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No_Fly_Zone said:
It is a fantastic point. UiF and Forfeit State fans really do enjoy looking down their noses at us and pointing out that so many UM fans didn't attend UM. They'll claim we are rude, aggressive, and straight up violent during tailgates and games -- much more so than they are -- because of the "unsophisticated" nature of our "thuggish" fanbase. I've even had some UiF fans and Forfeit State fans tell me people shouldn't be allowed to root for a college football team if you didn't attend that school (which, taken to its logical extreme means you can't be a college football fan unless you attend a college). I can't prove it, but I would bet a lot of that is just straight code language, elitism, and bigotry.

As you point out, it begs the question why, if they are the more educated and erudite fanbase, with a closer tie to their fellow alumni, they seem to exhibit more vitriol and hate. But they do seem to prove that you can absolutely be well-educated and yet remain totally classless.
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I love everything about your post. I can't tell you how many times, over the past 35+ years, I have realized that so much of the "anti-Miami-hatred" is based on either the ethnicity of our players or Dade County generally.

I also enjoy it when a rival fan tries to challenge whether I am a UM alum, and I can tell them that I have three degrees from UM. Conversation-ender.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
I would add one other dimension.

I started UM in the 1980s. Nobody would deny that Miami, as a city, was heavily transformed from the 1980s onward, from Mariel to wide-scale Caribbean/South American/Central American immigration, to Eastern European and Canadian ex-pats, to New Yorkers retiring to cheaper real estate. Lots of "newer" South Floridians adopted UM for a variety of reasons, and so a chunk of our fanbase might not have a natural inclination to be as kind-and-gentle with the Hurricane players who are fellow UM classmates or UM alums.

But the "state school" rivals just looooove to give us a hard time and claim that THEIR fanbases are much more concentrated with actual graduates of their institutions. Which, of course, begs the question as to why they seem to be LESS able to exhibit human decency towards their fellow classmates/alums, at least when compared to the "heathen" Miami fans...

Pathetic. I can't prove that every one of those Gaytor fans who are wishing "burning alive" on their baseball team are UiF alums...but I'd be willing to bet that some are. You just don't often see a bunch of NON-alums following a COLLEGE baseball team with that level of passion and/or hatred.
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No_Fly_Zone said:
It is a fantastic point. UiF and Forfeit State fans really do enjoy looking down their noses at us and pointing out that so many UM fans didn't attend UM. They'll claim we are rude, aggressive, and straight up violent during tailgates and games -- much more so than they are -- because of the "unsophisticated" nature of our "thuggish" fanbase. I've even had some UiF fans and Forfeit State fans tell me people shouldn't be allowed to root for a college football team if you didn't attend that school (which, taken to its logical extreme means you can't be a college football fan unless you attend a college). I can't prove it, but I would bet a lot of that is just straight code language, elitism, and bigotry.

As you point out, it begs the question why, if they are the more educated and erudite fanbase, with a closer tie to their fellow alumni, they seem to exhibit more vitriol and hate. But they do seem to prove that you can absolutely be well-educated and yet remain totally classless.
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Like when FSU fans, alums, whatever, used to (still do?) sing row your boat to our baseball team when we would play up there. Like school on Sunday, no class.
 
wspcane said:
Like when FSU fans, alums, whatever, used to (still do?) sing row your boat to our baseball team when we would play up there. Like school on Sunday, no class.
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Good lord, I hate to admit it, but I don't even get the joke here. Is it a Mariel joke? I'm trying to remember if I've ever heard that one, but I don't know that I ever drove to Tally for baseball. Football and hoops, yes. And I've driven to Hogtown for football, hoops, and baseball. UCF and USF, obviously, for all 3. But Tally is a bit far for a baseball trip.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I love everything about your post. I can't tell you how many times, over the past 35+ years, I have realized that so much of the "anti-Miami-hatred" is based on either the ethnicity of our players or Dade County generally.

