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oso4lyf said:
I don't understand this

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I understand that fans can be homers and overrate their teams but this is beyond fandom, this is delusional. What is the logic behind thinking they can win any of these games besides “we’re underrated and everyone else is overrated”. They will be the underdog against us (in their own stadium) and pretty much every team this guy listed. What makes him think they will all of the sudden be able to beat Kentucky when they’ve owned the Gator the last few years? Which of the LSU/Ole Miss combination do they think they have a chance against? They couldn’t beat FSU with Tate Rodemaker at quarterback but now it will be a walk in the park with DJU? They need to concern themselves with beating UCF and Mississippi State to try to go 3-9.
 
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DTP said:
I understand that fans can be homers and overrate their teams but this is beyond fandom, this is delusional. What is the logic behind thinking they can win any of these games besides “we’re underrated and everyone else is overrated”. They will be the underdog against us (in their own stadium) and pretty much every team this guy listed. What makes him think they will all of the sudden be able to beat Kentucky when they’ve owned the Gator the last few years? Which of the LSU/Ole Miss combination do they think they have a chance against? They couldn’t beat FSU with Tate Rodemaker at quarterback but now it will be a walk in the park with DJU? They need to concern themselves with beating UCF and Mississippi State to try to go 3-9.
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Trying to think as fairly as possible:

1) They're in Year 2 of the Mertz era, and they probably think that there will be a big jump in offensive cohesiveness in that second year

2) It's not a weak team devoid of talent. Despite recruiting misfires, they field a squad that on paper is stronger than last years Seminoles. Technically their average player composite ranking is better at defensive tackle, linebacker, and corner. Overall for the entire team though, it's weaker than Miami's (.8935 average for the Gators vs .9006 for the Canes)

That said, this is not a powerful Florida squad. It's not as strong as the 2019 squad that faced Miami in Week 1 (.8935 average for 2024 vs .8992), and Miami is far stronger now than in 2019 (.9006 for 2024 vs .8802 in 2019). Florida's only significant position advantage in talent in the composite average is cornerback (.9172 Gators vs .8986 Miami). Technically they also have one at quarterback, but Lagway is dragging their average up and he's unlikely to play.
 
GojiraCane said:
Trying to think as fairly as possible:

1) They're in Year 2 of the Mertz era, and they probably think that there will be a big jump in offensive cohesiveness in that second year

2) It's not a weak team devoid of talent. Despite recruiting misfires, they field a squad that on paper is stronger than last years Seminoles. Technically their average player composite ranking is better at defensive tackle, linebacker, and corner. Overall for the entire team though, it's weaker than Miami's (.8935 average for the Gators vs .9006 for the Canes)

That said, this is not a powerful Florida squad. It's not as strong as the 2019 squad that faced Miami in Week 1 (.8935 average for 2024 vs .8992), and Miami is far stronger now than in 2019 (.9006 for 2024 vs .8802 in 2019). Florida's only significant position advantage in talent in the composite average is cornerback (.9172 Gators vs .8986 Miami). Technically they also have one at quarterback, but Lagway is dragging their average up and he's unlikely to play.
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Yeah it’s hard to use composite rankings because 5 star freshmen who might not even play can skew the rankings and 3 star players who become stars (Restrepo) skew them the opposite direction.

How much of UF’s cornerback advantage is due to Jason Marshall and Cormani McClain? Marshall has been very average and we all know about Cormani. Neither player is as good as Darryl Porter Jr.
 
GojiraCane said:
Trying to think as fairly as possible:

1) They're in Year 2 of the Mertz era, and they probably think that there will be a big jump in offensive cohesiveness in that second year

2) It's not a weak team devoid of talent. Despite recruiting misfires, they field a squad that on paper is stronger than last years Seminoles. Technically their average player composite ranking is better at defensive tackle, linebacker, and corner. Overall for the entire team though, it's weaker than Miami's (.8935 average for the Gators vs .9006 for the Canes)

That said, this is not a powerful Florida squad. It's not as strong as the 2019 squad that faced Miami in Week 1 (.8935 average for 2024 vs .8992), and Miami is far stronger now than in 2019 (.9006 for 2024 vs .8802 in 2019). Florida's only significant position advantage in talent in the composite average is cornerback (.9172 Gators vs .8986 Miami). Technically they also have one at quarterback, but Lagway is dragging their average up and he's unlikely to play.
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DTP said:
Yeah it’s hard to use composite rankings because 5 star freshmen who might not even play can skew the rankings and 3 star players who become stars (Restrepo) skew them the opposite direction.

How much of UF’s cornerback advantage is due to Jason Marshall and Cormani McClain? Marshall has been very average and we all know about Cormani. Neither player is as good as Darryl Porter Jr.
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These are both really good posts. Cheers.
 
DTP said:
Yeah it’s hard to use composite rankings because 5 star freshmen who might not even play can skew the rankings and 3 star players who become stars (Restrepo) skew them the opposite direction.

How much of UF’s cornerback advantage is due to Jason Marshall and Cormani McClain? Marshall has been very average and we all know about Cormani. Neither player is as good as Darryl Porter Jr.
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Actually, I didn't include McClain there. It's Jason Marshall and JaKeem Jackson that are throwing the average up:

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On the opposite end of the spectrum we have a huge composite advantage at wide receiver:

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Although you can make the argument that Trader, Carr, and Robison are weighting the average unnecessarily, given that the three of them will likely see only limited action in Game 1 (if at all).
 
GojiraCane said:
Actually, I didn't include McClain there. It's Jason Marshall and JaKeem Jackson that are throwing the average up:

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On the opposite end of the spectrum we have a huge composite advantage at wide receiver:

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Although you can make the argument that Trader, Carr, and Robison are weighting the average unnecessarily, given that the three of them will likely see only limited action in Game 1 (if at all).
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I'm hoping they see plenty of action as it likely means we crushing them.
 
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SWFLSWAGG17 said:
All those rankings are fun to talk about. This below is what matters

We are strong AF on the OL and DL
They are not
Result = WE FUCCIN
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We match up really well where it counts. They have zero pass rush. Our offensive line should give Cam plenty of time to pass even if we can’t get the running game going. Defensively, our ends are the strongest position on our team and they can’t pass block to save Mertz’s life.
 
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