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3rd-43 said:
I think there’s something misaligned with FSU’s positive turnaround so quickly, there has to be a recession to the mean as the probability of continued success at this level after a 2-10 season is beyond abnormal.

Wake up call coming
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Even if they beat Virginia we’ll see if their win versus Bama was lucky due to Bama not taking them seriously because they were *** last year or they are a legit team.
 
90scane said:
Don’t you mean every war?
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Canesq said:
That game will do numbers lol. Looking forward to the film breakdown of them since I haven’t watched their games. May watch the condensed Bama game.

Let’s hope it doesn’t rain.
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Planning on that condensed game as well.
 
stormsurge13 said:
Set the edge, limit explosives and take care of the football and we’ll be fine
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You control Wing T concepts and their variants through the A gaps. Blay, Moten, Scott, and whatever our DC has cooked up to send flying into the A gaps to nullify the ‘belly’ run calls. From there, yes, like any good run defense, it needs a set edge. But, this will all revolve around how we control the interior OL.
 
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rsa coral gables said:
its a rivalry game. years past we've had a significanlty better line on O or D and we have not dominated.
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I agree that the rivalry aspect (and it being *at* a likely undefeated, top 5-10 FSU team) should give us pause.

But I really think that the game results the past decade have come down to line matchups (heroics by Dalvin Cook in 2015 & 2016 are the exceptions here).

The 2022 team was a mess. I don't think we had the advantage up front, never mind a significant one.

The 2023 UM OL had an advantage over their DL- even with two first-rounders in Verse and Fiske. Which is why Emory Williams was able to move the ball on a team that ended up 13-1.

Last year the mismatch was bigger and it showed. They never had a chance in that game- it was an old-fashioned ***-kicking.

This year I think the advantage will be strongly to UM. FSU has racked up gaudy amounts of points this year with a combination of cheeky, but slow-developing runs and deep balls. Yes, this offense can catch teams napping- which is one of the many reasons why I'm so glad Hetherman is the DC now.

Also- Gus offenses put their QBs into a meat grinder. It will be on the DL to win up front and allow the killers in the back seven (Toure, Thomas, etc.) to take free hits on Tommy. The kid has heart, and we may well see it burst out of his ribcage on 10/4.
 
Fart Keyhole said:
I agree that the rivalry aspect (and it being *at* a likely undefeated, top 5-10 FSU team) should give us pause.

But I really think that the game results the past decade have come down to line matchups (heroics by Dalvin Cook in 2015 & 2016 are the exceptions here).

The 2022 team was a mess. I don't think we had the advantage up front, never mind a significant one.

The 2023 UM OL had an advantage over their DL- even with two first-rounders in Verse and Fiske. Which is why Emory Williams was able to move the ball on a team that ended up 13-1.

Last year the mismatch was bigger and it showed. They never had a chance in that game- it was an old-fashioned ***-kicking.

This year I think the advantage will be strongly to UM. FSU has racked up gaudy amounts of points this year with a combination of cheeky, but slow-developing runs and deep balls. Yes, this offense can catch teams napping- which is one of the many reasons why I'm so glad Hetherman is the DC now.

Also- Gus offenses put their QBs into a meat grinder. It will be on the DL to win up front and allow the killers in the back seven (Toure, Thomas, etc.) to take free hits on Tommy. The kid has heart, and we may well see it burst out of his ribcage on 10/4.
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I hope we find it in the endzone after a safety beating on the ground
 
rsa coral gables said:
its a rivalry game. years past we've had a significanlty better line on O or D and we have not dominated.
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I’m not talking about significant better I’m talking about dominate. You can’t not point to a single Miami team since the 02 team that had a top 3 offensive and defensive line in the same season. Florida was a rivalry game and Miami had there way with them in the trenches. Will FSU put up a fight, yes it’s a rivalry game, but they do not matchup well against Miami at all.

FSU is not more talented than Florida or Notre Dame in the trenches.

Frankly Miami is a bad matchup for every team on the schedule.
 
mossmadness said:
I think a methodical, “Mario” game might be the best strategy in this game.

Less plays run in the game will limit the amount of explosives in the game.

I think a game with a lot of plays run probably favors the FSU offense from what I’ve seen so far this year.
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Scoring fast and forcing them to abandon the run imo is the better idea
 
skyman said:
We have no dline rotation at moment, they will tempo and try to run 100 plays and see if Bain and Mesidor can play 2 game snaps in one night.. GREAT strategy actually, can they stay on field to execute?
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Mario will run it to keep the defense fresh. Also the risk for Fsu if they go 3 and out their defense will be gassed. It’s going to be an interesting chest match
 
BeastMode said:
Mario will run it to keep the defense fresh. Also the risk for Fsu if they go 3 and out their defense will be gassed. It’s going to be an interesting chest match
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We should remember the Rhett offense big numbers against normal teams then struggle against the big boys. We will dominate up front and should blow them out. We will gash their defense because of them constantly going three and out on offense.
 
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Fart Keyhole said:
I agree that the rivalry aspect (and it being *at* a likely undefeated, top 5-10 FSU team) should give us pause.

But I really think that the game results the past decade have come down to line matchups (heroics by Dalvin Cook in 2015 & 2016 are the exceptions here).

The 2022 team was a mess. I don't think we had the advantage up front, never mind a significant one.

The 2023 UM OL had an advantage over their DL- even with two first-rounders in Verse and Fiske. Which is why Emory Williams was able to move the ball on a team that ended up 13-1.

Last year the mismatch was bigger and it showed. They never had a chance in that game- it was an old-fashioned ***-kicking.

This year I think the advantage will be strongly to UM. FSU has racked up gaudy amounts of points this year with a combination of cheeky, but slow-developing runs and deep balls. Yes, this offense can catch teams napping- which is one of the many reasons why I'm so glad Hetherman is the DC now.

Also- Gus offenses put their QBs into a meat grinder. It will be on the DL to win up front and allow the killers in the back seven (Toure, Thomas, etc.) to take free hits on Tommy. The kid has heart, and we may well see it burst out of his ribcage on 10/4.
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Had the same thoughts rewatching the Bama game thought he was going to get killed. With the way we are swarming rn I think he will run more tentative.
 
Bpayne32 said:
We should remember the Rhett offense big numbers against normal teams then struggle against the big boys. We will dominate up front and should blow them out. We will gash their defense because of them constantly going three and out on offense.
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I’ll be curious to see what that do agaisnt Virginia.

Tommy got his ankle rolled up on. Hopefully he takes some more big hits in this game but I don’t think Virginia is a fizical team
 
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