearly don't make big money ...

At a certain point, salary, alone, means NOTHING.

Texas offered Saban $10MM ... He didn't leave Bama.

Coaches go where they have the resources to compete ... And if they already have that, why leave?

And being a place they can win requires more resources than just a "fertile recruiting ground".

But keep living in the 80's, thinking what worked then, will work today ...

Jesus another one of these morons who thinks for some reason it doesn't work today. The issue is COACHING. Thats why it appears like "it isn't the 80s". Have you seen where Miami plays? The facilities? NOT ONE KID IS TURNING DOWN MIAMI BC OF THE SIZE OF THE PLAYERS BATHROOM.

Miami has more natural resources than any school in the country. It's why we were able to win with 4 different HCs. The key is those HCs have to be great coaches. They can't be Al ******* Golden and Larry ******* Coker and Randy ******* Shannon.

Hire a great coach and in two years we'd be back.

 

[MIATL513]

Simple. You offer them a salary commensurate to their abilities. Simple.

You think Patterson comes here to coach at the U knowing he won't get fan/alumni support for facility upgrades just for maybe a million more? NO because it makes his job that much harder when he is competing against the other schools for recruits.

TCU became a good football program when thier fans/alumni invested into the program and paid their coach a competitive salary to stay at TCU.

If you think for a second it's easier to recruit and win big at TCU than Miami you should be subject to a IQ test.

In case you haven't noticed, Miami's football stadium is being upgraded, as are our facilities. Pay a good coach to come here and he will. But you have to pay.

TCU finished #3 in the country ... Miami finished in the 60s ...

If you think Miami is closer/easier to "win big", you're the one needing the IQ test ...

And Ft. Worth, Texas is to Dallas, what Coral Gables is to Miami ... It's not really that difficult to recruit there ... Especially now that the school has committed resources.

And check the stats ... The state of Texas produces the most college recruits in the country. And those kids like to stay in-state.

 

[FullyERicht]

No one is saying get Saban or Meyer. They are at elite brand schools paying massive salaries and dont have anything left to prove.

But there are dozens of great coaches out there who aren't at elite brand schools, who will likely never win titles at their current schools, with lots to prove. Find one a pay him.

Dantonio, Bohl, Patterson, Peterson, Petrino, Butch; just the big names off the top of my head that will never win where they are at (save maybe Patterson), and have something to still prove. Any of those guys would turn us around EASILY. But you have to pay them and pay for their staffs.

 

[FullyERicht]

Simple. You offer them a salary commensurate to their abilities. Simple.

You think Patterson comes here to coach at the U knowing he won't get fan/alumni support for facility upgrades just for maybe a million more? NO because it makes his job that much harder when he is competing against the other schools for recruits.

TCU became a good football program when thier fans/alumni invested into the program and paid their coach a competitive salary to stay at TCU.

If you think for a second it's easier to recruit and win big at TCU than Miami you should be subject to a IQ test.

In case you haven't noticed, Miami's football stadium is being upgraded, as are our facilities. Pay a good coach to come here and he will. But you have to pay.

TCU finished #3 in the country ... Miami finished in the 60s ...

If you think Miami is closer/easier to "win big, you're the one needing the IQ test ...

And Ft. Worth, Texas is to Dallas, what Coral Gables is to Miami ... It's not really that difficult to recruit there ... Especially now that the school has committed resources.

And check the stats ... The state of Texas produces the most college recruits in the country. And those kids like to stay in-state.

TCU has never and will never get the type of recruits South Florida puts out. Never has never will.

At this point, we missed the boat on Patterson. He's so good he transformed that program. But we had our chance at him back in 2006 and in 2010. We just chose to go the cheap route.

 

[luke137]

We don't need elite. Just competent. Sorry...venomously ****ed off right now after watching Chick kick *** at the Shrine and say...If I would have only played in a 4-3 scheme. Paraphrasing.

 

[MIATL513]

Doesn't matter what we offer ... An elite head coach is not leaving their current situation to come to Miami.

Times are different from the days of Howard and Jimmy.

We're either getting a coordinator from an elite program, or an "up and comer" from a mid-major.

LMFAO coaches go to programs that A) pay B) are easy to win at.

If u offered a great coach money he deserves, he'd come here. In other words, you are ****ing retarded.

You clearly don't make big money ...

At a certain point, salary, alone, means NOTHING.

Texas offered Saban $10MM ... He didn't leave Bama.

Coaches go where they have the resources to compete ... And if they already have that, why leave?

And being a place they can win requires more resources than just a "fertile recruiting ground".

But keep living in the 80's, thinking what worked then, will work today ...

Jesus another one of these morons who thinks for some reason it doesn't work today. The issue is COACHING. Thats why it appears like "it isn't the 80s". Have you seen where Miami plays? The facilities? NOT ONE KID IS TURNING DOWN MIAMI BC OF THE SIZE OF THE PLAYERS BATHROOM.

Miami has more natural resources than any school in the country. It's why we were able to win with 4 different HCs. The key is those HCs have to be great coaches. They can't be Al ******* Golden and Larry ******* Coker and Randy ******* Shannon.

Hire a great coach and in two years we'd be back.

The program won with 4 coaches because it was a different day ...

Howard was ahead of his time as a HC in college. He was running NFL stuff. That's not a big deal anymore.

