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P-Tizzle said:
What’s the difference between a concern and a glaring weakness?
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A concern can be covered up or corrected through adjustments in scheme or lineup. A glaring weakness, on the other hand, is something that nothing can fix.

Last season, there were depth concerns at defensive tackle, but Mesidor was able to step in and be at least serviceable. At the same time, the secondary was a glaring weakness—one that no adjustment could possibly fix. The staff attempted to move Porter to nickel, but it only made the secondary worse. That weakness cost Miami every game they lost.

If the secondary had only been a concern, not a glaring weakness, Miami wouldn’t have lost to Syracuse or Iowa State.
 
Hstokes1447 said:
A concern can be covered up or corrected through adjustments in scheme or lineup. A glaring weakness, on the other hand, is something that nothing can fix.

Last season, there were depth concerns at defensive tackle, but Mesidor was able to step in and be at least serviceable. At the same time, the secondary was a glaring weakness—one that no adjustment could possibly fix. The staff attempted to move Porter to nickel, but it only made the secondary worse. That weakness cost Miami every game they lost.

If the secondary had only been a concern, not a glaring weakness, Miami wouldn’t have lost to Syracuse or Iowa State.
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how does the 101st ranked penalized team fix this with scheme or lineup? remove all the players who commit penalties? don't play the game with 11 players? Help me understand how being a terribly penalized team isn't a glaring weakness
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
The penalty on Mali's third TD was probably more scuttling.
I had to google scuttle just cuz I'm a weirdo like that...

Verb. To sink (one's own ship) deliberately by holing it or opening its seacocks to let water in.
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Disagree. We had 2nd & 13 from our own 43 after it, and we were getting the ball to start the second half. If we didn't convert, we punt & pin, which we did successfully, and the chances of FSU getting points before the half were pretty low. We nearly got another turnover on FSU's first play of their next series too.

The hold left us 1st & 18 from our own 18 yard line. Would have been crazy for Dawson to get aggressive there up 28-3 IMO. Then we punted, Day got the targeting, and they started on our own 47 yard line. We gave away 1/4 of the field because of penalties. That penalty and Day's penalty were the pivot in the game, not stuff like Mario & Dawson getting conservative or Hetherman playing prevent (not saying this is your claim, just a general point). We ran, succesfully, the first 3 plays of that drive, because of their lack of numbers in the box. Field position probably had a little to do with it too. I guess we could criticize Dawson for going to the well one too many times with the 4th consecutive run, but if Lofton doesn't hold it's 2nd & 8 on our 28, and our whole playbook is available to continue the drive and decisively end the game with points.
 
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P-Tizzle said:
So DL depth and penalties is not a glaring weakness of this Hurricanes team?

And glaring weakness is not a concern although it’s on the scale of concern? Okay
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I believe DL depth would only be a glaring weakness if the team didn’t have the bodies at all. There are talented players on this team who haven’t had the opportunities and I believe going into a weaker stretch of the schedule the staff now has the ability to get those young guys more reps to build depth.

Now if there was no possible hope of having depth, that what would make it a glaring weakness

Potential DE Depth
Malik Bryant
Booker Pickett Jr. (got burn against FSU)
Cole McConathy
Herbert Scroggins III

Potential DT Depth
Artavius Jones
Daylen Russell
Donta Simpson Jr. (got some burn against FSU and looked good)

If just 1 DT and 1 DE can get into the rotation, that would be a game changer.
 
Hstokes1447 said:
I believe DL depth would only be a glaring weakness if the team didn’t have the bodies at all. There are talented players on this team who haven’t had the opportunities and I believe going into a weaker stretch of the schedule the staff now has the ability to get those young guys more reps to build depth.

