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WKU '09 - '12

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Big difference in what the program looks like before he gets there then after he gets his players there. After his players graduate the programs fall off again.

Question: who's team won the '01 national title Butchs' or Cokers'?
Two things. One you act like whistle walked into a dumpster fire when in reality he walked into top 5 classes for the past 5 years. He went two years without taking a qb, that is bad management.

Two you calling everyone a follower and you are original for posting this. Go post it on the fsu board and everyone will agree with you. Does this make them all original thinkers as well?
 
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Enos is not a better OC than Briles. Sorry u can't look past your Miami bias to see that. Most everyone knows that and are scared to say it. That's a prime example of a follower. I'm just one of the few who will say it out loud.
 
Two things. One you act like whistle walked into a dumpster fire when in reality he walked into top 5 classes for the past 5 years. He went two years without taking a qb, that is bad management.

Two you calling everyone a follower and you are original for posting this. Go post it on the fsu board and everyone will agree with you. Does this make them all original thinkers as well?

1. What did Jimbo do his last year at FSU with those top 5 classes? U can have talent all day but if the culture isn't right you're not going to win.

2. Show me where I said I was original for posting this. I'll wait...

3. The ppl who know Briles is a better OC than Enos but won't admit it bc they're scared to get downvoted and bc Briles was hired by FSU are indeed followers.

Have a good day.
 
Lol
Will Taggart career winning %= .477
FSU 2018 %= .417

FSU just matched who their coach is

I'm not sure where the idea that Willie is a great coach came from in the first place. I live in the Tampa Bay area and went to USF for grad school, so I follow USF football. When Taggart was here, the fans were ready to run him out of town, he was doing so poorly. Then he had one good year (thanks to Flowers and a few other players having great seasons) and somehow he became a hot commodity and skipped off to Oregon. Then, at Oregon, he was mediocre...and somehow parlayed that into yet another high profile job. How his name became included among the top, or even up-and-coming coaches really mystifies me.
 
(Law 15 in the 48 Laws of Power: Crush Your Enemy Totally)

The best OC hire in the P5 Florida programs was FSU, not Miami. Briles is one of the best, if not the best, OC's in CFB.

While I think Enos is a good hire, there will be a lot of fans thinking he is great because of how abysmal our offense looked under Richt, and that's okay because all we need is a good offense to compliment our great defense to make an elite team. Enos may be a top 15 OC but he is not top 3 like a Briles.

My point is, is that FSU is a sleeping giant just like Miami. Both teams are loaded with talent and have potential through the roof. I see a lot of ppl underestimating FSU and that's the worst thing u can do, especially underestimating a rival. U must crush your enemy totally. Never let up off their necks.

Go Canes 🙌🏼
FSU hired Lil Briles, not his father. Not saying he’s not gonna be a good OC, but I think JR’s name gets some respect because of who his dad is.

Also... when u talk about the top position coaches available, being involved in a rape scandal has to knock someone down a few notches.
 
I'm not sure where the idea that Willie is a great coach came from in the first place. I live in the Tampa Bay area and went to USF for grad school, so I follow USF football. When Taggart was here, the fans were ready to run him out of town, he was doing so poorly. Then he had one good year (thanks to Flowers and a few other players having great seasons) and somehow he became a hot commodity and skipped off to Oregon. Then, at Oregon, he was mediocre...and somehow parlayed that into yet another high profile job. How his name became included among the top, or even up-and-coming coaches really mystifies me.

Who recruited Flowers and those few other players who had great seasons to come play at USF?
 
And if they indeed land Alex hornibrook that’s another terrible scheme fit. They needed a qb like tate martell in that system but they obviously don’t have the appeal Miami has. As you said they will be better on offense, but their personnel imo isn’t as good as it was in the past, cam Akers is STILL *** and the defense will still be trash with no playmakers on the edge and a steep drop off without Brian burns

I didn't even think they'd be interested in Hornibrook, but I guess they need warm bodies at this point. Yes, he'd be another terrible scheme fit and he only has 1 year left...Blackman was already about to jet, I don't think them bringing in Hornibrook would sit well with him. I don't know, but I doubt that happens.

