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You guys are correct. My mistake. Judging from his speaking articulation he is an obvious choice for an English literature professor. He is scrong as anybody in his class. Earnest Hemingway- Look out!
 
he will make a great tackling dummy for Chad Thomas, Tyriq McCord, and Anthony Chickillo.

oh and a few of the DBs will get it in too.
 
Mentioned it in another thread.
Jimbo designs plays for one read. That one player is open by play design and thus makes it look easy, especially in a pro-system.
This why Ponder and Ej Manuel are hot garbage in the NFL and were exceptional in NCAA. No full field awareness. Last year he had studs receivers (as shown by Kalvin Benjamin looking good for Carolina too) so they made him look real good too.
Name me one QB in the NFL that Jimbo coached that is good? LSU? Nope!
Like another poster said, pretty slow delivery, still has a bit of a baseball wind up. Not particularly great pocket presence, he's just athletic, rather then aware of the pocket. (Think the difference between RG3 and Andrew Luck)
I expect him to take the same path as Manuel.
 
Arehel said:
Mentioned it in another thread.
Jimbo designs plays for one read. That one player is open by play design and thus makes it look easy, especially in a pro-system.
This why Ponder and Ej Manuel are hot garbage in the NFL and were exceptional in NCAA. No full field awareness. Last year he had studs receivers (as shown by Kalvin Benjamin looking good for Carolina too) so they made him look real good too.
Name me one QB in the NFL that Jimbo coached that is good? LSU? Nope!
Like another poster said, pretty slow delivery, still has a bit of a baseball wind up. Not particularly great pocket presence, he's just athletic, rather then aware of the pocket. (Think the difference between RG3 and Andrew Luck)
I expect him to take the same path as Manuel.
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so why can't defenses stop this?
 
Arehel said:
Mentioned it in another thread.
Jimbo designs plays for one read. That one player is open by play design and thus makes it look easy, especially in a pro-system.
This why Ponder and Ej Manuel are hot garbage in the NFL and were exceptional in NCAA. No full field awareness. Last year he had studs receivers (as shown by Kalvin Benjamin looking good for Carolina too) so they made him look real good too.
Name me one QB in the NFL that Jimbo coached that is good? LSU? Nope!
Like another poster said, pretty slow delivery, still has a bit of a baseball wind up. Not particularly great pocket presence, he's just athletic, rather then aware of the pocket. (Think the difference between RG3 and Andrew Luck)
I expect him to take the same path as Manuel.
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JaMarcus Russell. Oh, wait a minute. Nevermind.
 
cummon sense said:
Arehel said:
Mentioned it in another thread.
Jimbo designs plays for one read. That one player is open by play design and thus makes it look easy, especially in a pro-system.
This why Ponder and Ej Manuel are hot garbage in the NFL and were exceptional in NCAA. No full field awareness. Last year he had studs receivers (as shown by Kalvin Benjamin looking good for Carolina too) so they made him look real good too.
Name me one QB in the NFL that Jimbo coached that is good? LSU? Nope!
Like another poster said, pretty slow delivery, still has a bit of a baseball wind up. Not particularly great pocket presence, he's just athletic, rather then aware of the pocket. (Think the difference between RG3 and Andrew Luck)
I expect him to take the same path as Manuel.
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so why can't defenses stop this?
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See what happens if Greene ever gets hurt. Winston will look as lost as Weineke did against Oklahoma when Minnis couldn't play. BTW, Greene bailed Maquire out against Clemson.
 
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cummon sense said:
Arehel said:
Mentioned it in another thread.
Jimbo designs plays for one read. That one player is open by play design and thus makes it look easy, especially in a pro-system.
This why Ponder and Ej Manuel are hot garbage in the NFL and were exceptional in NCAA. No full field awareness. Last year he had studs receivers (as shown by Kalvin Benjamin looking good for Carolina too) so they made him look real good too.
Name me one QB in the NFL that Jimbo coached that is good? LSU? Nope!
Like another poster said, pretty slow delivery, still has a bit of a baseball wind up. Not particularly great pocket presence, he's just athletic, rather then aware of the pocket. (Think the difference between RG3 and Andrew Luck)
I expect him to take the same path as Manuel.
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so why can't defenses stop this?
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Almost all defenses stop it for awhile at least.

