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After a 4 1/2 year sabbatical I’m back on the mats. I’m fatter and less conditioned but surprised at how quickly a lot of what I knew is coming back. 3 weeks in and I’m feeling good.

Also the reason I took a break is into it now too. My son started training with the toddler class. He loves it.
 


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Nothing cracks me up harder than when wrestlers think they're gonna wrestle in a Jiu-jitsu match.

Craig Jones literally gave Chael the single leg, just so he could trap him from side control with the Buggy.

That was child's play 🤣🤣🤣.
 
Memnon said:


🤣🤣🤣

Nothing cracks me up harder than when wrestlers think they're gonna wrestle in a Jiu-jitsu match.

Craig Jones literally gave Chael the single leg, just so he could trap him from side control with the Buggy.

That was child's play 🤣🤣🤣.
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High level wrestling is the cheat code for Jiu Jitsu.

Jones hitting a buggy choke on a 48 year old Chael is a laughable example of a wrestler in Jiu Jitsu. He is not a competitive grappler, he's a podcaster. Dorian Olivarez is a true example of a high level wrestler competing in Jiu Jitsu. He won ADCC Trials as a 17 year old and had previously won Super32.

With very little BJJ experience at the time, Khamzat Chimaev would submit entire rooms of black belts with his wrestling. As competitive grapplers now say "Wrestling is meta in Jiu Jitsu"
 
PUNCICANE said:
High level wrestling is the cheat code for Jiu Jitsu.

Jones hitting a buggy choke on a 48 year old Chael is a laughable example of a wrestler in Jiu Jitsu. He is not a competitive grappler, he's a podcaster. Dorian Olivarez is a true example of a high level wrestler competing in Jiu Jitsu. He won ADCC Trials as a 17 year old and had previously won Super32.

With very little BJJ experience at the time, Khamzat Chimaev would submit entire rooms of black belts with his wrestling. As competitive grapplers now say "Wrestling is meta in Jiu Jitsu"
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Khamzat is a Black belt in BJJ though, trained under Nascimento.

Dorian has trained in BJJ since he was 10 years old. He's not a Wrestler who transitioned to BJJ, he quite literally did both simultaneously for his entire life with his Dad training him.

He's also a Danaher student, so he's learned under arguably the best teacher in the art since he was in High school.
 
Memnon said:
Khamzat is a Black belt in BJJ though, trained under Nascimento.

Dorian has trained in BJJ since he was 10 years old. He's not a Wrestler who transitioned to BJJ, he quite literally did both simultaneously for his entire life with his Dad training him.

He's also a Danaher student, so he's learned under arguably the best teacher in the art since he was in High school.
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The purpose of Dorian or Khamzat training in Jiu Jitsu is to work on executing their wrestling against it. Their game is to take you down, guard pass, control and smash. The wrestling part of their grappling is what makes them great, not the Jiu Jitsu.

Khamzat was a wrestler learning Jiu Jitsu in Sweden. Out of the same gym that a friend of mine trains out of. Before he fought in the UFC, he was a blue belt destroying high level black belts. My buddy said he would drag them back to the center of the mats to maul them over and over.

And just look at the landscape of mixed martial arts. The majority of the best fighters in the world have a wrestling background. Meanwhile what happens to guys like Kron Gracie?
 
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