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This might be the most beta comment I've ever seen in a recruitment thread... "she let me buy her a drink and danced with me before she went home with another guy, so that's a win, right?"

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gordonsolie said:
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DuvalGaytor is such a clueless moron.

He makes constant apples-to-oranges comparisons. Such as "FIU when Mario took over" vs. "FIU when Butch took over". Or "La-La before Gaypier" vs. "La-La with Gaypier".

Let's review, shall we...

FIU when Mario took over. Technically, FIU won 15 games in 5 years under Don Strock. Unfortunately, 10 of those victories were vacated.
---2002 - Don Strock - Independent - 5-6
---2003 - Don Strock - Independent - 2-10 (all wins vacated)
---2004 - Don Strock - Independent - 3-7 (all wins vacated)
---2005 - Don Strock - Sun Belt - 5-6 (all wins vacated)
---2006 - Don Strock - Sun Belt - 0-12 (no wins to vacate)

So Mario took over an FIU program that was winless in the season prior, that was only in existence for 5 years, and only in a conference for 2 years. Never once qualified for a bowl game, the BEST years were each 5-6 seasons.

And then Mario took them to first place in the conference and two bowl games. IN ADDITION TO getting FIU into a BETTER conference, Conference USA. Seems pretty impressive, in spite of the 27-47 record.

As for what Butch inherited at FIU, it might not have been the Taj Mahal, but he took over a team that was in Conference USA, that had an actual bowl game history, and had no looming NCAA sanctions. Where Butch went 23-21. So, you know, who am I to say, but it certainly seems like Mario did pretty well given the circumstances.

Footnote: In the 3 years prior to Mario taking over Oregon, the Ducks went 20-18, with one of the two preceding coaches being fired. Mario proceeded to go 35-12 in four years, with 2 Pac-12 championships and 4 bowl appearances.

Now let's compare Louisiana-Lafayette pre-Gaypier and with-Gaypier.
---2011 - Mark Hudspeth - Sun Belt - 9-4 (8 wins vacated)
---2012 - Mark Hudspeth - Sun Belt - 9-4 (4 wins vacated)
---2013 - Mark Hudspeth - Sun Belt - 9-4 (8 wins vacated)
---2014 - Mark Hudspeth - Sun Belt - 9-4 (2 wins vacated)
---2015 - Mark Hudspeth - Sun Belt - 4-8
---2016 - Mark Hudspeth - Sun Belt - 6-7
---2017 - Mark Hudspeth - Sun Belt - 5-7

Now, yes, Hudspeth got La-La into some hot water, but it was well over by the time Gaypier took over. Still, Hudspeth is a winner, he had a 66-21 record at North Alabama. La-La was nowhere near as bad (when Gaypier took over) as FIU was when Mario took over.

So Hudspeth went 51-38 for a .573 winning rate while Billy went 40-12 for a .769 winning rate. Not exactly some crazy turnaround.
 
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cway313 said:
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What kind of nonsense is this?

"Frontloading" actually IS NIL. Rashada will be paid NIL money WHILE HE IS IN HIGH SCHOOL, which is legal in California.

I guess "frontloading" is the new Gaytor myth. You know, because they are such fine, upstanding citizens that they don't even BEGIN to pay NIL money until after a recruit has been enrolled at Florida for at least one semester.

Oh, and IGNORE everything they told you about the no-show Shands job and Hogtown housing they offered to Harold Perkins' mother. That's not "NIL" or "frontloading", that's just good old-fashioned "cheating".
 
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