Georgia NIL leak on Jackson Cantwell

[GeorgiaHurricane]

As someone that follows UGA probably more closely than anyone else here because of connections I can tell you UGA gets o linemen because of Kirby only. Searels is just along for the ride. I can be the o line coach at UGA and they would still pull high 4 and 5 star olinemen. But the Dawg fans mostly hate Searels because the development has taken a backseat and they blame him for it.

 

[TrumpyCane]

For the record, b/c there’s so many narratives out here, & it’s hard to keep up.

Here’s the OL production for Smart as a HC, Cristobal as a HC, Mirabal as an OLC, & Searles as an OLC.

Mario Cristobal: 11
@ Alabama: 5
(Kouandijo-2nd Rd, Kouandijo-4th Rd, Shepherd-7th Rd, Kelly-1st Rd, Robinson-2nd Rd)

@Oregon: 4
(Sewell-1st, Lemieux-6th, Hanson-6th, Crosby-5th)

@Miami: 2
(Lee-7th Rd, Rivers-5th)


Alex Mirabal: 6
@marshall: 1
(Scott - 6th Rd)

@UO: 3
(Sewell-1st, Lemieux-6th, Hanson-6th)

@Miami: 2
(lLee-7th, Rivers-5th)


Kirby Smart: 16
@ UGA:
(McClendon- 5th Rd, Jones-1st Rd, Van Pran-5th Rd, Mims-1st Rd, Wilson-3rd Rd, Fairchild-2nd, Wynn-1st Rd, Gaillard-6th Rd, Kindley-4th Rd, Wilson-1st Rd, Thomas-1st Rd, Hill-6th Rd, Cleveland-3rd Rd, Shafer-6th Rd, Salyer-6th rd, Ratledge-2nd Rd)


Stacey Searels: 15
@LSU: 1
(Whitworth - 2nd Rd)

@UGA p. I: 2
(Adams-6th Rd, Boling-4th Rd)

@VT: 1
(Gibson-7th Rd)

@Miami: 1
(Isadora-5th Rd)

@UNC: 3
(Ezeudu-3rd Rd, McKethan-5th Rd, Heck-4th Rd)

@UGA: 7
(McClendon-5th Rd, Jones-1st Rd, Van Pran-5th Rd, Mims-1st Rd, Wilson-3rd Rd, Fairchild-2nd, Ratledge-2nd)

-The combo of Smart/Searels can claim they’ve produced 24 NFL OL.

-The combo of Cristobal/Mirabal can claim they’ve produced 12 NFL OL.

TrumpyCane read from UGA own site Searles has 14 draft picks in 30 years of coaching

Not exactly impressive especially since he’s been at some big schools

 

[TrumpyCane]

TrumpyCne finds it interesting even UGA fans think he stinks but our fans want to defend him

 

[Rellyrell]

UGA is the best program in the country. You won’t hear me say a bad word about Kirby Smart. He is an elite recruiter and an elite evaluator. That’s why they are the favorite for Jackson Cantwell.

But despite all the advantages of being at the best program in America, Miami had the much better OL last year. We bring almost everybody back, including multiple NFL prospects who will be showing up on your charts. I attribute that to the difference between Mirabal and Searels.

The reason fans believe in Mirabal is simple. He had great OLs at Oregon, came here, inherited garbage, and quickly built a great OL here. I know Searels isn’t capable of doing that, because he already tried and failed miserably.

Like I said, I won’t take away from teaching, but imma keep it about last yrs’ line:

Ward made the line look much better at times, & he also made the line look much worst at times. Also, Martinez broke so many **** tackles or picked his way through holes.

With that said, that’s y I said it’s imperative to change some narratives this coming off season b/c the teaching ain’t translating to the league. So that’s great for us fans, but it ain’t helping our cause. Again, the data is not to **** on Alex or Mario vs. educating this board why or how a 5* recruit as a perceived area of strength from this staff may possibly choose a school like UGA. UGA has quite literally become a pathway for OLmen to NFL.

Now, I still don’t understand why a WR would choose there, but I can rationalize Def & OLmen.

 

[Rellyrell]

TrumpyCane read from UGA own site Searles has 14 draft picks in 30 years of coaching

Not exactly impressive especially since he’s been at some big schools

Searels got into coaching in 1994 starting at App St when they were FCS, & then Cincinnati when they were in Conference USA.

