How rebuildable is Miami after 10 years of sucking

[Pearson704]

Miami is and always will be one coach away from elite due to its location.

This!

All we need a is an elite coach. Hopefully the next coach will be elite.

Name another HC with two Heisman winning QBs under his tutelage as a coordinator.. Who has won more games than him in last 15 years? Who has sent more talent to the NFL in last 15 years? This isn't Athens, Ga. This is the University of Miami!

 

[kmwcane]

Alabama went from 1992 until 2009 without a national title. USC went from 1978 to 2003 without a national title.

Fairly soon 17 years and 25 years are going to look like very short durations. We're already at 14 and counting, and only 1 in 24...

I think we'll settle into second tier status, somewhere where our current recruiting rankings suggests. Losing the Orange Bowl was devastating. We don't have the century-deep prestige or national aura of programs like USC or Alabama, which are always eligible to rebound in a major way, regardless of short term trivia.

The first step is to restore the power ranking a crucial 7-10 points. That provides some breathing room above mid level ACC teams and allows preseason ranking, which is crucial to regaining spotlight and legitimacy.

Once again Awsi makes a fool of himself... and in much shorter fashion than his normal page long buffonery!

Miami doesn't have a national aura??? What nation are you referring to because it certainly is not the United States.

Losing the Orange Bowl was sad but has absolutely no bearing on why Miami has been losing. Miami's woes are solely the result of poor coaching. The Orange Bowl did not and would not make Coker, Shannon and/or Golden better coaches.

 

[RoCanes]

Coker was "Far" from being an elite coach,but he had "elite" talent on "a one of kind team" 2001 Miami Hurricanes,thus winning a Natty.

Iam sure even you would concur on Coker.

 

[SmokeyRone]

Miami is and always will be one coach away from elite due to its location.

This!

All we need a is an elite coach. Hopefully the next coach will be elite.

Name another HC with two Heisman winning QBs under his tutelage as a coordinator.. Who has won more games than him in last 15 years? Who has sent more talent to the NFL in last 15 years? This isn't Athens, Ga. This is the University of Miami!

Richt is NOT an elite coach. That is certain. He is a certified under performer, and a happy, lose with a smile, feel good coach, but if he was elite, he would have dominated the awful SEC East for all but two Urban/Tebow seasons. Missouri and Muschump going to SEC CGs over Richt was like Duke winning the Coastal over Golden.

And UGA saw the writing on the wall, that Richt was gonna be Donkey Teeths byatch forever.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Miami has had ONE elite coach. We can win with good coaches

 

[Destruction]

Miami is and always will be one coach away from elite due to its location.

This!

All we need a is an elite coach. Hopefully the next coach will be elite.

Name another HC with two Heisman winning QBs under his tutelage as a coordinator.. Who has won more games than him in last 15 years? Who has sent more talent to the NFL in last 15 years? This isn't Athens, Ga. This is the University of Miami!

As an OC, Richt did not coach two Heismans! As a HC, Richt did not coach any Heisman QBs. As a HC, Richt hasn't won JackSh*t in 10+years.

 

[SmokeyRone]

Miami is and always will be one coach away from elite due to its location.

This!

All we need a is an elite coach. Hopefully the next coach will be elite.

Name another HC with two Heisman winning QBs under his tutelage as a coordinator.. Who has won more games than him in last 15 years? Who has sent more talent to the NFL in last 15 years? This isn't Athens, Ga. This is the University of Miami!

As an OC, Richt did not coach two Heismans! As a HC, Richt did not coach any Heisman QBs. As a HC, Richt hasn't won JackSh*t in 10+years.

Yep. Thinking Richt is somehow gonna be some Elite playcaller is like believing Diaz is somehow going to NOT get run out of the stadium against good teams on defense. The history just doesnt support it.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

This site really needs to do something about these multiple screen name trolls.

Looking at you destruction. Freaking thirteen year olds hoping on other names just to agree with yourself.

 

[bxcanesbomber]

It was the coaches and the cloud now we're a full go

 

[Billy D Williams]

Fellow Fans,

Here is what I would offer...

- In today's hyper saturated social media market, "location" is nation-wide; if locale and the recruits were as critical, the LA and SoFla based schools would have a significant, and almost unsurmountable, recruiting advantage...I'd go so far as say lock
- Why else would an urban athlete go to Alabama? Kid from NYC or Chicago play bball in....Kansas?
- Athletes today (bell curve majority) want to go where they can play and be "developed" by "successful" programs...all things equal, they will choose same programs where they can play early and often
- If play early and often were the true driving factor, FIU and FAU would have a bumper crop of ***** players on the list for NSD
- Development as a "person" might be important to some players and parents; just not sure how to quantify how much so
- If true driving factor, elite academic schools would pull in more..again...my HS was more academically rigorous than Bama, Ole Miss, Miss St, etc...so much so that most of my freshman class could have thrived in those "college level" environments

With the above said, I think two of the biggest driving factors are the program's "success" rate coupled with the staff's charisma and ability to close the sales pitch. Saban, Miles, Fisher, Harbaugh, Richt et al are known (different reasons) as great program salesmen.

