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FSU 2013 v. 2019 LSU

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One of the advantages of working at IBM is I can ask Deep Blue to run the simulation!

“I'm bulletproof, nothing to lose, Fire away, fire away. Ricochet, you take your aim, Fire away, fire away. You shoot me down, but I won't fall, I am titanium. You shoot me down, but I won't fall I am titanium!”
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this is amazing!!! Can you add 95 Nebraska in the mix vs 01 Canes, as its pretty much those two that everyone considers the best CFB team of all-time?
 
2019 LSU.

FSU appeared to be the more complete team; because having HOFs at QB, WR1, and WR2 is a cheat code and unprecedented. Also, LSU’s defense is better than given credit for. More on that in a bit. LSU ended their season like this:

LSU 50-7 A&M. The defensive coordinator from that game is now the A&M HC.

LSU 37-10 UGA. 37 points was more than double what anybody else scored on UGA except South Carolina, who beat UGA 20-17 in double overtime. Outside of a 31 point loss to Hugh Freeze in year 1, It is the largest margin of victory against any of Kirby’s UGA teams; LSU also beat UGA by 20 the prior year.

LSU 63-28 OU. Tied with TCU for holding OU to their lowest points scored on the year.

LSU 42-25 CLEM (defending national champions). 42 points were more than double anybody scored on Clemson besides Ohio State, who lost to Clemson 23 to 29.

LSU had 32 guys drafted off of that team; including 14 in 2020. FSU had 23, including 7 in 2014. Both Ramsey and Stingley Jr were true freshmen on their respective teams. Both DCs became HCs. The biggest difference is FSU had 11 guys get drafted in 2015 and 2 in 2016 while LSU had 6 in 2021 and 10 in 2022. LSU’s team was well-around just much less experienced than FSU’s who had more upperclassmen.

NINE of the sixteen quarterbacks LSU faced were drafted: Sam Ehlinger, Jordan Love, Bo Nix, Kyle Trask, Tua, Kellen Mond, Jake Fromm, Trevor Lawrence, and Jalen Hurts. 6 of them are still in the NFL.

TWO of the fourteen quarteracks FSU faced were drafted: Tom Savage and Tahj Boyd. They played Maryland w/ Stefon Diggs; however he had nobody to throw the ball to him.

The Auburn team FSU played beat Alabama in the regular season; so did the Auburn team LSU played. The ‘19 Auburn team beat a 12-2 Cristobal Oregon team that was a championship contender with an elite quarterback in Herbert. LSU beat seven top ten teams in ‘19.

Where i believe FSU deserves additional credit for is their backup quarterback (Jake Coker) winning a national championship with Alabama, after many proclaimed their run was over after losing four games in two years to Auburn, Oklahoma, Ohio State and Ole Miss. not sure how I’d quantify that, tho, with respect to the 2013 team itself. It just adds to their prestige imo.
 
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LSU would win that game. Winston is/was a mental midget and he'd have a very difficult time playing from behind the entire game.
 
DMoney said:
We had this discussion on the show with @k9cane, and I thought it made sense to post it here.

I think the 2019 LSU team is becoming overrated. They had the best QB/WR trio ever, but they weren't as physical as true all-time teams and they lacked old NFL talent on defense. Their best defensive player was a freshman Derek Stingley, and he'd be sitting on the bench next to a freshman Sean Taylor and Antrel Rolle on the '01 team.

I don't think the '01 comparison is even worth discussing, but here's a closer one: Is FSU 2013 better than 2019 LSU? I think FSU is the better and more complete team.
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I’m judging them based on their play at the end of the season not the totality.

By the time LSU hit the playoffs, that version of LSU would’ve beaten 2013 FSU by 3 tuddies.
 
I think LSU scored 46 on Bama, followed by three consecutive 50-burgers against SEC teams, then scored 37 against Georgia, 63 on Oklahoma and 42 on Clemson.

No team scored more than 23 against Clemson, 20 against Georgia and 31 to Alabama (not counting the 48 vs Auburn due to various turnovers by Mac Jones).

LSU is one of the best teams that has ever played the game of football. They destroyed elite units with ease and outscored elite offenses at will. A Saban coached Alabama team with three second round draft picks, two third round draft picks in 2020 and Pat Surtain and Christian Barmore being drafted in 2021 looked completely clueless whilst throwing the entire playbook at him.

I'll take LSU. People mention their O-Line as a weakness, FSUs is not good either.
 
DMoney said:
We had this discussion on the show with @k9cane, and I thought it made sense to post it here.

I think the 2019 LSU team is becoming overrated. They had the best QB/WR trio ever, but they weren't as physical as true all-time teams and they lacked old NFL talent on defense. Their best defensive player was a freshman Derek Stingley, and he'd be sitting on the bench next to a freshman Sean Taylor and Antrel Rolle on the '01 team.

I don't think the '01 comparison is even worth discussing, but here's a closer one: Is FSU 2013 better than 2019 LSU? I think FSU is the better and more complete team.
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You're right......WIDE RIGHT!!!!!
 
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