Now if there was no possible hope of having depth, that what would make it a glaring weakness

Potential DE Depth
Malik Bryant
Booker Pickett Jr. (got burn against FSU)
Cole McConathy
Herbert Scroggins III

Potential DT Depth
Artavius Jones
Daylen Russell
Donta Simpson Jr. (got some burn against FSU and looked good)

If just 1 DT and 1 DE can get into the rotation, that would be a game changer.
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1. You didn't address penalties. And I'm not shocked that you didn't.
2. DL depth is a glaring weakness right now. a few weeks from now, it may not be. Booker played two snaps vs FSU (I guess you would consider that "some burn" but okay. Simpson played 5 snaps but according to you he looked great. Waiting for you to explain what Simpson did that stood out to you during that game; PFF graded him at 57). Scroggins was on IL and declared out vs FSU. He may miss time. McConathy hasn't played all year because of injury. Bryant hasn't played in several weeks. In fact, his last game was vs Bethune Cookman. Jones has played 1 snap all year.

The fact that you have to say, "hey, maybe in the future more guys will play along the DL" is proof that DL depth RIGHT NOW is a glaring weakness of this team. This isn't hard.
 
flips said:
Disagree. We had 2nd & 13 from our own 43 after it, and we were getting the ball to start the second half. If we didn't convert, we punt & pin, which we did successfully, and the chances of FSU getting points before the half were pretty low. We nearly got another turnover on FSU's first play of their next series too.

The hold left us 1st & 18 from our own 18 yard line. Would have been crazy for Dawson to get aggressive there up 28-3 IMO. Then we punted, Day got the targeting, and they started on our own 47 yard line. That penalty and Day's penalty were the pivot in the game, not stuff like Mario & Dawson getting conservative or Hetherman playing prevent (not saying this is your claim, just a general point). We ran, succesfully, the first 3 plays of that drive, because of their lack of numbers in the box. Field position probably had a little to do with it too. I guess we could criticize Dawson for going to the well one too many times with the 4th consecutive run, but if Lofton doesn't hold it's 2nd & 8 on our 28, and our whole playbook is available to continue the drive and decisively end the game with points.
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I went through the whole last couple drives play by play yesterday. For the people who complained we didn't lean on the OL and backs to try to close the game out, we absolutely did on this drive. We got a hold that totally killed it. For the people saying all we did was turtle, well on the last drive, we threw the ball on 2nd down, and 3rd down, then then again on the 4th down before their last drive.

If literally 1-2 plays go differently for the entire last 20 minutes of the game, we win probably 28-11 or 28-19. Instead, we won by 6. Oh well. But to me, it was the execution, not the overall decisions.
 
P-Tizzle said:
how does the 101st ranked penalized team fix this with scheme or lineup? remove all the players who commit penalties? don't play the game with 11 players? Help me understand how being a terribly penalized team isn't a glaring weakness
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I can agree with you on the penalties, but I didn’t address that because it wasn’t related to my question about glaring weaknesses. No coaching staff can scheme against Miami’s penalties, but they can scheme to attack a weak secondary.

This post was about the football team the players on the field and the position groups. But again, I agree that penalties are a major issue and need to be corrected immediately.
 
Hstokes1447 said:
I believe DL depth would only be a glaring weakness if the team didn’t have the bodies at all. There are talented players on this team who haven’t had the opportunities and I believe going into a weaker stretch of the schedule the staff now has the ability to get those young guys more reps to build depth.

Now if there was no possible hope of having depth, that what would make it a glaring weakness

Potential DE Depth
Malik Bryant
Booker Pickett Jr. (got burn against FSU)
Cole McConathy
Herbert Scroggins III
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Cole getting healthy would be huge. Would allay a lot of my worries. Right now it's really hard to give both Bain and Mesidor a rest on early downs, and we definitely want them both out there on 3rd down pass rush situations.
 
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Hstokes1447 said:
I can agree with you on the penalties, but I didn’t address that because it wasn’t related to my question about glaring weaknesses. No coaching staff can scheme against Miami’s penalties, but they can scheme to attack a weak secondary.

This post was about the football team the players on the field and the position groups. But again, I agree that penalties are a major issue and need to be corrected immediately.
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Great, penalties are a glaring weakness of this team. I'm right.
 