Jimmy Johnson was an "up and comer". He's was getting beat, regularly in the Big 8. He was not an elite coach, when he was hired.

Dennis Erickson finished 9th and 3rd in the PAC-12 at WASU ... Again, not an elite coach.

And Butch was able to strike lighting with the team he put together.

The only plan that can be repeated is to grab a coordinator or "up and comer", and hope to be right again.

But no established, elite, coach is coming to Miami just because we write a big check. It's not gonna happen.

Where I do agree with you ... It won't take long to know when we have the right guy.

 

[pimpcane1]

Simple. You offer them a salary commensurate to their abilities. Simple.

You think Patterson comes here to coach at the U knowing he won't get fan/alumni support for facility upgrades just for maybe a million more? NO because it makes his job that much harder when he is competing against the other schools for recruits.

TCU became a good football program when thier fans/alumni invested into the program and paid their coach a competitive salary to stay at TCU.

If you think for a second it's easier to recruit and win big at TCU than Miami you should be subject to a IQ test.

In case you haven't noticed, Miami's football stadium is being upgraded, as are our facilities. Pay a good coach to come here and he will. But you have to pay.

Well if TCU wins the title next year it will be easier for them to recruit than it would be at Miami. All we have over them at the current moment is history. These days kids go to schools for the coaches, facilities, and football history/school prestige.

If you think that stadium is permanent solution well I don't think I can help you out. But lets go with that premise for a little bit. Miami is still lacking an Indoor Football Facility, which most schools including TCU has.

 

[MIATL513]

No one is saying get Saban or Meyer. They are at elite brand schools paying massive salaries and dont have anything left to prove.

But there are dozens of great coaches out there who aren't at elite brand schools, who will likely never win titles at their current schools, with lots to prove. Find one a pay him.

Dantonio, Bohl, Patterson, Peterson, Petrino, Butch; just the big names off the top of my head that will never win where they are at (save maybe Patterson), and have something to still prove. Any of those guys would turn us around EASILY. But you have to pay them and pay for their staffs.

It's a different day.

There is no promise of winning at Miami, based on the current landscape of college football. Everybody gets South Florida recruits ... And it will never be possible to keep all of the talent.

Those guys you list, except Butch, aren't coming just because we offer a big check. Maybe Petrino does ... But those others have zero interest in being in Miami, IMO.

 

[dcornelius]

who would you rather have a offensive guru or a defensive mastermind

 

[pimpcane1]

Doesn't matter what we offer ... An elite head coach is not leaving their current situation to come to Miami.

Times are different from the days of Howard and Jimmy.

We're either getting a coordinator from an elite program, or an "up and comer" from a mid-major.

LMFAO coaches go to programs that A) pay B) are easy to win at.

If u offered a great coach money he deserves, he'd come here. In other words, you are ****ing retarded.

You clearly don't make big money ...

At a certain point, salary, alone, means NOTHING.

Texas offered Saban $10MM ... He didn't leave Bama.

Coaches go where they have the resources to compete ... And if they already have that, why leave?

And being a place they can win requires more resources than just a "fertile recruiting ground".

But keep living in the 80's, thinking what worked then, will work today ...

Jesus another one of these morons who thinks for some reason it doesn't work today. The issue is COACHING. Thats why it appears like "it isn't the 80s". Have you seen where Miami plays? The facilities? NOT ONE KID IS TURNING DOWN MIAMI BC OF THE SIZE OF THE PLAYERS BATHROOM.

Miami has more natural resources than any school in the country. It's why we were able to win with 4 different HCs. The key is those HCs have to be great coaches. They can't be Al ****ing Golden and Larry ****ing Coker and Randy ****ing Shannon.

Hire a great coach and in two years we'd be back.

The program won with 4 coaches because it was a different day ...

Howard was ahead of his time as a HC in college. He was running NFL stuff. That's not a big deal anymore.

Jimmy Johnson was an "up and comer". He's was getting beat, regularly in the Big 8. He was not an elite coach, when he was hired.

Dennis Erickson finished 9th and 3rd in the PAC-12 at WASU ... Again, not an elite coach.

And Butch was able to strike lighting with the team he put together.

The only plan that can be repeated is to grab a coordinator or "up and comer", and hope to be right again.

But no established, elite, coach is coming to Miami just because we write a big check. It's not gonna happen.

Where I do agree with you ... It won't take long to know when we have the right guy.

I agree with most of this except, schools have become smarter about protecting their investment into the sports program including large buyouts for their coaches. So even getting an up and comer like a Jimmy costs a lot of money now and days. UF paid five something million to buy out Jim Freaking McElwain out of his contract. Could you imagine what Dantonio's contract would cost to buy him out (assuming he agreed to come here)?

University these days are using their ability to spot talent to make money.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Hire Butch.

He'll come for the same money as Golden's getting, BUT, we need a big bump in the money he can use to buy a couple of top coordinators.

Problems solved.

 

[LuCane]

You offer them an opportunity to blast themselves into the top stratosphere of coaching by taking the world's greatest access to talent and challenging them to do something with it. Not complicated.

 

[FullyERicht]

Jimmy Johnson had an incredible pedigree as a coach before the OSU gig. Read up on him before you comment on his career.

Al Golden is easily the least qualified HC we have had in my lifetime.