Georgia NIL leak on Jackson Cantwell

[Alex_Dynamix]

Can I pushback without caping for Searels? I absolutely think Alex Mirabal is a better offensive line coach and thought Searels was terrible when he was here. But his resume holds up sorta fine over time?

UNC was a Top 25 rushing yards per game in 2 of his 3 seasons (I know, really good RBs) and Searels coached two draft picks (one of whom was the son of an NFL OL coach and both of whom are now out of the NFL). This isn't exactly proving that he is elite in any way, but it isn't all that shameful either.

Georgia's offensive line was messy last season, but they were also a Top 25 rushing attack the two years before that and putting guys in the first round is putting guys in the first round. Sure, Mims and Jones are athletic freaks, but we aren't willing to give him any credit for their development? Couldn't we say the same thing about Penei Sewell, who is maybe the most athletic offensive lineman in the entire league?

My point is that if Alex Mirabal is the better offensive line coach and if Cantwell chooses Miami, obviously it won't just be about money. But no recruit is looking at Georgia and thinking they can't get developed by Searels (and I am sure Georgia is offering just as much money).

Penei Sewell wouldve been what he was at 95% of schools, he was an Elite talent not too much molding was needed there & that wasnt some great development feat by Mirabal/Mario sure they probably improved his game from HS but the greatest credit they get for his success was actually convincing him to play for Oregon....what makes you a great Oline coach/developer in my eyes revolves around 2 things..

1. Do you consistently field Good/Excellent Oline Units on gamedays?
2. Do you have a track record of developing lower rated guys /3stars/2stars into good college players/NFL potential ?

 

[MikeyCanez]

UNC fans wanted him fired. I literally posted thread on it. He had Sam Howell running for his life and cost them games. He failed up to uga.


The same way you googled Unc reshing yards per game you should of googled these:
https://forum.dawgnation.com/discus...-searels-in-2025-after-positional-turnover/p2




*^ Based off this one @bacane maybe one of the only one happy whenever dude is hired.

I didnt want to give this too much attention but now im dug in because ol is my specialty.

* One of the reasons i think Searles sucks as an evaluator for sure......I knew this while he was here. Read the second sentence in the 2nd hyperlink above "staff changes" "Our offensive line has all guards and no tackles."

He is a fan of SIZE over everything. He will recruit guys with LEAD FEET regularly. His guys will routinely have issues dealing with getting to second level and dealing with line twist and stunts...because hey ..lead feet.
Hes a vet and knows stuff..ive actually stood close to him coaching literally just me him and like 3 players for an hour. lol

The interior guy that went sort of high in the draft this year went high due to lack of OG talent in the draft and a team reached for him. (Tate Rutledge)..The dolphins traded a bunch of picks to draft the samoan guard instead of waiting for guys like Rutledge who there was a talent gap on.


Man @Memnon ive had enough as well im now on board with #DeathtoUGA cause its apparent we have a consistent amount of hybrid uga fans/sec lovers still on here. I thought @Andrew was the only one left.

Appreciate the deeper look, truly. I guess I was thinking about this in the Cantwell context. We can sell development better than Georgia, but Georgia still has plenty of development to sell and obviously a much longer track record.

Asking honestly here because I truly do not know, behind Sewell, who is Mirabal's best development success? Shane Lemieux?

 

[CANESCANES]

Another "On insert player name here" thread

It prepares us for the imminent disappointment but it doesn't matter, the die has been cast. **** will be thrown everywhere

Name the player that is already ****ed off that just got here

 

[Bender]

he also had a great OL at UNC.

When?

 

[Bender]

If you're only able to coach elite talent, you're not good. If you're not able to make an O-Line hit the snap count, you suck.

Searels was absolute *** here and at UNC. He seemed to be doing ok at UGA recently. Guess what the difference is?

Mirabal runs circles around Searels. He's a top 5 OL coach in college football.

 

[Carlcane]

If you're only able to coach elite talent, you're not good. If you're not able to make an O-Line hit the snap count, you suck.

Searels was absolute *** here and at UNC. He seemed to be doing ok at UGA recently. Guess what the difference is?

Mirabal runs circles around Searels. He's a top 5 OL coach in college football.

just tell Cantwell when in Athens don't accept a car ride from any teammates. those 110 mph rides have consequences

 

[Gocanes1990]

Georgia aint great at developing OL they just recruit and land the very best ones outta high school, simple concept really.

I’m saying no one knows the darn difference. They see Andrew Thomas in the nfl playing great. Mind you when he came out of UGA he was complete ***. But he’s developed in nfl.

In a lot of ways nfl teams are like any other organization looking for talent out of college. Most all white collar companies have target schools, why? Because those target schools filter for the best talent and then companies like Bain or Accenture or Goldman Sachs recruit from those schools. The NFL is no different. They look at the schools who bring in the best talent, have elite s&x, elite body types and draft them. i do think we’re selling their ol play short.

I legit hate UGA. I hate how they got to where they are now. I hate how the NCAA treats them. I am not a glazer. I just seek the truth

 

[JennStrawley’sBabyDaddy]

Wait, UGA doesn't develop OL? Since when? How can anyone with a straight face say this?

NFL DRAFT UGA OL SINCE 2020

2025
2nd Round
3rd Round
3rd Round

2024
1st Round
5th Round

2023
1st Round
5th Round

2022
6th Round
6th Round

2021
3rd Round
6th Round

2020
1st Round
1st Round
5th Round

This is like giving OSU god level WR development when in reality they get the best WR every cycle. If you bring in the top 4 players at the position consistently, then you’ll consistently have high draft picks. It’s not rocket science.

