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Great article on culture.

I sincerely doubt Diazaster caused the culture problem, however I would side heavily on the notion that he came in with a non-viable solution to fix it.
The "culture problem" has been around for a minute...
 
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I can’t ever recall a time when there were so many players and staff members willing to talk to the media as a source. That’s a huge red flag when it comes to leadership.
 
The great culture debate has folks twisted like pretzels as they analyze and pontificate. It's not that difficult, folks. Culture is built on discipline, expectations and accountability - which in turn raises confidence and eventually leads to consistent success on the field. If that's not established and players held to standards, then your program risks being a ****-show. Definite issue when you put today or the next game ahead of a establishing long-term culture.
In other words, like dealing with a 5-year-old, actions need to have consequences. If your QB skips a practice, he pays a significant price for his selfish stupidity. The same if he has a brain fart and tosses the ball backward. The same for a backup QB requiring a sabbatical & then posting instagram photos with his lovely squeeze. These are the face of the offense, supposed team leaders. When you cut these guys slack it's sending a horrific message to the team.
A culture isn't established on slogans, props and sideline theatrics. You play hard as a team, play with discipline, execute within a system and then celebrate after you accomplished something.
The notion that only Miami players smoke weed and find time to party is extremely naive. They're 19, 20, 21 year old with elevated testosterone levels. This **** happens in locker rooms across the country. The Canes' of old weren't choir boys, either. And if you run the place like a prison camp, word gets out and recruits will definitely go elsewhere. That said, the coaching staff and team leaders - who are they at Miami - need to maintain a semblance of control. Again, you need standards and ultimately consequences.
The head coach **** well better address the problem or he'll be back coordinating the defense at La Tech. Stop trying to manufacture a culture, walk away from the microphone, put the head down and get to work. Find and cultivate a quarterback who isn't a knucklehead. Maybe there's hope in the new coordinator and his uptempo offense. On the surface the offense is fun and games, but behind the scenes first requires discipline and tremendous attention to detail.
In the end, culture is fairly mundane stuff.
 
Caneillac said:
I can’t ever recall a time when there were so many players and staff members willing to talk to the media as a source. That’s a huge red flag when it comes to leadership.
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Let's be honest, we've never seen an era where social media, celebrity, influencer culture, et al is what it is now.

There used to be the newspaper and ESPN. Now there are a zillion Canes sites, blogs, Instagram accounts, Facebook groups all attempting to "cover" the Canes.

More people are willing to talk to the media now as we live in a 24/7 sports news cycle.
 
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The Franchise said:
Manure tricked all the mongoloids with his culture shell game. He’s a masterful huckster.

I’ve never seen a successful coach crying about culture after 4 years at a program. But he’s hoodwinked and bamboozled the mongoloids into thinking he hasn’t been the biggest factor in this mysterious culture problem.
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Because successful programs typically don't have culture issues.
 
The Franchise said:
Manure tricked all the mongoloids with his culture shell game. He’s a masterful huckster.

I’ve never seen a successful coach crying about culture after 4 years at a program. But he’s hoodwinked and bamboozled the mongoloids into thinking he hasn’t been the biggest factor in this mysterious culture problem.
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Manny went all in on this culture to grab recruits, and now he acts like there's this mysterious problem.
 
The recent conversations here regarding culture, and removing players to stop the spread of the disease leads to a couple of important questions:

1. Are we as fans and as a program okay with 5 players or 10 players being booted to stop the disease meaning we will be playing well below 75 scholarship players (this would also affect our counters too correct)?

2. To fix the culture issue while removing players will we be patient with Manny or the next head coach when the team falters to another mediocre-type season(s)?
 