He didn’t begin his coaching resume at the Power level until 2003 at LSU.

Mario began his coaching career Rutgers when Rutgers was in the former P6 of the Big East in 2001.

(No, I do not count GA as coaching).

& Searels is not impressive, but whether he’s impressive or not, he can claim 2 Nat’l Titles as an OL coach, & boast his resume now at UGA. It is what it is.

 

[gogeta4]

Bingo. Not sure how many times I have to say it, but Mario's recruiting of OL here thus far has been eh, at best.

12 total high school OL, only 4 blue chip. The amount of teams (I have posted it prior) who have outrecruited us with regards to blue chip OL is staggering.

And it's not a coincidence the one's at the top constantly produce NFL OL and top end one's. Here is just a comparion since 2023 of Miami to the schools below.

Signed blue chip OL

Georgia: 13
Alabama: 12
Notre Dame: 12
Ohio State: 11
Texas A&M: 11
Michigan: 10
LSU: 10
Miamu: 4

Lets start with recruiting base.

How much 5 star or 4 4 star high blue chip ol are in florida yearly...start there.

In 22- I was on the #36 player b4 i hit an OL....and it was Julian Armella and FSU legacy who seems to be a bust.

In 23- Lucas Simmons was the first ol at #19 in state.(another fsu signee). We lightly recruited dont think we liked him much.
Then you had: https://247sports.com/player/roderick-kearney-46115567/
https://247sports.com/player/payton-kirkland-46098852/ *Big bust who stole money to go to Texas who we passed on.
https://247sports.com/player/gernorris-wilson-46129211/ * Mot a guy we recruited.

Our state on the whole doesnt produce the position that well. Georgia for example produces them at a pretty high clip.

Whats funny is THIS IS THE YEAR WE SHOULD focus in state because there is a TON of them and i doubt there will be a class like this in state for awhile.

*We have to recruit the position nationally..and they have a process of what they like at the position...star ranking be ****. Im 100 % sure they had Ervin ranked higher on their board than a ton of guys who are likely ranked higher than he is

 

[Rellyrell]

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TrumpyCne finds it interesting even UGA fans think he stinks but our fans want to defend him

Ur reading comprehension seems a bit off. No one is defending Searels, in fact it was stated he’s hated. I wish emotions would be taken out of reading objective post that educate vs. assuming it’s meant to defend.

This fan base constantly screams: I can’t believe player A would choose school A over us. So I gave this board a comprehensive sales pitch for a bum that can say look at my resumé as far as getting guys to the league. & absolutely he’s milking the UGA train; Y wouldn’t he? It’s no different than every other unqualified CFO, COO that keeps getting positions, milking the accomplishments of the Fortune 500 company they worked for while they happened to be there.

Welcome to the land of perception.

 

[gogeta4]

Don't mean to belabor, but a bit off on Searels' UNC experience and his unit somehow negatively impacting Sam Howell. Again, happy with Mirabal and could give two ***** about Searels, though laugh about false narratives. No one is saying he's the greatest OL coach and the reason why anyone goes to Georgia, just silly suggesting he sucks or a fortunate good ol boy.

Three years at UNC - beat Miami every year.
- 2019 . . . UNC 28-25, Howell, 274 yds, 2 TDs
- 2020 . . . UNC 62-26 . . . UNC rushed for 554 yards (really) - Carter 308 alone and Williams 236
- 2021 . . . UNC 45-42 . . . UNC rushed for 228 yards . . . Howell 4 TDs and 2 rushing TDs

UNC offense
- 2019 . . . 474 yds per game - 12th nationally, 188 rushing
- 2020 . . . 537 yds per game - UNC record, 235 rushing, 41 pts a game
- 2021 . . . 468 yds per game, 35 pts, 2,763 rushing yds - led ACC second yr in a row
- 5 1,000-yd rushers in 3 seasons

Again dont try to convince me because i aint budging.

Go on the UNC boards and convince the fans that wanted him tf up outta there.

if Luke didnt retire or whatever happened this dude likely wouldve been dropped by unc..and seemed to be a panic hire by Smart. (their fans opinion)

Also go ask the uga fans why majority of them didnt want him, still want him fired, and questioned why Kirby brought him along.