P-Tizzle said:
1. You didn't address penalties. And I'm not shocked that you didn't.
2. DL depth is a glaring weakness right now. a few weeks from now, it may not be. Booker played two snaps vs FSU (I guess you would consider that "some burn" but okay. Simpson played 5 snaps but according to you he looked great. Waiting for you to explain what Simpson did that stood out to you during that game; PFF graded him at 57). Scroggins was on IL and declared out vs FSU. He may miss time. McConathy hasn't played all year because of injury. Bryant hasn't played in several weeks. In fact, his last game was vs Bethune Cookman. Jones has played 1 snap all year.

The fact that you have to say, "hey, maybe in the future more guys will play along the DL" is proof that DL depth RIGHT NOW is a glaring weakness of this team. This isn't hard.
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Against FSU, they played nine defensive linemen. How many do you expect to play in a normal rotation?

DE
Rueben Bain – 77 snaps
Akheem Mesidor – 76 snaps
Armondo Blount – 34 snaps
Marquise Lightfoot – 27 snaps
Booker Pickett – 2 snaps

DT
Ahmad Moten – 49 snaps
David Blay – 49 snaps
Justin Scott – 31 snaps
Donta Simpson – 5 snaps

Also, as we all know, it’s a long season, and depth is built over time. There are always players who emerge later in the year. Miami has several upcoming games where they can develop more depth, making depth a concern but not a glaring weakness that cannot be fixed.

In 2024 the answer to the secondary glaring weakness was to move Robby Washington to corner 🤦🏾‍♂️

I see that our definitions of glaring weaknesses differ, so we can agree to disagree.
 
flips said:
Cole getting healthy would be huge. Would allay a lot of my worries. Right now it's really hard to give both Bain and Mesidor a rest on early downs, and we definitely want them both out there on 3rd down pass rush situations.
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He was dressed for the FSU game.
 
Hstokes1447 said:
Against FSU, they played nine defensive linemen. How many do you expect to play in a normal rotation?

DE
Rueben Bain – 77 snaps
Akheem Mesidor – 76 snaps
Armondo Blount – 34 snaps
Marquise Lightfoot – 27 snaps
Booker Pickett – 2 snaps

DT
Ahmad Moten – 49 snaps
David Blay – 49 snaps
Justin Scott – 31 snaps
Donta Simpson – 5 snaps

Also, as we all know, it’s a long season, and depth is built over time. There are always players who emerge later in the year. Miami has several upcoming games where they can develop more depth, making depth a concern but not a glaring weakness that cannot be fixed.

In 2024 the answer to the secondary glaring weakness was to move Robby Washington to corner 🤦🏾‍♂️

I see that our definitions of glaring weaknesses differ, so we can agree to disagree.
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Depth isn't merely about numbers, but quality too. Playing two and five snaps does not constitute as depth pieces. Come on man.

FSU ran 83 total plays vs Miami on Saturday. Bain and Mesidor play 77 and 76 of those plays at DE. So, Blount and Lightfoot didn't play their snaps at that position. Lightfood played more of a spy vs Castellanos, and Blount played more on the inside.

For DT, again, FSU ran 83 plays. Moten and Blay played 49 of them. Scott got 31. Like I said earlier, Blount played his snaps at DT this past Saturday.

So, we had two DEs, 4 DTs, and a spy.

defensive line depth is a glaring weakness of this team UNTIL it gets fixed with more guys playing quality snaps within the rotation.
 
P-Tizzle said:
how does the 101st ranked penalized team fix this with scheme or lineup? remove all the players who commit penalties? don't play the game with 11 players? Help me understand how being a terribly penalized team isn't a glaring weakness
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They punch you in the face on the sidelines when they come off the field.
And during practices.
And film sessions.

Blue Lot. Dallas.
Be there.

*****.
 
P-Tizzle said:
Great, penalties are a glaring weakness of this team. I'm right.
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This is at least the second "I'm right" you've posted on this thread. This shows what an incredibly immature dolt you are. This is nuance and word smithing, not a criminal trial where the defendant's life is on the line.
As you finish your teen years and progress through your 20's and into your 30's (assuming you get there), you're going to have a lot of fun learning the hard way that always giving in to your selfish desire to be right comes with the cost of broken relationships. I'm sure you'll find some inane and snarky reply to throw at me that twists something so that you can be right again, but I'm more than happy to explain it to you, face to face, in Dallas. In the Blue Lot. In my WalMart vest.
 