Time will tell if Richt can have a few bounces his way, maximize his well known closings, and posture Miami for the greatest chances of CD, ACCCG, and CFP success.

This recruiting class is only a minor indicator; 2017 and 2018 we really be dashboard lights as to what direction our Hurricanes are headed.

I can agree with this mostly, with the exception that a winning program in a hotbed of a talent rich area like SoFl, has a distinct advantage over a program even like Bama. Bama's resurrection happens to correlate with The U's decline, all of which can be attributed to the university's not investing in the program $$$ and facilities etc. Understand there is a high probability that some of Bama's recent recruits from SoFl would "probably" be Canes had the program been better managed and a commitment made to remaining competitive in all facets.

I think we can all see a direct correlation with a focus on improving the facilities, budgets $$, admin staffing and a big name, respected head coach and staff, with increased interest and better recruits. Given the early commitments, obvious interest by many of the best talents in SoFl, better evaluations, better recruiting strategies & recruiters, coaching and likely more victories, it's reasonable to "predict" that The U's stock is one you may want to get in early on because it will rise.

 

[MiamiJoe]

Miami has had ONE elite coach. We can win with good coaches

You obviously don't know history because Howard was our best coach, followed by Jimmy and Dennis who were also elite.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Miami has had ONE elite coach. We can win with good coaches

You obviously don't know history because Howard was our best coach, followed by Jimmy and Dennis who were also elite.

Jimmy was elite. Howard was great but you don't reach elite status with a few seasons as a successful coach. If he would have stayed he would have surely reached that status. Dennis was not elite. He won with the players here and let scandal run wild. Never had great success after Miami. Jimmy is our only coach who kept winning big after a short stint here. He's the only elite coach we've had.

 

[nebcane]

Richt will turn this ship around next year if he can do what a good coach does - maximize his talent. He has some horses to work with.

Just looking at who he hired for coaches and how they are attacking recruiting speaks volumes about where this team is headed.

Richt should have a chip on his shoulder as he never reached the top of the mountain. That is not always a bad thing.

 

[imurcane]

I do agree that Richt isn't elite. I do think he is very good.

I want him to coach some big games for us! What I really want to see is an ability to not lose a game here and there that should be won.

Then he can work on those big game experiences.

Btw what does it say about CMR if he wins it all in Miami before Uga does?

 

[Canedog]

The got dam question on da table is how rebuild able is Miami; I will provide the answer since you children have ADD and are so easily distracted. On a scale of 1 to 10 the answer is .... 6.5. Now have a good day.

 

[FireSwasey]

It's very rebuildable. The plan has been laid out before over and over again. The smart coaches like JJ, Dennis, and Butch followed that program. The dumb and stubborn ones like Coker, Randy, and Golden, didn't.

Don't chase star recruits. Don't chase high school positions. Don't have your staff built as a recruiting first staff.

Offer the best athletes in Florida and teach them the position that their frame/mentality best fits. It's really a very proven, easy to follow blueprint.

We'll see if Richt follows it.

 

[kalinis]

It's not like this is 2007 when Shannon took over after we had only been poor for one season and recruits would have been very familiar with our 2000-2002 teams. At that point in time I think a decent coach easily could have turned us around quickly. It's not even like this is 2011 when Golden become coach after we had sucked for five seasons. At this point we have been poor for 10 seasons and that is pretty much the only thing recruits are going to be familiar with. The 12th graders who will be signing in a few days were 2nd graders when we last had a decent season in 2005 (which seemed like a bad season at the time) and were in preschool during the 2001-2002 seasons. They wouldn't even know about our former prestige unless they either had a parent who attended UM or they're the sporting nerd of the school who's memorized every single national champion since the AP Poll began in 1936.

this is dumbest thing ever. baylor has 0 history of sucess no titles sucked for decades look at them now. to act like success in 10 yr period matters dumb. louisville built from ground up 0 history, tcu, list goes on and on

 

[sdaly]

success and commitment start at the Top new President Fenk(spelling?) and BOT decided to spend money on HC and staff.
we lost the Wisconsin DC to LSU but offered 3 years at apx. 1m guaranteed . Credit Goldie with improving facilities and only thing we lack is indoor football facility. Early returns on recruiting trail look very good as we are winning and losing players that top notch schools are recruiting not USF
Rutgers etc. The philosophy of attacking on Offense and Defense will be greatly appreciated by S.Fla HS coaches and we will start to keep players home as we start to win again. We really have not had an top notch staff since Butch and his crew left town.
Donna defunded program almost to the point of irrelevance & now Richt and staff will get us back on track
new President comment at Richt presser was key football is not something we do but part of we are spoke volumes to long suffering Canes fans

 

[SmokeyRone]

Who knows? Richt may be really hungry and eager to prove himself and win. Kinda looks like it. May NOT be the tired, complacent tap out he was at UGA for the last 7 or more years.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Who knows? Richt may be really hungry and eager to prove himself and win. Kinda looks like it. May NOT be the tired, complacent tap out he was at UGA for the last 7 or more years.

Last 7 or more years. A good troll would at least know he was just a dumb Aaron Murray play from the national championship like three years ago.