How do you handle the current Qb situation?

[Prizzle]

Reading Between the lines it’s clear that Diaz and Enos believe Jarren is the more gifted quarterback with a higher ceiling. But with our offense of line we simply cannot run the plays that would allow him to be the most successful. N’kosi’s ability to scramble and avoid the pressure is clearly what gives us the best chance to win now. But how can you manage your personnel (keeping them from transferring) if your most talented QB is not the QB with the best of succeeding with the current team???

Do you change Your offense and offense of philosophy to help jerren? Or do you keep The offense as is installed with a more elusive N’kosi? Knowing your decision will likely lead to the other qb transferring?

 

[954canelife]

I want a quarterback that will take chances and not turn it over, kosi did that Friday.... I don't want 30 completions that are going to mean nothing.

Ps. Our offensive coordinator did a tight end jet sweep to the short side of the redone 4 yards (3.66 m) out. Red zone is not our thing lol, we have HUGE problems

 

[Memnon]

Jarren isn't a more gifted passer than Kosi, he's more accurate, there's a difference.

Kosi has the best arm talent on the team, his problem is his accuracy is inconsistent a lot.

How you handle the QB situation is simple, you go with Perry until he gives you no choice but to pull him while allowing Jarren to get healthy.

Perry is the more experienced QB & makes more daring throws under duress while also have better escape-ability. Given how awful our OL is Perry better suits the Offense for right now because he doesn't hold onto the football as long as Jarren normally does & he can evade pressure more often.

The team/Offense has rallied around Perry, as soon as he came into the game vs Va Tech the offense sparked and you could tell the skill guys were happy to be getting the ball from him.

Stick with the hot hand, for right now he should be the guy. Once Jarren is 100% healthy & if Perry sh*ts the bed throwing multiple INT's, then you put Jarren back in. But if you arbitrarily start Jarren & we struggle it'll be a colossally stupid decision.

 

[prg3Kane]

Perry should start with Martell as the backup. Let Williams get healthy and reassess where you're at at least after GT. If Perry is still winning games, you keep starting him. If he struggles, start Williams.

This is an x-factor but I think the entire team responds better with #5 back there.

 

[ben]

Unleash the WildProctor offense

 

[hurricane94]

Jarren isn't a more gifted passer than Kosi, he's more accurate, there's a difference.

Kosi has the best arm talent on the team, his problem is his accuracy is inconsistent a lot.

How you handle the QB situation is simple, you go with Perry until he gives you no choice but to pull him while allowing Jarren to get healthy.

Perry is the more experienced QB & makes more daring throws under duress while also have better escape-ability. Given how awful our OL is Perry better suits the Offense for right now because he doesn't hold onto the football as long as Jarren normally does & he can evade pressure more often.

The team/Offense has rallied around Perry, as soon as he came into the game vs Va Tech the offense sparked and you could tell the skill guys were happy to be getting the ball from him.

Stick with the hot hand, for right now he should be the guy. Once Jarren is 100% healthy & if Perry sh*ts the bed throwing multiple INT's, then you put Jarren back in. But if you arbitrarily start Jarren & we struggle it'll be a colossally stupid decision.

So what your saying is that we are going to start Jarren next game.

 

[brock]

Is Perry really all that good at avoiding pressure? He’s had 9 sacks in the last 2 games which is about the same sack rate Jarren has had in 4 games at 4.5 per game. He’s better than Jarren in that aspect but we are still getting a ton of sacks regardless. Not that much of a difference really. Enos needs to quit with the bunch formations and have the qbs operate from the shotgun or move scaife to left tackle because Zion can’t block a soul at times which is getting the qbs killed. And ultimately just get the ball out faster, that will stop a lot of sacks from happening

 

[canesarchitect]

Right now I stick with Perry. I'm tired of the "more talented", " higher ceiling" talk.

 

[brock]

Jarren isn't a more gifted passer than Kosi, he's more accurate, there's a difference.

Kosi has the best arm talent on the team, his problem is his accuracy is inconsistent a lot.

How you handle the QB situation is simple, you go with Perry until he gives you no choice but to pull him while allowing Jarren to get healthy.