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flips said:
Disagree. We had 2nd & 13 from our own 43 after it, and we were getting the ball to start the second half. If we didn't convert, we punt & pin, which we did successfully, and the chances of FSU getting points before the half were pretty low. We nearly got another turnover on FSU's first play of their next series too.

The hold left us 1st & 18 from our own 18 yard line. Would have been crazy for Dawson to get aggressive there up 28-3 IMO. Then we punted, Day got the targeting, and they started on our own 47 yard line. We gave away 1/4 of the field because of penalties. That penalty and Day's penalty were the pivot in the game, not stuff like Mario & Dawson getting conservative or Hetherman playing prevent (not saying this is your claim, just a general point). We ran, succesfully, the first 3 plays of that drive, because of their lack of numbers in the box. Field position probably had a little to do with it too. I guess we could criticize Dawson for going to the well one too many times with the 4th consecutive run, but if Lofton doesn't hold it's 2nd & 8 on our 28, and our whole playbook is available to continue the drive and decisively end the game with points.
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I was having fun with the word scuttling. I don't know which was worse. I don't really care. You can be right on this one. You haven't been a d!ck to me on this thread, so we can just say Go Canes and move on....like grown ups.

Day's penalty was a crock. Technically it was probably targeting, but that penalty sucks. That's my opinion and you can feel free to disagree with me regarding liking targeting penalties. I simply feel like those calls are far too punitive because of the suspension part. I also think that the game in general has shifted too far to benefit the offenses. I don't think we need guys like Jack Tatum sitting back head hunting like he did in the 70's, but I look at the "legal" tackling areas that keep shrinking and wonder how does someone control themselves while moving at 20 mph, trying to tackle a moving target? Throw in that the offensive player can lead with the head and I just don't think it's fair. Again, disagree all you like...I understand the health and safety aspect behind it.
 
supersaiyanshel said:
I'm sorry but our biggest weakness is the Head Coach.

Like his early mentor Butch Davis, he is not much of a game day coach. But also like Butch, his greatest strength is he can build you a roster so much more talented than the opponent it will overcome whatever shortcomings there are as a game day coach.

Not sure we're quite there talent level, but this season (and yes, even last season imo) we have certainly had enough talent to go deep in the playoffs.
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This narrative that Mario is a weak game day coach is getting tired!!! He’s shown us he can have his teams up for big games! TAMU a few years ago, FLORIDA the past 2 seasons, FSU, NOTRE DAME. We’ve been sorry as a program for 20 years. Atleast it’s starting to look better physically. Mario ain’t out there fumbling the ball, dropping TDs, missing tackles, etc.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Glaring is a little dramatic but the only weakness I see is the depth of the defensive line.

I'm not saying the rest of the group are all All-Americas, just if you ask me to point out a weakness, the first (and maybe only?) thing I'm going to do to is, late in games, if we're in a dogfight and it's a back and forth affair, you're really only playing 6 defensive linemen. Bain, Mesidor, Blay, Moten, Scott, and Blount. Is that enough to play championship defense for 75+ snaps against an elite offense? That's really the only thing that I see biting us in the *** from a overall standpoint. Obviously anything can happen in a football game, I'm not saying no other group/player will be a reason we lose a game, but I really see very few weaknesses here.

If we want to reach a little deeper, we're only playing 3 receivers, and none of them are overly big. If we match up with a team who can somewhat limit the run game with their front 7 while being able to play press-man with their corners, do we have kids who can consistently beat that and get open? I'm not sold.

But we have an elite QB, a stable of backs, one of the best OLs in America (if not the best), one of the best DLs in America, fast/aggressive backers, and a tremendous secondary, led by a serial killer coordinator.

The ceiling of the WR group and the depth of the DL are the only things I can think of that can really be called potential weaknesses.

This is a really, really, really good football team.
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What team on the road to the CFP do you think can do both, stop the run and press man? Genuine question if you've watched any teams that pose this threat? I haven't watched many games this season other than Cane's games.
 
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