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Future Dts Development

DL has been great considering we don't have a guy like Willis who dominates inside. Not to mention the fact we have didn't feel like starting our best players for half the season and when we do Baker sends them out into coverage. Yes, let's have Greg cover a guy 30 yards downfield but wait let's also send a 30 yard delayed SS blitz. Genius.
 
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Redstate12 said:
I think we have 3 future studs with HARRISON-HUNTE Blisset and Miller. 4 possibly with Holley. Is Todd Stroud the right man to develop them? Falcons have struggled this Season and will probably clean house after season. Injuries on defense have made Jess Simpson job difficult. Falcons pass rush has regressed dramatically. If Simpson is available should we bring him back? I thought he did a great job at developing inside pass rush last season.
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Yes.
 
Calvin said:
Coach stroud is doing a real solid job, its obvious that bethel and ford were never going to be the best pass rushing d-tackles but they definitely have done a real good job against the run. We need the linebackers to start cleaning up more. Stopping the run is the main thing and coach recruits like coach stroud. To many people are to quick to write off a good coach, you can see the coach stroud affect, while people are talking about the 3 freshmen, dont forget, i highly doubt they'll be beating out jordan miller while he's here, he's more proof of coach strouds work. I like how we were able to build our d-tackle room back up some, being able to redshirt those guys, and if health holds up, being able to have ford, nesta and miller in front of them will help them develop even more. We got alot of d-linemen redshirting which is goodd to see, i believe the decision has been made to redshirt Jahfari harvey, we already got cam williams redshirting, rousseau redshirted by default which i was always glad he had too. This program will not get where it should be reallying on to many freshmen.

When your nickname is "noodles" why you not redshirting, he should actually still redshirt this year if he could and if he knew what was best for em. But the selfish minded will be allowed to keep playing so they hurry up and graduate and be gone. One things for certain, coach diaz is doing a real good job in the amount of redshirts we have in the whole this year,on both sides of the ball.

Another coach that was a good hire has been taylor stubblefield, you can see the technical development of our wideouts, and they still do a solid job of blocking, anytime receivers dont get called for holding, that's a good sign. The runningbacks coach has done a solid job as well, so ****inson, stubblefiel and stroud were above average hires, the jury is still out on coach barry, his oc not helping em that's for sure, but i can see the progression, coach patake is definitely the weak link along with the coordinators, but i do appreciate coach bakers honesty, he knows he has to get better. He's actually not that aggressive and needs to stop being that obvious on defense! He definitely doesnt force qb's to play from their weaknesses!
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Alright, you do know his nick name is noodles because he’s shifty and noodles around defenders. He’s got a lot of wiggle hence noodles not because he’s skinny And not ready
 
AHURT12 said:
Maybe it's because this year unlike the last few years the starting DT's are not getting as much penetration as the years before like the year Willis had and the year Norton and the other d tackle who played next to him had.
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No it’s exactly how LCE is saying. Baker has been using 3 man rushes and one of our best DE’s (garvin) has been on spy the first half of the season. That’s why the TFL are down. So that’s on baker, not stroud. It also highlights banda’s inability to teach our strong safeties how to cover underneath. IMO

Willis and norton and“ that other guy” rj had big numbers because our DE’s were actually rushing the quarterback.
 
Bubbacane10 said:
No it’s exactly how LCE is saying. Baker has been using 3 man rushes and one of our best DE’s (garvin) has been on spy the first half of the season. That’s why the TFL are down. So that’s on baker, not stroud. It also highlights banda’s inability to teach our strong safeties how to cover underneath. IMO

Willis and norton and“ that other guy” rj had big numbers because our DE’s were actually rushing the quarterback.
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He has used 3 man rushes in 3rd in long situations. Garvin spies to allow for more linebackers in man and zone coverage. Safeties aren't covering underneath that's what you have linebackers for. So Banda could teach the previous two safeties who played here and went to the nfl but he cant teach the current group??? R.J and Willis were in the backfield alot more than the current group. Garvins freshman year was probably the best defensive line we've had since he's been here.
 
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AHURT12 said:
He has used 3 man rushes in 3rd in long situations. Garvin spies to allow for more linebackers in man and zone coverage. Safeties aren't covering underneath that's what you have linebackers for. So Banda could teach the previous two safeties who played here and went to the nfl but he cant teach the current group??? R.J and Willis were in the backfield alot more than the current group. Garvins freshman year was probably the best defensive line we've had since he's been here.
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Yes, but Baker has used it more than just third and long situations that's the problem and it hasn't worked out well. We're one of the worst teams defensively on third down. How did our linebackers do in coverage? 3rd and 17 against UNC? Our linebackers are too slow to cover in that situation. Linebackers drop straight back and open to the wideouts and track the TE, but news flash our Linebackers can't cover TE's or wideouts and usually the strong safety covers the curl flat underneath. You're giving Banda way too much credit for JJ and Redwine. Neither of them are in the NFL because of Ephraim Banda. I agree with you there garvin had a better D-Line his freshman year. He also had a better defensive coordinator
 
Liberty City El said:
We've had the best Run Defense we've had in the Diaz era this season...

And with the emergence of Rousseau, Ford, Nesta & Miller, I don't see how yall are so critical of Stroud. The DLine has been the strongest unit on our team this season.

We have 25 sacks & 51TFL's on the season, that's pretty **** good. Plus you have to factor in how much play calling affects the performance of the DL's, I mean Baker has had our most dynamic pass rushers dropping back in coverage on multiple plays & we for whatever reason are always going with 3-man fronts on 3rd down only rushing 3.