Auburn was running away and hiding with the National Championship
Notre Dame defense was very effective in Tallahassee
Louisville was outstanding in the first half and for the majority of the game (bad bounces and a dumb play by Holliman cost them)
NC State was owning in the 1st half

It's the adjustments. Jimbo makes adjustments to the game plan at halftime and voila, problem solved. Most staffs don't readjust.
 
The good:
Talented, very athletic, great field vision, good (on the field) instincts, concentration (again, on the field) zones in when challenged (but can just as easily be the kid on the Pop Warner team staring at the cheerleaders or watching birds). Very competitive, apparently relatively smart (but who can be sure at FSU). A proven entity at this level.

The Bad:
Very immature, no moral compass, feels entitled, no or little empathy, lacks communication skills, possibly psychopathic or at least a sociopath that cannot read or understand other people. Forces some plays believing in his own infallibility.

Future?
Vince Young or Michael Vick or some combination thereof - maybe even a little of Joe Namath. Or baseball. Perhaps more skilled than Kaaya but will not go as far IMO.
 
jerzeycane said:
cummon sense said:
Arehel said:
Mentioned it in another thread.
Jimbo designs plays for one read. That one player is open by play design and thus makes it look easy, especially in a pro-system.
This why Ponder and Ej Manuel are hot garbage in the NFL and were exceptional in NCAA. No full field awareness. Last year he had studs receivers (as shown by Kalvin Benjamin looking good for Carolina too) so they made him look real good too.
Name me one QB in the NFL that Jimbo coached that is good? LSU? Nope!
Like another poster said, pretty slow delivery, still has a bit of a baseball wind up. Not particularly great pocket presence, he's just athletic, rather then aware of the pocket. (Think the difference between RG3 and Andrew Luck)
I expect him to take the same path as Manuel.
Click to expand...

so why can't defenses stop this?
Click to expand...

Almost all defenses stop it for awhile at least.

Auburn was running away and hiding with the National Championship
Notre Dame defense was very effective in Tallahassee
Louisville was outstanding in the first half and for the majority of the game (bad bounces and a dumb play by Holliman cost them)
NC State was owning in the 1st half

It's the adjustments. Jimbo makes adjustments to the game plan at halftime and voila, problem solved. Most staffs don't readjust.
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Can't argue with adjustments - my biggest worry for this Saturday is the brilliant adjustments our corches have made so far this year. Also given the mental material Jimbo has to deal with - he may be a master of KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid. May be that applies to dealing with Crab Legs.
 
Good enough to win the heisman as a redshirt freshmen and be a top 5 pick next season.

And that's with all the off field stuff so imagine.
 
Marcelo2988 said:
Good enough to win the heisman as a redshirt freshmen and be a top 5 pick next season.

And that's with all the off field stuff so imagine.
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The kind of logic that causes NFL GM's their livelihoods

Which then causes their wives to cheat on them with someone else

Which then leads to divorce

Which then leads to children hating their father

Which then leads to a daughter who changes her name to Treasure

Don't be the guy whose daughter changes her name to Treasure
 
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cummon sense said:
Arehel said:
Mentioned it in another thread.
Jimbo designs plays for one read. That one player is open by play design and thus makes it look easy, especially in a pro-system.
This why Ponder and Ej Manuel are hot garbage in the NFL and were exceptional in NCAA. No full field awareness. Last year he had studs receivers (as shown by Kalvin Benjamin looking good for Carolina too) so they made him look real good too.
Name me one QB in the NFL that Jimbo coached that is good? LSU? Nope!
Like another poster said, pretty slow delivery, still has a bit of a baseball wind up. Not particularly great pocket presence, he's just athletic, rather then aware of the pocket. (Think the difference between RG3 and Andrew Luck)
I expect him to take the same path as Manuel.
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so why can't defenses stop this?
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Well, as a rule, college defenses mostly suck.

Even a really good college defense...like Michigan State...can get worked by a good offensive gameplan. See Oregon and Ohio State.
 
eddostarr said:
Ben roethlisberger type , good talent and an incredible competitor
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Agreed. I see him as a Big Ben clone (on and off the field). The best thing that could happen to him would be to slip in the draft to a good, solid organization like Pittsburgh.
 
JimmyJohnsonsHair said:
He got away with some really bad decisions against Louisville.
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Like what?

Fumbling the ball into the endzone for a TD?

Throwing an interception after the half and them fumbling right back to FSU?

Throwing a duck into triple coverage and 2 Loserville players basically defend each other and the ball slips past the thrid for a 60+ yard TD? According to the experts, that was a great throw.
 
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