Perry is the more experienced QB & makes more daring throws under duress while also have better escape-ability. Given how awful our OL is Perry better suits the Offense for right now because he doesn't hold onto the football as long as Jarren normally does & he can evade pressure more often.

The team/Offense has rallied around Perry, as soon as he came into the game vs Va Tech the offense sparked and you could tell the skill guys were happy to be getting the ball from him.

Stick with the hot hand, for right now he should be the guy. Once Jarren is 100% healthy & if Perry sh*ts the bed throwing multiple INT's, then you put Jarren back in. But if you arbitrarily start Jarren & we struggle it'll be a colossally stupid decision.

I saw the spark in the Offense when we were down in va tech game and had to throw majority of the time to get back in it but where was that vs uva when we had to run a normal conventional offense and not just throwing on 90 % of the plays? After the first drive and up until the final 2 drives we ran 23 plays where we only picked up 35 total yards and 4 out of 6 drives in the time frame we went 3 and out. Bronco mendenhall said he had the offense figured out after the first drive. Vs uva we didn’t complete a single pass over the middle of the field in terms of slants or even anything and we had 1 ball completed that traveled at least 10 yards or more the entire game and that was to kj on the first drive. If kosi is going to be the qb that can’t happen because let’s be real it’s some hypocrisy going on because people said Jarren was “dinking and dunking” his way in his first 4 starts but when kosi did it vs uva not many said a thing about it. Seems unfair but that’s just me.

It was great to see how they rallied around Perry vs va tech But this team also did that with Jarren too when adversity was faced vs uf and also after they got down 17-3 vs unc early and fought their way back in those games. Maybe that’s just who this team is.

 

[kryptonite]

Reading Between the lines it’s clear that Diaz and Enos believe Jarren is the more gifted quarterback with a higher ceiling. But with our offense of line we simply cannot run the plays that would allow him to be the most successful. N’kosi’s ability to scramble and avoid the pressure is clearly what gives us the best chance to win now. But how can you manage your personnel (keeping them from transferring) if your most talented QB is not the QB with the best of succeeding with the current team???

Do you change Your offense and offense of philosophy to help jerren? Or do you keep The offense as is installed with a more elusive N’kosi? Knowing your decision will likely lead to the other qb transferring?

It's pretty fcking simple. You go with whatever works. Right now Perry seems like less of a disaster, let him start.

I think Jerren is the better QB too, but if Perry can do a better job in actual games with the OL we've actually got then he's our guy for now.

 

[tdjones34]

Perry isnt losing the job , he is the guy now

 

[mdpcane]

THUNDERDOME

 

[FrancisSawyer]

Jarren isn't a more gifted passer than Kosi, he's more accurate, there's a difference.

Kosi has the best arm talent on the team, his problem is his accuracy is inconsistent a lot.

How you handle the QB situation is simple, you go with Perry until he gives you no choice but to pull him while allowing Jarren to get healthy.

Perry is the more experienced QB & makes more daring throws under duress while also have better escape-ability. Given how awful our OL is Perry better suits the Offense for right now because he doesn't hold onto the football as long as Jarren normally does & he can evade pressure more often.

The team/Offense has rallied around Perry, as soon as he came into the game vs Va Tech the offense sparked and you could tell the skill guys were happy to be getting the ball from him.

Stick with the hot hand, for right now he should be the guy. Once Jarren is 100% healthy & if Perry sh*ts the bed throwing multiple INT's, then you put Jarren back in. But if you arbitrarily start Jarren & we struggle it'll be a colossally stupid decision.

"But if you arbitrarily start Jarren & we struggle it'll be a colossally stupid decision."

Which is exactly what Diaz plans on doing. SMH FML

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

Only counting non-garbage time games (i.e. Savannah State blowouts) where Perry got the majority of the snaps:

2018
Wins
FIU
FSU (epic comeback)
GT
VT
Losses
UVA (pulled in 1st quarter after 2 picks)

2019
Wins
UVA
Losses
VT (rallied team from 28 point deficit with 4 TDs)

That's 5-2 overall, and 1 of those losses he gave Miami the lead after the team was down 28.

Perry has all the ingredients to be an extremely successful QB. What he was missing last year was maturity. Richt didn't think he could trust him (for good reason). I know JW earned the starting gig, but it looks like Perry is a gamer. All I care about is the Win column. I am a big fan of JW's potential, but I don't see him getting better unless the OL improves, which is unlikely. I think Miami has to roll with Perry now.