I do agree that Simpson is a much better DL coach than Stroud, I'm not arguing that, I'm just saying on Defense they're not the issue this season.

The heat needs to be on Banda, Baker, Patke & Rumph more so than Stroud IMO.
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And it’s legal to hold against our DL lol
 
Bubbacane10 said:
Yes, but Baker has used it more than just third and long situations that's the problem and it hasn't worked out well. We're one of the worst teams defensively on third down. How did our linebackers do in coverage? 3rd and 17 against UNC? Our linebackers are too slow to cover in that situation. Linebackers drop straight back and open to the wideouts and track the TE, but news flash our Linebackers can't cover TE's or wideouts and usually the strong safety covers the curl flat underneath. You're giving Banda way too much credit for JJ and Redwine. Neither of them are in the NFL because of Ephraim Banda. I agree with you there garvin had a better D-Line his freshman year. He also had a better defensive coordinator
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One blown coverage against UNC by a safety doesn't mean it doesn't work well. Majority of teams drop 8 in coverage on 3rd and long. Do you remember Redwine as a freshman at corner? He looked lost. You have to give the position coach alot of credit for production if you cant do that your basically saying it's all the players ability when he does great but the coaches fault when screws up and you cant have it both ways
 
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AHURT12 said:
One blown coverage against UNC by a safety doesn't mean it doesn't work well. Majority of teams drop 8 in coverage on 3rd and long. Do you remember Redwine as a freshman at corner? He looked lost. You have to give the position alot of credit for production if you cant do that your basically saying it's all the players ability when he does great but the coaches fault when screws up and you cant have it both ways
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I agree, but It hasn't been just one blown coverage. Its happened almost every game it goes all the way back to the Florida game.When frierson got beat Gurvan Hall should have been in the right spot but he wasn't, and little Tony went dancing to the end zone. Thats on coaching. I understand there will be growing pains with two new starters and yes, I remember. Do you remember redwine playing safety in high school? because I do and he's always been a more natural safety IMO. I am giving the safeties a lot of credit for their production the last few years they've were great lol I see what your trying to say, i'm just not giving Banda the credit for god given skills and hard work from Killian to the NFL.
 
Bubbacane10 said:
I agree, but It hasn't been just one blown coverage. Its happened almost every game it goes all the way back to the Florida game.When frierson got beat Gurvan Hall should have been in the right spot but he wasn't, and little Tony went dancing to the end zone. Thats on coaching. I understand there will be growing pains with two new starters and yes, I remember. Do you remember redwine playing safety in high school? because I do and he's always been a more natural safety IMO. I am giving the safeties a lot of credit for their production the last few years they've were great lol I see what your trying to say, i'm just not giving Banda the credit for god given skills and hard work from Killian to the NFL.
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What I'm saying is this. If a player does great you cant say that's all on the player but if he does bad it's all on the coach. The last few years Banda has been here safety play has not be an issue on defense. So if it hasn't been an issue before I would lean more towards inexperienced players. Growing pains. The play your referring to against Florida if I remember right I want to say had a few miss tackles. I guess that's the coaches fault also.
 
AHURT12 said:
What I'm saying is this. If a player does great you cant say that's all on the player but if he does bad it's all on the coach. The last few years Banda has been here safety play has not be an issue on defense. So if it hasn't been an issue before I would lean more towards inexperienced players. Growing pains. The play your referring to against Florida if I remember right I want to say had a few miss tackles. I guess that's the coaches fault also.
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No I agree with you i'm not saying if a player makes a mistake its all on the coaches. They're not the ones playing I get It, it works both ways. Im more referring to this year's safety play.It's the coaches Job to prepare them. For example as Banda said himself in regards to bubba bolden, his playing time depends on if he tackles the "Miami way". Well who's coaching them how to tackle? Banda lol. So if Banda is teaching the safeties how tackling should be done, and they've missed tackles all season, it's only his fault? Miami had 29 missed tackles a few weeks ago. That is such an astronomical missed amount of tackles. That can't be all on the players IMO. The coaches don't prepare this defense enough and it shows when they are sleep walking into overtime against Georgia Tech. I respect your opinion and I do hear your argument, but this isn't all on the players. My whole point in the first place was stroud isn't the problem lol.
 
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Bubbacane10 said:
No I agree with you i'm not saying if a player makes a mistake its all on the coaches. They're not the ones playing I get It, it works both ways. Im more referring to this year's safety play.It's the coaches Job to prepare them. For example as Banda said himself in regards to bubba bolden, his playing time depends on if he tackles the "Miami way". Well who's coaching them how to tackle? Banda lol. So if Banda is teaching the safeties how tackling should be done, and they've missed tackles all season, it's only his fault? Miami had 29 missed tackles a few weeks ago. That is such an astronomical missed amount of tackles. That can't be all on the players IMO. The coaches don't prepare this defense enough and it shows when they are sleep walking into overtime against Georgia Tech. I respect your opinion and I do hear your argument, but this isn't all on the players. My whole point in the first place was stroud isn't the problem lol.
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I agree it's a two way street but the Georgia Tech game for example the miss tackles were bad. Stroud is not the problem. This teams lacks a qb, experinece and offensive and defensive depth to be consistent. Once the depth issues are solved, this team will be alot better
 
AHURT12 said:
I agree it's a two way street but the Georgia Tech game for example the miss tackles were bad. Stroud is not the problem. This teams lacks a qb, experinece and offensive and defensive depth to be consistent. Once the depth issues are solved, this team will be alot better
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Ya collectively that was a **** show. Don’t forget a left tackle and a kicker!
 
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