Like telling me UNC beat Miami means exactly what..so did MTSU.

Like you keep talking about Searles like HE DIDNT COACH HERE. lol

HE IS ***. He could beat Miami ten more times he would still be ***.

 

[gogeta4]

One of the complaints against him at Oregon was that while he talked a good game, he and his staff were rather disorganized when it came to roster management. This very thing we are seeing right now. This info has been shared on here by a respected poster a while ago, but many conveniently just ignored it because it didnt fit with their narrative. Here is one for you to go look up. Go check out how many player he had drafted while he was at Oregon, players he signed and/or coached and then also take a look at how many were OL. I promise you, it will be like be very sobering.

There is a poster on here goes by @gogeta4 that stated this when he was hired. I remember the wars i had sometime felt allll alone i went at @Rellyrell @Calinative and others about it.
This as i was driving the Lane Train lol.
That being said i STILL dont question him with OL or TE recruitment and evals because i believe those to be Mario's strong points.

 

[TrumpyCane]

Like I said, I won’t take away from teaching, but imma keep it about last yrs’ line:

Ward made the line look much better at times, & he also made the line look much worst at times. Also, Martinez broke so many **** tackles or picked his way through holes.

With that said, that’s y I said it’s imperative to change some narratives this coming off season b/c the teaching ain’t translating to the league. So that’s great for us fans, but it ain’t helping our cause. Again, the data is not to **** on Alex or Mario vs. educating this board why or how a 5* recruit as a perceived area of strength from this staff may possibly choose a school like UGA. UGA has quite literally become a pathway for OLmen to NFL.

Now, I still don’t understand why a WR would choose there, but I can rationalize Def & OLmen.

Ur reading comprehension seems a bit off. No one is defending Searels, in fact it was stated he’s hated. I wish emotions would be taken out of reading objective post that educate vs. assuming it’s meant to defend.

This fan base constantly screams: I can’t believe player A would choose school A over us. So I gave this board a comprehensive sales pitch for a bum that can say look at my resumé as far as getting guys to the league. & absolutely he’s milking the UGA train; Y wouldn’t he? It’s no different than every other unqualified CFO, COO that keeps getting positions, milking the accomplishments of the Fortune 500 company they worked for while they happened to be there.

Welcome to the land of perception.

Trumpycane wasn’t targeting you but yes there are fans in this thread defending Searles

 

[gogeta4]

A lot of poor evaluation’s on top of the blue chipper amount.

Thats an interesting take considering most of the guys listed are either just going on their first semester on campus or first year. You nostradamus my boy?. i need some parlay bets.

There are two guys thathave transferred out..Antonio Tripp and Frankie Tinilau who was a definite stash project guy that played 1 or 2 years of football in america.

 

[Rellyrell]

There is a poster on here goes by @gogeta4 that stated this when he was hired. I remember the wars i had sometime felt allll alone i went at @Rellyrell @Calinative and others about it.
This as i was driving the Lane Train lol.
That being said i STILL dont question him with OL or TE recruitment and evals because i believe those to be Mario's strong points.

Oh I was on ur neck (pause.) lol

So u know got **** well I was defending like **** for about 1.75 yrs.

 

[Hurracanes]

Thats an interesting take considering most of the guys listed are either just going on their first semester on campus or first year. You nostradamus my boy?. i need some parlay bets.

There are two guys thathave transferred out..Antonio Tripp and Frankie Tinilau who was a definite stash project guy that played 1 or 2 years of football in america.

Why do you think we are paying big $ for this OL class? It isn’t for them to sit the bench, my boy.

 

[Rellyrell]

Trumpycane wasn’t targeting you but yes there are fans in this thread defending Searles

OK; I haven’t seen their work, honestly. I’m simply replying at this point. Lol.

I will never defend Searels, he’s up there w Golden, Diaz, D’No, etc for me. However, when I posted my point, I’m highlighting what these ******** r selling b/c I just had a youngin experience this.

Right now Stacy is riding the UGA gravy train, & I doubted Kirby at 1st, called him Kirby dumb; but, dude has UGA ran like a true plug & play business. In actuality, all u have to do is no disturb the order as a position coach here.