 

[gruntking]

Question is would Perry have gotten us a win over UF, UNC and VT(started). With the consensus here being that he’s a better Qb with our sucky OL, which I totally agree... I believe we very much could have. The ten sacks with UF would most likely have dropped in numbers and could have gotten us points. If Perry continues to produce drives and gets us wins you can’t make a change, IMO.

 

[FrancisSawyer]

Only counting non-garbage time games (i.e. Savannah State blowouts) where Perry got the majority of the snaps:

2018

Wins
FIU
FSU (epic comeback)
GT
VT

Losses
UVA (pulled in 1st quarter after 2 picks)

2019
Wins
UVA

Losses
VT (rallied team from 28 point deficit with 4 TDs)

That's 5-2 overall, and 1 of those losses he gave Miami the lead after the team was down 28.

Perry has all the ingredients to be an extremely successful QB. What he was missing last year was maturity. Richt didn't think he could trust him (for good reason). I know JW earned the starting gig, but it looks like Perry is a gamer. All I care about is the Win column. I am a big fan of JW's potential, but I don't see him getting better unless the OL improves, which is unlikely. I think Miami has to roll with Perry now.

Very well stated. You summed up the situation quite nicely.

 

[caneworld]

Bottomline, we cannot make decisions based on fear of transfers... this team is barely winning games. Roll the dice and play whoever gives you a better chance of a W.
If one of the qbs transfer, so be it.

 

[mdpcane]

"But if you arbitrarily start Jarren & we struggle it'll be a colossally stupid decision."

Which is exactly what Diaz plans on doing. SMH FML

if Diaz goes to a "2 QB" solution .... that wouldnt surprise a lot of people

 

[Memnon]

I saw the spark in the Offense when we were down in va tech game and had to throw majority of the time to get back in it but where was that vs uva when we had to run a normal conventional offense and not just throwing on 90 % of the plays? After the first drive and up until the final 2 drives we ran 23 plays where we only picked up 35 total yards and 4 out of 6 drives in the time frame we went 3 and out. Bronco mendenhall said he had the offense figured out after the first drive. Vs uva we didn’t complete a single pass over the middle of the field in terms of slants or even anything and we had 1 ball completed that traveled at least 10 yards or more the entire game and that was to kj on the first drive. If kosi is going to be the qb that can’t happen because let’s be real it’s some hypocrisy going on because people said Jarren was “dinking and dunking” his way in his first 4 starts but when kosi did it vs uva not many said a thing about it. Seems unfair but that’s just me.

It was great to see how they rallied around Perry vs va tech But this team also did that with Jarren too when adversity was faced vs uf and also after they got down 17-3 vs unc early and fought their way back in those games. Maybe that’s just who this team is.

You're too much of a Jarren fan to think straight, you're jaded by your dislike of Perry.

There's a clear cut difference in how the Offense operates with Perry at the helm as opposed to Jarren, you're placing bad play calling at the fault of the QB when it's Enos & the OL who's responsible for the dry spells offensively.

Watch the games. Perry delivers the ball decisively & make plays when the pocket break down under heavy pressure, he can make more higher degree of difficulty throws under pressure than Jarren can. Jarren simply couldn't pull the trigger on that final drive vs UF he was gun shy & wouldn't throw the ball, that wouldn't have happened with Perry, win, lose or draw he's going to sling it. And you're making a false equivalency with the "dink & dunk" comparison because we've seen Perrry plenty of times throw the ball all over the field on Deep passes, just because he didn't as much vs UVA as a result of the type of game Enos called doesn't mean he's incapable of doing it, we haven't seen it yet from Jarren on the other hand except vs UNC on one or 2 passes.

I get it he's a Georgia boy & you're all in with the home turf, but for RIGHT NOW Perry should be the QB until proven otherwise. If Perry has a bad game vs GTech then Jarren no question should start vs Pitt.

You always stick with the hot hand until it cools off.

 

[MIA42178]

Jarren has a ****ed up shoulder. There’s no chance he’s 100% before we get to FIU.

It’s a no brainer.

Play NKosi. Open competition before FIU if we lose a game before that.