bacane said:
The great culture debate has folks twisted like pretzels as they analyze and pontificate. It's not that difficult, folks. Culture is built on discipline, expectations and accountability - which in turn raises confidence and eventually leads to consistent success on the field. If that's not established and players held to standards, then your program risks being a ****-show. Definite issue when you put today or the next game ahead of a establishing long-term culture.
In other words, like dealing with a 5-year-old, actions need to have consequences. If your QB skips a practice, he pays a significant price for his selfish stupidity. The same if he has a brain fart and tosses the ball backward. The same for a backup QB requiring a sabbatical & then posting instagram photos with his lovely squeeze. These are the face of the offense, supposed team leaders. When you cut these guys slack it's sending a horrific message to the team.
A culture isn't established on slogans, props and sideline theatrics. You play hard as a team, play with discipline, execute within a system and then celebrate after you accomplished something.
The notion that only Miami players smoke weed and find time to party is extremely naive. They're 19, 20, 21 year old with elevated testosterone levels. This **** happens in locker rooms across the country. The Canes' of old weren't choir boys, either. And if you run the place like a prison camp, word gets out and recruits will definitely go elsewhere. That said, the coaching staff and team leaders - who are they at Miami - need to maintain a semblance of control. Again, you need standards and ultimately consequences.
The head coach **** well better address the problem or he'll be back coordinating the defense at La Tech. Stop trying to manufacture a culture, walk away from the microphone, put the head down and get to work. Find and cultivate a quarterback who isn't a knucklehead. Maybe there's hope in the new coordinator and his uptempo offense. On the surface the offense is fun and games, but behind the scenes first requires discipline and tremendous attention to detail.
In the end, culture is fairly mundane stuff.
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Culture, but individual actions with your fellow brothers, for the good of the program in order to win games, should be the template.
That is why the scholarship was tendered to play for the Canes, and that is why, the Coaching staff needs to be held accountable, along with the players.
All are in it together.
 
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I like the article. Hoping Manny is able to "lead by example". He has served under some decent head coaches before he got here, so he should have some basis of good culture vs, our culture. So far, I've only seen a bunch of dancing, additional bling, and a terrible OC hire pre-Lash. We shall see.
 
The Barry Jackson article is all propaganda leaked from Manny himself through a "UM source". We have a "culture" problem because the coaching staff sucks and is incapable of establishing accountability and creating a disciplined program. Manny Diaz is a bigger snake than Al Golden himself. This is a joke.

If you aren't smart enough to figure this out, you deserve to be disappointed when we go 7-5 next year.
 
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nycane said:
@Dwinstitles @caneinorlando they don’t get manny created this. Now he’s dividing the team. When butch got hired everyone knew there was a new sheriff in town. Mario would be similar. The kids clearly don’t fear this guy.
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Yea they think of him as a backstabber. I keep bringing up the coach from last chance U. The kids didn't respect him it's why they played like ****. It was like a gf cheating and she just kept doing it and the cuck is forgiving her constantly. To me Manny is that same kind of coach without the recruiting.
 
CampHillCane said:
Don't want to be the "grammar police," but that article has at least four colons that aren't used correctly. Not to mention that his thesaurus must've burst into flames from overuse. And then...it just ended with no closing paragraph. Did he get paid for that?
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The writing and editing on that site is generally atrocious. They still manage to break some things every now and then, and I will pretty much always root for any Cane-positive endeavor to succeed, not to mention they are providing an incubator for budding writers/analysts to hone their craft, but it's hard to understand why anyone would waste their valuable time reading what that site puts out.

And yes, I get the irony of posting that last fragment on this site.
 
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Silentobserver said:
The recent conversations here regarding culture, and removing players to stop the spread of the disease leads to a couple of important questions:

1. Are we as fans and as a program okay with 5 players or 10 players being booted to stop the disease meaning we will be playing well below 75 scholarship players (this would also affect our counters too correct)?

2. To fix the culture issue while removing players will we be patient with Manny or the next head coach when the team falters to another mediocre-type season(s)?
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Yes.

No.
 
Both things can be true- Diaz is partly responsible for the failed culture AND the failed culture needs to change if Miami is going to be successful again. It sounds like a new head coach that cleans house is what the program needs.

Also, I saw JWs name mentioned several times. He needs to be encouraged to transfer.
 
Silentobserver said:
The recent conversations here regarding culture, and removing players to stop the spread of the disease leads to a couple of important questions:

1. Are we as fans and as a program okay with 5 players or 10 players being booted to stop the disease meaning we will be playing well below 75 scholarship players (this would also affect our counters too correct)?

