Golden's thought process when he took the Canes job

[NVA CANE]

All the talk about lack of speed and a Big 10 transformation has me wondering what golden was actually thinking when he took the Miami job. He had some 25+ years to sift through and figure out what works and what doesn't work for the recruiting base he had access to. He also had the example of what the SEC was doing because the players he had access to were similar to what LSU, UF, etc have.

So what was he actually thinking when he took the job? That he was simply going to disregard the history of success that was laid before him by remaking the Canes into a Big 10 plodder, or did he initially intend to follow the blueprint except with a 3-4 and changed it up when it didn't work?

 

[UMFarArcher]

Golden was thinking PSU South.

He just hasn't gotten around to dropping the soap in the shower yet.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

You can't corch scared at Miami.

He thought he could.

 

[caneaddict]

he thought this was temple, and got steamrolled in every aspect possible

 

[BigPoppaCane]

F A G * THOUGHT HE WOULD BE AT PENILE U BY NOW

 

[cane since birth]

You can pull that slow play stuff over at PSU with the run happy teams, cant do that here especially with the players in the area, ACC has a ton of spread teams, even the SEC is turning into a more spread league, been saying the best strategy in college now is a aggressive defense and a spread offense

 

[Tad Footeball]

People always default to the PSU comparisons and that's somewhat warranted but Al Groh was actually the bigger mentor to our dear corch than good ol JoePa. I think Alfredo thought he'd be able to implement Groh's nonsense here and it'd automatically succeed based on the superior local talent.

 

[Al Foil]

Bull****...

He has gone after the fastest kids in the state of Florida BUT HAS FAILED TO LAND THEM OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO PLAY IN THIS SYSTEM!

 

[Southbeach44]

He was thinking.." I can get 2.5 million a year, live in South Florida, and con my way into a long GUARANTEED contract..." Who wouldn't take that deal???

 

[Andrew]

He thought he was the best coach to ever coach here and knew more than Howard, Jimmy and Butch.

 

[NVA CANE]

People always default to the PSU comparisons and that's somewhat warranted but Al Groh was actually the bigger mentor to our dear corch than good ol JoePa. I think Alfredo thought he'd be able to implement Groh's nonsense here and it'd automatically succeed based on the superior local talent.

I think this is accurate. IMO he thought he could plug the more talented south Florida players into his system and succeed. He never actually accounted for the football cultural differences. He also didn't expect so much resistance towards his passive philosophy but that's due to him not considering south Florida football culture.

Lastly he believed his own hype. He had the most talented teams at temple, he should have known simply plugging in south Florida players into his system and expecting wins wasn't gonna happen when he couldn't even get it done at temple.

 

[NVA CANE]

He thought he was the best coach to ever coach here and knew more than Howard, Jimmy and Butch.

Agree with this also. He's pretty deluded when it comes to his coaching acumen. The guy is terrible yet has no self awareness.

 

[oduke1]

He thought he was the best coach to ever coach here and knew more than Howard, Jimmy and Butch.

This... Its the 3-4, stupid.

Its easier to recruit 4-3 vs 3-4 because of the size of the guys you have to get. The 4-3 gives you flexibility to move fast and aggressive So. FL safeties and move them down to linebacker and take fast linebackers and move them to DE's and get after the QB.

So, I think the big factor that has doomed *** is trying to recruit for a 3-4. Some SFL studs he recruited didn't commit because of the way corch no D set up this passive BS these past years. In a 4-3 its a lot easier to recruit Miami guys.

One more thing. those 4-3 kids also added a little bit more versatility to the great championship teams and especially the special teams part of it. Al's Miami plan was flawed from the start. Never had a chance and the idiot was either too stupid or too stubborn to change.

 

[DadeCountyFinest]

He thought he was the best coach to ever coach here and knew more than Howard, Jimmy and Butch.

This... Its the 3-4, stupid.

Its easier to recruit 4-3 vs 3-4 because of the size of the guys you have to get. The 4-3 gives you flexibility to move fast and aggressive So. FL safeties and move them down to linebacker and take fast linebackers and move them to DE's and get after the QB.

So, I think the big factor that has doomed *** is trying to recruit for a 3-4. Some SFL studs he recruited didn't commit because of the way corch no D set up this passive BS these past years. In a 4-3 its a lot easier to recruit Miami guys.

One more thing. those 4-3 kids also added a little bit more versatility to the great championship teams and especially the special teams part of it. Al's Miami plan was flawed from the start. Never had a chance and the idiot was either too stupid or too stubborn to change.

This^^^^^^^

 

[BigDikCane]

Golden tried to turn Duke Johnson into Christian Okoye is all you need to know.

 

[Gatorhater]

Dude has this big book he wrote about how to be great coach. He took job because he thought he is great and could do it. Given that, it is THE U! Succeed here and next step is NFL. HC's need to believe in themselves. Al's failure was lacking the ability to realize some of his stuff didn't work. JJ ran the Wishbone at OSU and even TEASED us about installing it here. He did change Howard's 5-2 defense to his own 4-3 and doubled down on more so than even Howard. JJ instantly gave up his own offense and embraced the pro style of Howard. He had the sense to know his offense was not the thing to do here because he had a much better choice. He then destroyed the team that created the wishbone. JJ want to win. Al wants to prove a point -- that he is smarter.

Al is convinced that hard work will overcome anything. That is something our system tells all over us. "You can be whatever you want to be." Al believes that you work hard and you can be Duke Johnson. Study hard and you too can be Barack Obama or George Bush -- wait those are the examples of "you don't need good grades." Al's entire system is designed to give slower, smart kids a chance to compete with teams like our old Canes and it works once every few years. We were the perfect place for his social experiment, right down to like-thinker Donna. He failed like all social experiments do.

 

[Onion01]

 

[brock]

Golden tried to turn Duke Johnson into Christian Okoye is all you need to know.

So would Duke have lasted in the NFL if he stayed at 185? Duke still averaged almost 7 ypc and had 1650 yards which was his best season by far. And oh he actually finished the season healthy as well...

 

[BuckeyesPower3TAwesome]

All the talk about lack of speed and a Big 10 transformation has me wondering what golden was actually thinking when he took the Miami job. He had some 25+ years to sift through and figure out what works and what doesn't work for the recruiting base he had access to. He also had the example of what the SEC was doing because the players he had access to were similar to what LSU, UF, etc have.

So what was he actually thinking when he took the job? That he was simply going to disregard the history of success that was laid before him by remaking the Canes into a Big 10 plodder, or did he initially intend to follow the blueprint except with a 3-4 and changed it up when it didn't work?

Guys, "This Guy" Allan Goldman GUy's thinking that "He could" bring a "blue collared mentrality" to this team guy's and instilling "toughnest" in the trnehces Guy's, but GUy's it's turning out that "he was" wrong in this crapacity Guy's.

 

[BigDikCane]

Golden tried to turn Duke Johnson into Christian Okoye is all you need to know.

So would Duke have lasted in the NFL if he stayed at 185? Duke still averaged almost 7 ypc and had 1650 yards which was his best season by far. And oh he actually finished the season healthy as well...

Didn't Duke lead the nation in total yards his freshman year? So whats your point? Golden put to much pressure on Duke b/c he couldn't bring in more talented backs. **** we had a **** safety playing running back b/c gordo is a ****** recruiter and doesn't know issh about coaching.