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George Karlaftis Miami legacy is a potential 5 Star recruit?

MotoSniper said:
I say this as a dude that graduated from a Top 7 institution...employers DGAF where you graduated from. They just care if you can get the job done, and that you are not going to miss work for stupid crap. Educational institution makes for a nice bullet on the resume and hopefully, some alumni connections after graduation.
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Not true for some majors or some schools devil dog.
For example mba’s and law degrees from Ivey league schools have 100% employment immediately after graduation.
Any UM law grads on here? They have a huge post grad employment rate.
I know 2 guys that had a rough time after graduating from St Thomas Law.
I worked as a UPS driver for a while and the ammount of drivers with bachelor’s degrees was pretty eye opening and I’m sure non of them wanted to be a UPS driver. (No dissing on ups’ers it’s a tough job that pays well)
Kid wants to guarantee employment if football doesn’t work out. There is also a lot of business opportunities and networking if you go to a top engineering program. It’s a form of insider trading if you will. Some of the top engineering programs perform research for the government and private corporations and higher the engineers that perform some of the research. If they don’t higher you at least you know what to invest in.

However he should be a fugging cane and wtf is a boilermaker?
 
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canefrank said:
I do remember us discussing him early this year and his deceased dad played at the U. What I did NOT know is that he is very good. I had him for a 3 Star player in my mind. For 247 openly to state that he might be moving up to 5 Stars and is the the Alpha dog at the Opening where the top recruits are at. Its impressive, I could care less if the kid committed to Purdue, FIU or Harvard. Might be time to re-look at him with our new DL coach. Our school of engineering is one of the best in the nation plus he is a legacy .... should be easier than most recruiting battles!!!
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It is no where near as good as Purdues. Michigan is the most likely choice for him to flip too because they are always in the top 5 for engineering programs.
 
MotoSniper said:
I say this as a dude that graduated from a Top 7 institution...employers DGAF where you graduated from. They just care if you can get the job done, and that you are not going to miss work for stupid crap. Educational institution makes for a nice bullet on the resume and hopefully, some alumni connections after graduation.
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That is 100% wrong. That may be the case for your particular major, but is far from the truth in many other majors. I know for a 100% fact that the VAST majority of the straight out of college guys that work in front office investment banking, private equity, etc. at the big firms in NYC are ivy guys. They will literally not even look at resumes from schools like UGA, FSU, etc. I would say of the new entries each year 75% are from the prestigious Ivies or foreign elite schools like oxford/cambridge. Then 20% are the less prestigious ivies(ie. Cornell) and schools like Stanford, Duke, etc. The remaining spots are taken by schools like UM, Notre Dame, etc. Anyone below that has almost 0% chance of getting the job unless they have some sort of insane resume of internships.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
That is 100% wrong. That may be the case for your particular major, but is far from the truth in many other majors. I know for a 100% fact that the VAST majority of the straight out of college guys that work in front office investment banking, private equity, etc. at the big firms in NYC are ivy guys. They will literally not even look at resumes from schools like UGA, FSU, etc. I would say of the new entries each year 75% are from the prestigious Ivies or foreign elite schools like oxford/cambridge. Then 20% are the less prestigious ivies(ie. Cornell) and schools like Stanford, Duke, etc. The remaining spots are taken by schools like UM, Notre Dame, etc. Anyone below that has almost 0% chance of getting the job unless they have some sort of insane resume of internships.
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I stand corrected.
 
MotoSniper said:
I guess it's very relevant in engineering...in the world of medicine, employers care much less about institution as long as it's accredited and you have an active state license without derogatory information. I never had difficulty finding work after med school so, I thought it was more my work history (military service) that made me stand out vice the fact that I went to Duke.
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Medical and IT are just a different animal as far demand. It doesn't matter where you live there are always great jobs within driving distance. Engineering firms are a little more spread out but it's still a high demand job.
 
1. I hate how it can play out, but often the school matters. Even if the school really doesn't matter in terms of doing the job, the name too often matters when making the decisions of who to interview, who to hire, and how your market your workforce. The same is increasingly true for degrees. You have a lot of jobs that require an MBA to get the job, but don't require an MBA to actually do the job.

2. I credit this kid. Seems he made a decision and is sticking to it, even though everybody is now on him. He is exactly what we say we want when a recruit is committed to us and then goes national.

3. It is pretty ironic, really. When we have a kid that blows up and sticks, we praise "loyalty". When he leaves, we talk about how over-rated he was and the ever present "bags" conspiracy. When we eyeball a committed recruit at another school, we talk about how easy he would be to flip and the loyalty and bags considerations seem to disappear.
 
Yep.

And Matt Walters was a "math nerd" who graduated in mechanical engineering while starting at DT (a bit undersized) on the best Miami team ever.

CashMoneyCane said:
Jonathan Vilma was a finance major and speaks three languages.