2. To fix the culture issue while removing players will we be patient with Manny or the next head coach when the team falters to another mediocre-type season(s)?
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You bring up some good questions we need to ask ourselves as fans. However, it continues to be glossed over about coaches being equally if not more apart of the culture problem. Manny has been here for four years; I'm going to continue to harp on THIS FACT. Why is that so important and should no longer be glossed over? B/c Manny has had first hand knowledge as to the inner workings of this team. He had first hand knowledge as to players habits, and who was really about this U and who wasn't.

If Jeff Thomas was really a cancer, then why was he let back on the team? If Jarren Williams had poor study habits, missed classes and practices, why was he talked in to not transferring, and worst yet, pacified and given the keys as a leader? Why was Jarren named starter, but Lo was buried on the bench b/c of the same "alleged" habits? If Mark Pope can't run routes, why is he first off the bench instead of Payton? If Hillery doesn't give af about technique, listening to coaches or former All American players, why does he still have a scholarship? Why was Tate allowed to come and go as he pleased due to "personal reasons?"

See, if the players who are trying to embody what it means to dawn the Orange and Green are witnessing all of this w/ no consequence, ****, we can even argue that these bad tendencies was rewarded, then what does anyone think is going to happen? There's going to be cliques, murmuring, division, and no cohesiveness as a "team", b/c there is no team. To further complicate matters, if the coach who is allowing this then goes to the media and cry about culture problems, what player is going to respond positively to this?

To answer your question, the time to remove the cancer was day 1, not day 380, so no, patience should not be given. Patience would've been given had this been done from the beginning, instead, Manny made it appear the cancer was his former colleagues, the offensive side of the ball, and he himself behaved in that manner as he coined #TNM. Instead of eradicating the cancer he "allegedly" witnessed for four years, he metastasized the cancer by being a cancer himself. He perpetuated a losing culture by having guys dance on the sidelines, award MVP trophies for the losing player, and allowing T.O trinkets to still be handed out.

The real question is not getting rid of such players, but if this were to happen, will the players respect him when he has had a major role in creating this atmosphere? He might not have been the originator of our culture problem, but since he was complicit during his time here, he's equally, if not more, guilty.
 
Rellyrell said:
You bring up some good questions we need to ask ourselves as fans. However, it continues to be glossed over about coaches being equally if not more apart of the culture problem. Manny has been here for four years; I'm going to continue to harp on THIS FACT. Why is that so important and should no longer be glossed over? B/c Manny has had first hand knowledge as to the inner workings of this team. He had first hand knowledge as to players habits, and who was really about this U and who wasn't.

If Jeff Thomas was really a cancer, then why was he let back on the team? If Jarren Williams had poor study habits, missed classes and practices, why was he talked in to not transferring, and worst yet, pacified and given the keys as a leader? Why was Jarren named starter, but Lo was buried on the bench b/c of the same "alleged" habits? If Mark Pope can't run routes, why is he first off the bench instead of Payton? If Hillery doesn't give af about technique, listening to coaches or former All American players, why does he still have a scholarship? Why was Tate allowed to come and go as he pleased due to "personal reasons?"

See, if the players who are trying to embody what it means to dawn the Orange and Green are witnessing all of this w/ no consequence, ****, we can even argue that these bad tendencies was rewarded, then what does anyone think is going to happen? There's going to be cliques, murmuring, division, and no cohesiveness as a "team", b/c there is no team. To further complicate matters, if the coach who is allowing this then goes to the media and cry about culture problems, what player is going to respond positively to this?

To answer your question, the time to remove the cancer was day 1, not day 380, so no, patience should not be given. Patience would've been given had this been done from the beginning, instead, Manny made it appear the cancer was his former colleagues, the offensive side of the ball, and he himself behaved in that manner as he coined #TNM. Instead of eradicating the cancer he "allegedly" witnessed for four years, he metastasized the cancer by being a cancer himself. He perpetuated a losing culture by having guys dance on the sidelines, award MVP trophies for the losing player, and allowing T.O trinkets to still be handed out.

The real question is not getting rid of such players, but if this were to happen, will the players respect him when he has had a major role in creating this atmosphere? He might not have been the originator of our culture problem, but since he was complicit during his time here, he's equally, if not more, guilty.
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I think you make great points about what Manny has allowed to happen. That being said, at this point we’re not getting anywhere by placing blame. The fact is that we have a bunch of kids who don’t care, and that has to change very soon.
 
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