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So he’s setting up plays by giving up a down every series….…..**** I always thought the idea was to gain yards on first down….I stand corrected…..End quote
So he’s setting up plays by giving up a down every series….…..**** I always thought the idea was to gain yards on first down….I stand corrected…..End quote
Not every play is designed or called to score..nor are they to pick up 20..yes ALL OCs will call base plays in order to setup huge gains later in the game..EX: inside zone used to setup RPOS ect..NO it’s not always going to work..the defenses job is to sniff it out and get stops..thank you for making my pointSo he’s setting up plays by giving up a down every series….…..**** I always thought the idea was to gain yards on first down….I stand corrected…..
We’d luv for u to share your madden playbook bro..u seem like a wishbone/air raid hybrid type of guyHis plays are kind of predictable and boring to be honest.. I prefer an actual balanced spread offense that uses the WRs in space and the power run game like Bama’s but I’m going to reserve final judgment until I see what having better WRs and hopefully oline do for this offense this season.
We’d luv for u to share your madden playbook bro..u seem like a wishbone/air raid hybrid type of guy
The oline just needs to improve bruh.Lol Too many throw away plays to set up the one big play. It gets us in wholes that we can’t get out of if the other team is scoring on us. And it’s usually just one primary target not multiple options at a time that is running a route for a big play which makes it predictable.
@Stevo365, what do you think?Someone cue that Clemson game and look at his play calling in critical situations.
Im pretty sure he would've if he had a whole off season to install those plays, covid did us no justice last year.
This was literally the topic in the last thread by OP. There were multiple third down plays that would have been easy conversions including some that would have went for big yardage had the execution been there. Lashlee likes to send his slot/inside guy deep to clear the middle for an outside receiver on a crossing pattern. Usually on third and medium type situations. They ran it against Clemson a few times but either King missed his man or the offensive line whiffed a block and they weren’t able to convert plays that would have picked up good chunks of yardage. The play caller can only call the play. If it’s designed to leave a wide open gap in the middle and there’s a receiver running through that wide open gap, that’s all you do as a coach. It’s up to the personnel to execute. The bigger problem against Clemson was our receivers inability to beat the jam, giving them a numbers mismatch on most plays because they could keep their SS near the line of scrimmage. There’s a reason they got a transfer receiver immediately following the seasonSomeone cue that Clemson game and look at his play calling in critical situations.
Guess you’ve never played chess… your first turn/move you plan on winning alreadySo he’s setting up plays by giving up a down every series….…..**** I always thought the idea was to gain yards on first down….I stand corrected…..
It’s not that the plays are designed throw away plays. Like i said earlier, ideally you’d like to get good positive yards on those inside zones and QB powers. The thing is, you have to understand your personnel and play the hand you’re dealt. They had a very subpar run blocking offensive line. There’s no special running play that’s going to make that unit consistent. Especially against the better defensive fronts like Clemson or Pitt. So you have two choices: 1) you can abandon the run and throw the ball 60 times. Bad idea when your quarterback’s best weapon is his legs, the offensive line is only slightly better at pass blocking than run blocking and Pope and Wiggins are your receivers. You’re just making your offense easier to defend and probably getting your quarterback killed. Or 2) you accept the fact that you’re going to have running plays that don’t gain yardage. But you’re at least able to keep the defense honest and set up plays that have the opportunity to go for huge gains. With an inconsistent line, getting 40+ yard touchdowns (which we had a ton of) matters a lot. We were not going to be able to put together 12 play drives and just march down the field against better teams. It’s just a sad fact that we didn’t have a lot of talent on offense. Specifically on the line and at WR. I mean besides King and Jordan was there any other player a contender would take from our offense? Nobody from our team would have been a starter for Clemson besides Brevin. Still, despite all that and the fact we didn’t have an FCS team to pad stats against, we had our highest scoring offense since friggin’ 2002.Lol Too many throw away plays to set up the one big play. It gets us in wholes that we can’t get out of if the other team is scoring on us. And it’s usually just one primary target not multiple options at a time that is running a route for a big play which makes it predictable.
Lashlee dialed up 2 TD playcalls that King underthrew and if you see my crossing route review two of those plays are 3rd down must haves in the clemson game that lashlee dialed up perfectly king just missed@Stevo365, what do you think?
This was literally the topic in the last thread by OP. There were multiple third down plays that would have been easy conversions including some that would have went for big yardage had the execution been there. Lashlee likes to send his slot/inside guy deep to clear the middle for an outside receiver on a crossing pattern. Usually on third and medium type situations. They ran it against Clemson a few times but either King missed his man or the offensive line whiffed a block and they weren’t able to convert plays that would have picked up good chunks of yardage. The play caller can only call the play. If it’s designed to leave a wide open gap in the middle and there’s a receiver running through that wide open gap, that’s all you do as a coach. It’s up to the personnel to execute. The bigger problem against Clemson was our receivers inability to beat the jam, giving them a numbers mismatch on most plays because they could keep their SS near the line of scrimmage. There’s a reason they got a transfer receiver immediately following the season
Lashlee brought us from the bottom 100 to to 33rd in the nation in total offense.I hate that Lashlee continues to call the same plays over and over even though they end up being a waste of a down.
I can’t count how times we tried that running play up the middle only to get stuffed time and time again which left us starting most series 2nd and 10 but every new series he ran it again and got stuffed again.
im no offensive savant by any means but I do know if you run the same play 10 times a game and it gets stuffed 10 times a game common sense should tell you to run a different play.
if this is part of setting up other plays then OK and I don’t understand what he’s trying to do but playing every series with 2 downs sure makes things hard on the offense.
Year | Total Offense |
2018 | 105 |
2019 | 98 |
2020 | 33 |
While also handicapped with pope and wigginsLashlee brought us from the bottom 100 to to 33rd in the nation in total offense.
He did this during a Covid shortened spring in his first year of install with limited access to players.
How anyone looks at this and comes to the conclusion he isn't a phenomenal coordinator makes me concerned for their mental capacity.
Year Total Offense 2018 105 2019 98 2020 33