Akers is also most certainly NOT ***. Come on. You're smarter than that, there's no reason to blow smoke on this board...we're all Canes and we'll all say ***** FSU but you can call a spade a spade. The kid is really good, he just had ZERO help last year. As a matter of fact, he's one of my biggest bounce back candidates this year because this is the exact situation you hire a guy like Briles for...to adapt your scheme to match your talent. Akers had BY FAR the highest rate of being hit behind the LOS of any RB in the country last year. It wasn't even close. Sure, a guy like Barry Sanders could make something out of nothing, but 99.99% of backs need at least a hint of a crease. Akers was getting hit in the backfield on literally every run last year. Watch what Briles will do with him this year. He will have the ball a lot more in space and will be much more productive. The problem is, I still don't think they'll be able to be a dominating running team, and there's no depth at RB. Akers, Laborn, and Anthony Grant are the only scholarship backs on the roster, and Laborn is coming off a serious knee injury.

Again, they'll be better because they literally can't be worse, plus Blackman is better than Frenchie and Briles is WAY better than Taggart/Bell....but they still have zero safety net. An injury to Blackman or Akers, or to any of their OL (****erson, looking at you), and they're in huge trouble again.
 
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I didn't even think they'd be interested in Hornibrook, but I guess they need warm bodies at this point. Yes, he'd be another terrible scheme fit and he only has 1 year left...Blackman was already about to jet, I don't think them bringing in Hornibrook would sit well with him. I don't know, but I doubt that happens.

Akers is also most certainly NOT ***. Come on. You're smarter than that, there's no reason to blow smoke on this board...we're all Canes and we'll all say ***** FSU but you can call a spade a spade. The kid is really good, he just had ZERO help last year. As a matter of fact, he's one of my biggest bounce back candidates this year because this is the exact situation you hire a guy like Briles for...to adapt your scheme to match your talent. Akers had BY FAR the highest rate of being hit behind the LOS of any RB in the country last year. It wasn't even close. Sure, a guy like Barry Sanders could make something out of nothing, but 99.99% of backs need at least a hint of a crease. Akers was getting hit in the backfield on literally every run last year. Watch what Briles will do with him this year. He will have the ball a lot more in space and will be much more productive. The problem is, I still don't think they'll be able to be a dominating running team, and there's no depth at RB. Akers, Laborn, and Anthony Grant are the only scholarship backs on the roster, and Laborn is coming off a serious knee injury.

Again, they'll be better because they literally can't be worse, plus Blackman is better than Frenchie and Briles is WAY better than Taggart/Bell....but they still have zero safety net. An injury to Blackman or Akers, or to any of their OL (****erson, looking at you), and they're in huge trouble again.
I think laborn will be better personally than Akers. I’ve never liked Akers and being saying it. I’ve stood on the hill saying homer was better than Akers for the last year or so too. I dont See the explosiveness for an “elite” back and certainly his production isn’t good. He’s overhyped imo. Yes he has a shtty line but he’s not the only one or first rb to have a ****** oline and still be productive. They had a better qb than us last year in all aspects and he still was shtty
Akers
2017 5.3 ypc 1025 yards 7 tds
2018 4.4 ypc 706 yards 6 tds

Homer
2017 5.9 ypc 966 yards 8 tds
2018 6.0 ypc 985 yards 4 tds
 
FSU hired Lil Briles, not his father. Not saying he’s not gonna be a good OC, but I think JR’s name gets some respect because of who his dad is.

Also... when u talk about the top position coaches available, being involved in a rape scandal has to knock someone down a few notches.

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I do agree the rape scandals while at Baylor did take away some opportunities he would have gotten, but that doesn't take away from his skill as an OC.

Btw you're one of those I respect as a poster. You've always come with a genuine opinion.
 
1. What did Jimbo do his last year at FSU with those top 5 classes? U can have talent all day but if the culture isn't right you're not going to win.

2. Show me where I said I was original for posting this. I'll wait...

3. The ppl who know Briles is a better OC than Enos but won't admit it bc they're scared to get downvoted and bc Briles was hired by FSU are indeed followers.

Have a good day.

1. You were inside the locker room? You know the culture at FSU? So it was not coaching, it was "culture" got it. You seem to also forget Frenchie snapping his leg opening game, pretty sure that can throw a wrench into any HC plans.