 

[Golsen82]

If you're only able to coach elite talent, you're not good. If you're not able to make an O-Line hit the snap count, you suck.

Searels was absolute *** here and at UNC. He seemed to be doing ok at UGA recently. Guess what the difference is?

Mirabal runs circles around Searels. He's a top 5 OL coach in college football.

Look what he's done with Anez Cooper. That's coaching

 

[RealRussellPumps]

Mirabal ***** on him any day of the week. This isn’t about that. Until Mario wins something worth a ****, he is going to continue losing these battles. Georgia is a serious contender in the SEC every year while Miami continues to be a pretender in the ****** ACC.

I understand the premise of winning making things easier regarding recruits. What I don't understand is how somehow the underachieving thing seems to only apply to us in this way.

Every year, you get stud recruits that go to underachieving programs. A&M yearly has a few guys, USC of recent, South Carolina, UF, Tennesee, Auburn, Oklahoma recently, and even Texas for the better part of the 2010's and early 2020's are all just as if not more mediocre than we have been. All of those teams have been able to bring in highly ranked guys yearly despite their mediocrity. At some point, you have to put blame on the coaching staff for not doing what it takes to cross the finish line. Whether it's Dennis Smith messing things up, us not being willing to pay what it takes, or us prioritizing the wrong guys and not recruiting kids who are interested in us, something needs to be done on the recruiting end of things to get these types of recruits over the finish line. If they're offering under the table bags, why aren't we?

We will not be a serious program under Mario unless we are bringing in elite talent for him every year. Not being able to close on a guy like Cantwell or Pepe even though you're about to have another OL go in the first and likely another guy on Day 2 next year is a failure.

 

[F-MarioCristobal]

Name the player that is already ****ed off that just got here

Bringing up the mom being involved and saying “technically not the same position” = Toney being mad about Keelan Marion.

Immediately thought LB but there’s no one else that just got there before Bonner. “Technically not the same position” rules out RB. Would have to be a WR, LB, or DB. Maybe Brantley’s mom or something.

Toney is the only one I can think of whose mom calls the shots that fits those other descriptions.

 

[305 MOUNTAIN MAN]

Bringing up the mom being involved and saying “technically not the same position” = Toney being mad about Keelan Marion.

Immediately thought LB but there’s no one else that just got there before Bonner. “Technically not the same position” rules out RB. Would have to be a WR, LB, or DB. Maybe Brantley’s mom or something.

Toney is the only one I can think of whose mom calls the shots that fits those other descriptions.

Good thing is MT has nothing to worry about because no one is keeping him off the field this year.

 

[F-MarioCristobal]

Good thing is MT has nothing to worry about because no one is keeping him off the field this year.

I agree with this

 

[STG]

This is like giving OSU god level WR development when in reality they get the best WR every cycle. If you bring in the top 4 players at the position consistently, then you’ll consistently have high draft picks. It’s not rocket science.

Ummm, aren't you supposed to bring in elite level talent? And of course that makes your job easier, but you still have to do it.

Show me the 1st rounders that Mario/Mirabal have produced that were 3 stars/2 stars that became 1st rounders. I'll wait.

 

[STG]

Appreciate the deeper look, truly. I guess I was thinking about this in the Cantwell context. We can sell development better than Georgia, but Georgia still has plenty of development to sell and obviously a much longer track record.

Asking honestly here because I truly do not know, behind Sewell, who is Mirabal's best development success? Shane Lemieux?

Umm, no we can't sell development better than Georgia at OL. Not a single kid gives two ***** what his OL unit ranks at YPR or Sack % at the CFB level. All they care about is getting to the NFL. Just like every other player. And Gerogia smokes us and basically every other school at producing NFL OL talent.

 

[STG]

Georgia aint great at developing OL they just recruit and land the very best ones outta high school, simple concept really.

Cool. So don't pound your chest when Francis goes in the 1st next year about Mario/Mirabal. They clearly also don't get much credit for Sewell either.

 

[Hurracanes]

Georgia aint great at developing OL they just recruit and land the very best ones outta high school, simple concept really.

I get what you’re trying to say but this narrative doesn’t hold any water because the NFL draft is the official scoreboard to monitor player development. Kirby and UGA deserve that credit. On top of that, UGA is a title contender every year? Miami lost this recruitment and the other 5 star OL who’s name escapes me. Plain and simple.

 

[amanan28]

Ummm, aren't you supposed to bring in elite level talent? And of course that makes your job easier, but you still have to do it.

Show me the 1st rounders that Mario/Mirabal have produced that were 3 stars/2 stars that became 1st rounders. I'll wait.

Point taken on your OP but the bottom comment on the 1st rounders that were 3/2 stars is disingenuous in regards to Mario/Mirabal…what coaches can you say consistently produce 1st rounders that were at the minimum 3 stars out of HS..

I do agree they need to do better on bringing top 100 talent in.

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

Cool. So don't pound your chest when Francis goes in the 1st next year about Mario/Mirabal. They clearly also don't get much credit for Sewell either.

i wont be pounding my chest at all for CICI he was the top OL in his class kudos to them for landing him he came to Miami a first round talent... Ill pound my chest for Mario/Mirabal's development skills if Bell/Cooper get drafted high.

 

[janneke99]

Andrew Thomas in 2020.

Adarius Mims and Broderick Jones were good 1st rd picks in 2023 and 2024. Searles is gonna hang his hat on them. But Mims was a traits pick as he was raw as ceviche on biscayne and it wasnt his game film that got him drafted. Both guys were 6'5 310+ and ran **** near as fast as Restrepo did.

Thank you totally forgot about Andrew Thomas