I also enjoy it when a rival fan tries to challenge whether I am a UM alum, and I can tell them that I have three degrees from UM. Conversation-ender.
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We all know what “thug” really means.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Good lord, I hate to admit it, but I don't even get the joke here. Is it a Mariel joke? I'm trying to remember if I've ever heard that one, but I don't know that I ever drove to Tally for baseball. Football and hoops, yes. And I've driven to Hogtown for football, hoops, and baseball. UCF and USF, obviously, for all 3. But Tally is a bit far for a baseball trip.
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Yes, it was meant to target and stereotype our Cuban players and fan base. I’m sure they have no idea who was Cuban vs literally every other Latin American nationality too. I have never seen a game there. There were that many singing it that I could clearly hear it on tv, many times.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I would add one other dimension.

I started UM in the 1980s. Nobody would deny that Miami, as a city, was heavily transformed from the 1980s onward, from Mariel to wide-scale Caribbean/South American/Central American immigration, to Eastern European and Canadian ex-pats, to New Yorkers retiring to cheaper real estate. Lots of "newer" South Floridians adopted UM for a variety of reasons, and so a chunk of our fanbase might not have a natural inclination to be as kind-and-gentle with the Hurricane players who are fellow UM classmates or UM alums.

But the "state school" rivals just looooove to give us a hard time and claim that THEIR fanbases are much more concentrated with actual graduates of their institutions. Which, of course, begs the question as to why they seem to be LESS able to exhibit human decency towards their fellow classmates/alums, at least when compared to the "heathen" Miami fans...

Pathetic. I can't prove that every one of those Gaytor fans who are wishing "burning alive" on their baseball team are UiF alums...but I'd be willing to bet that some are. You just don't often see a bunch of NON-alums following a COLLEGE baseball team with that level of passion and/or hatred.
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Well, I’ve traveled all over Florida. And if being a graduate is a prerequisite to being a fan then I don’t know why they’re bragging.
 
I was looking for events this weekend in San Antonio for their "Fiesta" and came across this 😆 🤣 😂

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Unranked gator baseball loses 3-0 to Arkansas. They are 2-6 in their last 8 games and drop to 3-8 in the SEC.

Is that good? Asking for a landlocked cow town.

Oh, they still have series left against Arkansas (ranked #2), FSU (#20), Vanderbilt (#16), Tennessee (#1), Kentucky. MISS ST, Missouri and South Carolina.

Ngmi bump
 
No_Fly_Zone said:
You are spot on and 100% correct. It is simultaneously an absurdly over-the-top and response, yet still (somehow) in the regular playbook of **** fanbase responses. It's just weird.

The only insight I can provide on the bolded part is that they are in my all-time top 3 worst fanbases in all of college football (right there with rioting, pedophilia apologists of Pedo State and the battery flinging, illiterate hill-folk of WVU). UM football fans get (rightly) **** on for a variety of reasons, but our worst fans are nowhere near the depths of depravity, misery, and self-delusion as the average UiF fan.
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PSU is to this day the oddest college place I’ve ever been. I felt so out of place. It was super creepy. It had a Stepford Wives type vibe. **** was unholy. Never want to go back.

UF fans take the cake though
 
gator baseball loses 3-0 to Arkansas. They are 2-6 in their last 8 games and drop to 3-8 in the SEC.

Is that good? Asking for a landlocked cow town.

Oh, they still have series left against Arkansas (ranked #2), FSU (#20), Vanderbilt (#16), Tennessee (#1), Kentucky. MISS ST, Missouri and South Carolina.
 
Cryptical Envelopment said:
Unranked gator baseball loses 3-0 to Arkansas. They are 2-6 in their last 8 games and drop to 3-8 in the SEC.

Is that good? Asking for a landlocked cow town.

Oh, they still have series left against Arkansas (ranked #2), FSU (#20), Vanderbilt (#16), Tennessee (#1), Kentucky. MISS ST, Missouri and South Carolina.

Ngmi bump
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We will find out this weekend whether Miami has a real team or not against Virginia.
 
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TOcane said:
Come on now, that’s like saying we beat Duke, but you know Duke is a better basketball team atm.
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That comparison makes no sense. They unfortunately have beaten us head to head quite a bit of late.

Anyway enough about UF

Big weekend this weekend. I digress
 
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