Your post might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
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MotoSniper said:
I stand corrected.
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I did see in your later post you also stated that job performance is king and that your university doesn't matter much after you spent a few years in the work force. That I agree with. Basically in the business world you can't even apply for certain jobs unless you went to an elite university. However, after that initial bump performance is everything. Some of the Ivy guys will still break your balls for not going to an Ivy, but as far as getting further in the field your performance is everything. However, it is a lot easier to get a high level position at Goldman after graduating from Harvard and working an entry level position at JP Morgan then trying to apply for a position at Goldman after working at Joes Investment firm after your graduated from FSU. However, some jobs actually still do care about your degree even after you spent a few years in the work force. A lot of private equity positions actually request your SAT and ACT score(and this is for guys who have already been out of college for 4+ years).
 
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MotoSniper said:
I say this as a dude that graduated from a Top 7 institution...employers DGAF where you graduated from. They just care if you can get the job done, and that you are not going to miss work for stupid crap. Educational institution makes for a nice bullet on the resume and hopefully, some alumni connections after graduation.
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Did you do med school after service or HPSP?
 
Pickle Richt said:
Did you do med school after service or HPSP?
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I did it after my service. I was a mustang; enlisted out of HS and was a grunt/sniper. Went to college the first time around and became an Officer. I was an infantry officer, then reconnaissance officer, then went spec ops for the latter part of my career. Got blown up and beat up a couple of times over seas and had to retire medically at 15 years of service. Decided to go back to school and set my sights on medicine.

Side note: if any of you vets are thinking about going back to school or pursuing post graduate programs, the VA through Chapter 31 Voc Rehab program will pay for all of your school to include tuition, fees, licenses, supplies, books, etc. at an uncapped dollar amount. They paid for my med school in its entirety. Just need to be service connected for at least 1 condition at a rate of 10% or higher.
 
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MotoSniper said:
I did it after my service. I was a mustang; enlisted out of HS and was a grunt/sniper. Went to college the first time around and became an Officer. I was an infantry officer, then reconnaissance officer, then went spec ops for the latter part of my career. Got blown up and beat up a couple of times over seas and had to retire medically at 15 years of service. Decided to go back to school and set my sights on medicine.

Side note: if any of you vets are thinking about going back to school or pursuing post graduate programs, the VA through Chapter 31 Voc Rehab program will pay for all of your school to include tuition, fees, licenses, supplies, books, etc. at an uncapped dollar amount. They paid for my med school in it's entirety. Just need to be service connected for at least 1 condition at a rate of 10% or higher.
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Awesome, very smart approach. Thank you for your sacrifice and service.
 
jkaz1 said:
Yep.

And Matt Walters was a "math nerd" who graduated in mechanical engineering while starting at DT (a bit undersized) on the best Miami team ever.
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And one of the OL's on the 2001 team, I think it was Joaquin, won the Draddy award, aka the academic Heisman.

The notion that a guy can't play because he's smart is absurdly asinine.
 
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He visited for Paradise last year.

From what I remember I just don't think he liked it or thought it was a good fit. He committed to Purdue shortly after.

sure you can try recruiting him again, but I don't see what would chnge. Miami isn't for everyone, even if you're a legacy
 
Lots of misguided stuff on this thread.

I went to UM with Matt Karlaftis. He was a track guy, he threw the javelin (George does shotput). Until recently, Matt still had a UM Top 5 all-time javelin record. He walked on to the football team later. Most of you are unaware that Matt was seriously hurt playing football, which pretty much ended his athletic career, thus he went on to become an academic.

Matt was in one of the fraternities in the Panhellenic Building, which is where my fraternity was located. One of my best friends (and my fraternity brother) was on the track team with Matt as well, so I met him quite a bit over a few undergrad years.

A couple of things to point out. First, the "engineering school" thing is not just about a first job. Matt got his PhD in Engineering at Purdue, so, yes, the quality of the school matters if you have aspirations towards a doctoral-level degree and becoming an academic, as Matt was. Many people are dumping on George's choice simply because he is a talented football player, without thinking about why the kid is not just counting on football for a job, since Matt was badly injured while playing football (it was a major head injury which gave Matt a permanent scar).

Second, George's mother also graduated from Purdue, which is where his parents met. Given what has happened, it is understandable that he might want to stay close to his family.

Finally, George did not "grow up" in West Lafayette, though his mother did. George grew up in Athens, Greece. The family only moved to West Lafayette a few years ago.

Having said all of that, I hope that Miami continues to recruit George until National Signing Day. I would love to see him join the Miami Family and walk in his father's footsteps. I respect that he has his father's athletic ability, but he just might follow his academic path. I wish him and his family nothing but the best, and I really hope he changes his mind and comes to UM.


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I don't care how good of an engineering program they have

Any kid that goes to ******* Purdue for football is a god **** dummy
 
MotoSniper said:
I did it after my service. I was a mustang; enlisted out of HS and was a grunt/sniper. Went to college the first time around and became an Officer. I was an infantry officer, then reconnaissance officer, then went spec ops for the latter part of my career. Got blown up and beat up a couple of times over seas and had to retire medically at 15 years of service. Decided to go back to school and set my sights on medicine.

Side note: if any of you vets are thinking about going back to school or pursuing post graduate programs, the VA through Chapter 31 Voc Rehab program will pay for all of your school to include tuition, fees, licenses, supplies, books, etc. at an uncapped dollar amount. They paid for my med school in its entirety. Just need to be service connected for at least 1 condition at a rate of 10% or higher.
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Right on man thank you for your service
 
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