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Watching some Georgia Mark Richt games. We might be headed to power run and play action offense. Mark Richt had no choice but to pass it this season once Walton got injured. Going back to Georgia days Richt always had to two back system to count on. With RB recruits coming in like Lorenzo Lingard, Cam Davis, and Realus George at FB we will likely go back to a power run team with a few RPO's for Nkosi Perry (hopefully). I would love to see Mark Helfrich join this staff as our 10th assitant coach but I don't see that coming. Your Thoughts?
 
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We are 106th out of 129 teams in completion percentage. I don't think the best coach in the world could get Rosier into the top 25. It was rather ominous when they moved Rosier out of the pocket and basically ran the same play as the last TD in the Pitt game and Rosier under threw JT4 by a mile. I'm sure they practiced it all week, and it was still a horrible throw. He missed badly on just about every throw when he was on the move last night. You would think a baseball player would have a more accurate arm and the ability to throw on the run.

We need a more accurate QB with a stronger arm. We also are in desperate need of an OL that can convert 3rd and short and 1st and goal from the 2. We need an offense that can drive the length of the field. They were fortunate to have a short field most of the season created by the turnovers. And even then they squandered many of those opportunities like twice at Pitt and last night after the muffed punt in the first quarter.

But that doesn't mean John Richt or the play calling hasn't contributed to the problem. Knowing our limitations on offense, before the game I felt like to beat a superior team we needed to come out with DeeJay in the wildcat and throw the playbook at them. I can't fathom why you wait until it is 31-0 to do that.

The answer lies somewhere in between talent and coaching. We need to improve on both.
 
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loeTed92 said:
Watching some Georgia Mark Richt games. We might be headed to power run and play action offense. Mark Richt had no choice but to pass it this season once Walton got injured. Going back to Georgia days Richt always had to two back system to count on. With RB recruits coming in like Lorenzo Lingard, Cam Davis, and Realus George at FB we will likely go back to a power run team with a few RPO's for Nkosi Perry (hopefully). I would love to see Mark Helfrich join this staff as our 10th assitant coach but I don't see that coming. Your Thoughts?
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Helfrich would be an awesome hire. No assistant is out of reach with the pedigree that Richts name carries.
 
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Canesfreak89 said:
loeTed92 said:
Watching some Georgia Mark Richt games. We might be headed to power run and play action offense. Mark Richt had no choice but to pass it this season once Walton got injured. Going back to Georgia days Richt always had to two back system to count on. With RB recruits coming in like Lorenzo Lingard, Cam Davis, and Realus George at FB we will likely go back to a power run team with a few RPO's for Nkosi Perry (hopefully). I would love to see Mark Helfrich join this staff as our 10th assitant coach but I don't see that coming. Your Thoughts?
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Helfrich would be an awesome hire. No assistant is out of reach with the pedigree that Richts name carries.
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Is Kelly not bringing him back?
 
Rosier is awful... in no shape or form is he a D1 caliber QB... he needs to head back to Mobile and apply at jiffy lube
 
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Offense needs the right qb.
Kaaya=above average passer, no mobility
9-4
Not an nfl caliber qb

Rosier=below average passer, average mobility
10-2 (would be 11-2, Arkansas State),
ACC coastal champs. Definitely not an NFL caliber qb

Perry=?
 
I hope Perry is the guy. Having a deep corps of RB, WRs, and TEs next year will help a lot, but we need a better QB. I hope Perry wins it.

Also, is our 2018 QB coming in the winter? Williams
 
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loeTed92 said:
Watching some Georgia Mark Richt games. We might be headed to power run and play action offense. Mark Richt had no choice but to pass it this season once Walton got injured. Going back to Georgia days Richt always had to two back system to count on. With RB recruits coming in like Lorenzo Lingard, Cam Davis, and Realus George at FB we will likely go back to a power run team with a few RPO's for Nkosi Perry (hopefully). I would love to see Mark Helfrich join this staff as our 10th assitant coach but I don't see that coming. Your Thoughts?
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There is no need to watch old Georgia tapes. I expected the offense you are describing when Richt was hired. I was thrilled at the prospect. I posted it here. Gorgeous basic power football. Georgia totally turned the physical tables on Auburn yesterday and they were birthrighted to do so, via the 45 average rushing attempts per game and power commitment. Meanwhile we open the game with a hesitant pitch toss and seemed to think we had no chance to do anything straight ahead. Just once I wish we had used the hurry up and run the ball approach, with authority. It looked decent up the middle a couple of times with Homer on quick hitters but the game was long decided at that point.

Somewhere along the line Mark Richt became a wimp. He heard about the RPO and decided it sounded cute. Hey, 2 for the price of 1. I'll fool the world. Head coaches as they get older generally move in that direction, toward clever as opposed to physical. Too exhausting to knock huge human beings out of the way. I saw it with Shula. Same with Bowden. Countless other examples.