2. You are correct, you never said "I am original" instead you insinuate what an independent thinker you are and how you aren't afraid to get downvoted, and call others out as being "yes" men.

3. Briles dad was the better OC, Jr. is a good coach, no one here would have complained if we hired him but to say he is top 3, based off what? The 14 points he put up against Army in Houston's bowl game, or the 70 points he was hanging on teams like Rice, and SMU?

Have a pleasant day, sir.

Edit: Please post the source of the diagrams you just posted to support your theory. I bet they are from a Nole site....
 
(Law 15 in the 48 Laws of Power: Crush Your Enemy Totally)

The best OC hire in the P5 Florida programs was FSU, not Miami. Briles is one of the best, if not the best, OC's in CFB.

While I think Enos is a good hire, there will be a lot of fans thinking he is great because of how abysmal our offense looked under Richt, and that's okay because all we need is a good offense to compliment our great defense to make an elite team. Enos may be a top 15 OC but he is not top 3 like a Briles.

My point is, is that FSU is a sleeping giant just like Miami. Both teams are loaded with talent and have potential through the roof. I see a lot of ppl underestimating FSU and that's the worst thing u can do, especially underestimating a rival. U must crush your enemy totally. Never let up off their necks.

Go Canes 🙌🏼
They have WiLLLLLLLLLLie as their coach who adds Ls everyday seemingly ans legit is a top 10 wirst coach in the country..... They'll have another sexual assault scandal before a 9 win season
 
The same ppl who credit Willie for FSU record last year are the same ones who credit Butch for our '01 natty. How ironic.

So did Texas A&M magically have their best season in 6 years because Kevin Sumlins teams finally came together? Or because they got a better coach? Get out of here with that nonsense.
 
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1. You were inside the locker room? You know the culture at FSU? So it was not coaching, it was "culture" got it. You seem to also forget Frenchie snapping his leg opening game, pretty sure that can throw a wrench into any HC plans.

2. You are correct, you never said "I am original" instead you insinuate what an independent thinker you are and how you aren't afraid to get downvoted, and call others out as being "yes" men.

3. Briles dad was the better OC, Jr. is a good coach, no one here would have complained if we hired him but to say he is top 3, based off what? The 14 points he put up against Army in Houston's bowl game, or the 70 points he was hanging on teams like Rice, and SMU?

Have a pleasant day, sir.

Edit: Please post the source of the diagrams you just posted to support your theory. I bet they are from a Nole site....

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Enough said.

Name 3 better OCs
 
(Law 15 in the 48 Laws of Power: Crush Your Enemy Totally)

The best OC hire in the P5 Florida programs was FSU, not Miami. Briles is one of the best, if not the best, OC's in CFB.

While I think Enos is a good hire, there will be a lot of fans thinking he is great because of how abysmal our offense looked under Richt, and that's okay because all we need is a good offense to compliment our great defense to make an elite team. Enos may be a top 15 OC but he is not top 3 like a Briles.

My point is, is that FSU is a sleeping giant just like Miami. Both teams are loaded with talent and have potential through the roof. I see a lot of ppl underestimating FSU and that's the worst thing u can do, especially underestimating a rival. U must crush your enemy totally. Never let up off their necks.

Go Canes 🙌🏼
What you just said is laughable. Briles as the best OC in college football? Are you kidding me? I don't see many schools knocking down his door. Why didn't Saban bring him in when Enos left Bama? His offense is gimmicky. Just like Taggert. They rely on a fast tempo to catch the defense in bad situations to be successful. That's not even a scheme. It's just playing the 2-minute drill the whole game to where down the defense. That is a strategy not a scheme. His spread concept has merit, but defenses have adjusted (a la the "Striker") since Chip Kelly introduced it to college football many years ago. It doesn't make him an OC genius. Just running a version of Chip Kelly's system that Willie Taggert has followed. He's a good match for Taggert that's about it. Lastly, A really good OC is a really good recruiter as well. So far, FSU's had no QB in the last 2 cycles and they have a lowly ranked 3-star for 2020. I don't see any top QB's even looking at FSU since the Briles hire.
 
Your point is valid but you should be aware how this board would react to pro-FSU opinions.

I'd also take this seriously if you weren't trying to quote a book that a lot of people find to be ridiculous.
 
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