Searels can point to his past products (which r few compared to the length of coaching), but now UGA’s OL NFL class w him attached to it has polished that ****. It’s no different than Al Golden running Freeman’s system, making him look like a guru.

It’s a sales job; I worked for many **** poor mgrs that used what me & my squad did to elevate them to positions that has zero business in so I know how this dog & pony show go. I know the negative recruiting + the over exaggeration of resumès

 

[gogeta4]

The amount of data shared by SO MANY on this board has proven time and time again, that the combo of Mario and Mirabal are not the best coaches/developers in the country of OL. Quite frankly, there are quite a few more who have had much more success.

Again, people need to STOP crowning these guys simply because they are fans of UM. So is everyone of us showing every data point imaginable to refute claims they are the best. I really am perplexed people make all these claims and still hang onto it, yet everything proves the contrary.

glad th

I'm seeing a hodgepodge of "data" comparing NFL talent at different programs with disparate recruiting power (for example, look at Searels' career and the places he's been versus Mirabal).

So let's make it simple and compare apples to apples: Searels was here at Miami. We were terrible. Everyone saw it. Mirabal and Cristobal came here, inherited a terrible room, and we've been a Top 10 OL for the past two seasons.

Conversely, Searels joined Georgia at their absolute national championship peak. Three years later, and their OL stinks. Any honest person will tell you it's their biggest weakness.

If I told you when we hired Mario that our OL would be better than Georgia's in three years, that would be considered homerism. But that's the difference between Mirabal and Good Ol' Boy Searels.

The bolded i dont get..... but they seem to avoid it like the plague........



#deathtouga

 

[gogeta4]

Why do you think we are paying big $ for this OL class? It isn’t for them to sit the bench, my boy.

 

[gogeta4]

As someone that follows UGA probably more closely than anyone else here because of connections I can tell you UGA gets o linemen because of Kirby only. Searels is just along for the ride. I can be the o line coach at UGA and they would still pull high 4 and 5 star olinemen. But the Dawg fans mostly hate Searels because the development has taken a backseat and they blame him for it.

 

[gogeta4]

Oh I was on ur neck (pause.) lol

So u know got **** well I was defending like **** for about 1.75 yrs.

you were but you are a straight shooter. ANd aint scared to state your opinion on it.

I can say Searles sucks but still know uGA has been putting guys in the pros.
Now this particular recruit put development on top of his recruitment or atleast stated it...though guys have went to the league...the better developers are at OU and Miami int his recruitment imo

 

[Calinative]

Why do you think we are paying big $ for this OL class? It isn’t for them to sit the bench, my boy.

How are 3stars misevaluations? They really shouldn't have all that high of a hit rate lol.

You can say the strategy was bad. But saying miseval is strange. I don't think anyone was thinking those types would be even day 3 starters lol.

I believe SJ and Buchanan are guys that can start sooner than later. But most of the other guys were always development prospects.
And while we are going for a loaded OLine class this year It would be very unsurprising if McCoy, Kinsler, and Okunlola were starting Calibur next year. If McCoy settles starting LG job this year, Okunlola and Kinsler won starting OT jobs, and SJ and Buchanan won starting C/RG job next year I think we'd be sitting here saying what a phenomenal job they've done lol. Now if we go out and get an elite guy like Cantwell/Pepe and they win a job, that's even better...

But saying it's a miseval to get like Nino and Plazz is kinda strange to me....

 

[bacane]

Again dont try to convince me because i aint budging.

Go on the UNC boards and convince the fans that wanted him tf up outta there.

if Luke didnt retire or whatever happened this dude likely wouldve been dropped by unc..and seemed to be a panic hire by Smart. (their fans opinion)

Also go ask the uga fans why majority of them didnt want him, still want him fired, and questioned why Kirby brought him along.

Like telling me UNC beat Miami means exactly what..so did MTSU.

Like you keep talking about Searles like HE DIDNT COACH HERE. lol

HE IS ***. He could beat Miami ten more times he would still be ***.

Sounds like you spend too much time slurping what fans say on other boards. ****, they say a lot of things on this board. Deal in performance and the actions or hires of head coaches. Obviously, Kirby could give two ***** about what some UNC or UGA fan in his mother’s basement says on a board.