It's always hilarious that Shula is somehow given credit for adapting to Marino, when all he did was doom the Dolphins to irrelevance via the pantyhose passing style. The Dolphin rushing attempt numbers plummeted to comical level, sometimes single digits. They led all game at San Diego in a 1994 playoff matchup yet were out rushed 40 attempts to 8.

That's the danger of becoming mesmerized by passing and finesse. The Canes had fraud rushing attempt numbers all season, as I've mentioned here. Miami was 13th in the ACC in rushes per game at barely 32. Last season in Richt's first year we were 12th in the ACC at barely above 33.

Richt had only one season like that in Georgia, in 2008.

If we've going to rely on this RPO and shotgun garbage then it needs to be more sophisticated, and founded around a physical running game. If you watch teams like Clemson and Auburn there is tons of motion and attempted confusion but lots of it is camouflaging very basic running plays. They'll spread out all the bells and whistles but if you ignore those distractions and simply watch the offensive line and the handoff they could not be more basic. Essentially they are running standard plays but with fewer people remaining in the box to contain them. Auburn in particular is known for that.

Meanwhile the Canes rely on these semi-apologetic delayed looping handoffs. I knew we were in trouble beginning with the Notre Dame game because the wrinkle we added to the running game was an inside misdirection play with Homer. Yeah, it popped a couple of times. Who cares? Once again that means you are trying to fool people instead of knocking them aside. Not going to happen.

Watch Stanford or San Diego State or Georgia and you see commitment to a more traditional offensive approach. Or watch countless teams who have fully committed to an athletic quarterback out of the spread. The Canes keep doing it in half assed fashion, like running laughable shotgun fakes with a Brad Kaaya incapable of running the ball, or this season the limited permutations with a Malik Rosier incapable of throwing the ball.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
loeTed92 said:
Watching some Georgia Mark Richt games. We might be headed to power run and play action offense. Mark Richt had no choice but to pass it this season once Walton got injured. Going back to Georgia days Richt always had to two back system to count on. With RB recruits coming in like Lorenzo Lingard, Cam Davis, and Realus George at FB we will likely go back to a power run team with a few RPO's for Nkosi Perry (hopefully). I would love to see Mark Helfrich join this staff as our 10th assitant coach but I don't see that coming. Your Thoughts?
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There is no need to watch old Georgia tapes. I expected the offense you are describing when Richt was hired. I was thrilled at the prospect. I posted it here. Gorgeous basic power football. Georgia totally turned the physical tables on Auburn yesterday and they were birthrighted to do so, via the 45 average rushing attempts per game and power commitment. Meanwhile we open the game with a hesitant pitch toss and seemed to think we had no chance to do anything straight ahead. Just once I wish we had used the hurry up and run the ball approach, with authority. It looked decent up the middle a couple of times with Homer on quick hitters but the game was long decided at that point.

Somewhere along the line Mark Richt became a wimp. He heard about the RPO and decided it sounded cute. Hey, 2 for the price of 1. I'll fool the world. Head coaches as they get older generally move in that direction, toward clever as opposed to physical. Too exhausting to knock huge human beings out of the way. I saw it with Shula. Same with Bowden. Countless other examples.

It's always hilarious that Shula is somehow given credit for adapting to Marino, when all he did was doom the Dolphins to irrelevance via the pantyhose passing style. The Dolphin rushing attempt numbers plummeted to comical level, sometimes single digits. They led all game at San Diego in a 1994 playoff matchup yet were out rushed 40 attempts to 8.

That's the danger of becoming mesmerized by passing and finesse. The Canes had fraud rushing attempt numbers all season, as I've mentioned here. Miami was 13th in the ACC in rushes per game at barely 32. Last season in Richt's first year we were 12th in the ACC at barely above 33.

Richt had only one season like that in Georgia, in 2008.

If we've going to rely on this RPO and shotgun garbage then it needs to be more sophisticated, and founded around a physical running game. If you watch teams like Clemson and Auburn there is tons of motion and attempted confusion but lots of it is camouflaging very basic running plays. They'll spread out all the bells and whistles but if you ignore those distractions and simply watch the offensive line and the handoff they could not be more basic. Essentially they are running standard plays but with fewer people remaining in the box to contain them. Auburn in particular is known for that.

Meanwhile the Canes rely on these semi-apologetic delayed looping handoffs. I knew we were in trouble beginning with the Notre Dame game because the wrinkle we added to the running game was an inside misdirection play with Homer. Yeah, it popped a couple of times. Who cares? Once again that means you are trying to fool people instead of knocking them aside. Not going to happen.

Watch Stanford or San Diego State or Georgia and you see commitment to a more traditional offensive approach. Or watch countless teams who have fully committed to an athletic quarterback out of the spread. The Canes keep doing it in half assed fashion, like running laughable shotgun fakes with a Brad Kaaya incapable of running the ball, or this season the limited permutations with a Malik Rosier incapable of throwing the ball.
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Exactly!! That’s why it’s mind boggling why Mark Richt committed to this simple RPO offense with a inaccurate QB. Richt failed by not putting Rosier in a system similar to Clemson or Auburn to hide his QB weakness.



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