Former FSU player shot, caught on camera.

[AtlAtty]

This was caused by defunded police?

Only to the irrational. Living in a police state, with the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world hasn’t stopped crime.
so maybe, just maybe, when a current approach has failed; lots of violent crime and lots of incompetent cops, maybe we should consider something different.
but not on this forum.

 

[AtlAtty]

It's too late. This is the worst the board has been imo. Having a political conversation is one thing but there are too many radicals who post non-stop on every thread but are too dumb to actually have a meaningful conversation.

We need sports now more than ever to give us something else to talk and care about, or even just to distract us for a few minutes a day. Without sports we all watch the news incessantly, overreact to every piece of news and find reasons to tear each other down. Sports is the common ground we all need.

 

[CF3]

Btw Philadelphia is one of the major cities that want police defunded. If this **** happens now, imagine what will happen with a depleted PD. Digusting what is happening in our cities.

Its wild out in North Philly and they have a large police force. Doesn't matter if its over funded, partially funded, or defunded if its ineffective. They dismantled the Camden, NJ police who sucked up overtime in one of the most dangerous cities in America. The replacement was a force that was based on community policing with officers actually walking the "beat" in neighborhoods. The result was a significant drop in crime over the last several years. Defunding doesn't mean let it become the wild west. It already is in places like North Philly

 

[canenok]

This was caused by defunded police?

No, this happens routinely in some communities. He was stating how a defunded police dept. would exacerbate the problems in said communities. No doubt that BAD cops are BAD for all communities.

 

[Plzwork4]

Only to the irrational. Living in a police state, with the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world hasn’t stopped crime.
so maybe, just maybe, when a current approach has failed; lots of violent crime and lots of incompetent cops, maybe we should consider something different.
but not on this forum.

Crime rates have been at their historical lows, but keep going...

 

[Plzwork4]

Its wild out in North Philly and they have a large police force. Doesn't matter if its over funded, partially funded, or defunded if its ineffective. They dismantled the Camden, NJ police who sucked up overtime in one of the most dangerous cities in America. The replacement was a force that was based on community policing with officers actually walking the "beat" in neighborhoods. The result was a significant drop in crime over the last several years. Defunding doesn't mean let it become the wild west. It already is in places like North Philly

What?!?! They turned the policing over to the county and disbanded their union, and by doing so this freed up funds that actually allowed them to almost double the police force in Camden. Wow the narratives you all are manipulated into believing are nuts...

 

[RickRollU]

his former coach told me a while ago, he made a huge mistake going to FSU. He said the program has no structure, its a mess. he said he actually regressed as a person. I actually got this kid his um offer through james coley. I told them to take DJ Moore (1st round pick of Panthers last year) his HS teammate but they wanted cager and chatman. This kid had offers from everywhere but made the wrong choice. Ohio State, Bama, Michigan, etc all wanted him. Pete kept saying he was coming here but i told everyone he wasnted until Golden was fired.

I remember you advocating for Moore and Upshur would be a lock. Good call man!

 

[Black-Chaos]

It wouldn't.... the cop would have shot him first.

I was thinking the same thing the police would of shot them all.#F tha police

 

[Astcloud11]

his former coach told me a while ago, he made a huge mistake going to FSU. He said the program has no structure, its a mess. he said he actually regressed as a person. I actually got this kid his um offer through james coley. I told them to take DJ Moore (1st round pick of Panthers last year) his HS teammate but they wanted cager and chatman. This kid had offers from everywhere but made the wrong choice. Ohio State, Bama, Michigan, etc all wanted him. Pete kept saying he was coming here but i told everyone he wasnted until Golden was fired.

As a TE, he would've been better off with Golden than Jimbo.

 

[JOE'CANE]

Its wild out in North Philly and they have a large police force. Doesn't matter if its over funded, partially funded, or defunded if its ineffective. They dismantled the Camden, NJ police who sucked up overtime in one of the most dangerous cities in America. The replacement was a force that was based on community policing with officers actually walking the "beat" in neighborhoods. The result was a significant drop in crime over the last several years. Defunding doesn't mean let it become the wild west. It already is in places like North Philly

This is just talking points. Nearly every large if not all police departments embrace community policing. Community policing would not have stopped this act from occurring. Especially with the culture that has taken hold in urban communities. What would have stopped this is proactive policing. Maybe a pretextual traffic stop, which has been found constitutional by the supreme court.

Proactive policing is the most effective way to deter violent criminals. Community policing is the most effective way to built bridges into the community however one does not work without the other. Today there is NO political will to support proactive policing especially in liberal cities.

These are just facts. Do you think community policing was not implemented in Seattle? And they just lost a precinct and 8 blocks of their city. The problem is that you must have an olive branch but you also need the stick.

 

[DTP]

Btw Philadelphia is one of the major cities that want police defunded. If this **** happens now, imagine what will happen with a depleted PD. Digusting what is happening in our cities.

But they haven’t defunded the police. And still this happened right in broad daylight.

 

[JOE'CANE]

But they haven’t defunded the police. And still this happened right in broad daylight.

But they haven’t defunded the police. And still this happened right in broad daylight.

But they haven’t defunded the police. And still this happened right in broad daylight.

Ummm did you read the comment?

 

[The Franchise]

Only to the irrational. Living in a police state, with the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world hasn’t stopped crime.
so maybe, just maybe, when a current approach has failed; lots of violent crime and lots of incompetent cops, maybe we should consider something different.
but not on this forum.

Right wing robots are so brainwashed and indoctrinated that they just puppet stupid political talking points on every subject. They’d rather keep doing everything the way it’s always been even if the way it’s always been isn’t working because their feeble brains are incapable of considering or processing change.

 

[JOE'CANE]

What?!?! They turned the policing over to the county and disbanded their union, and by doing so this freed up funds that actually allowed them to almost double the police force in Camden. Wow the narratives you all are manipulated into believing are nuts...

Ppl ignore facts because its inconvenient. The guy is talking about police state when literally during the last 2 weeks there has been anarchy in several American cities bc politicians have neutered the police so much they dont even enforce laws that are felonies.

Incarceration rate is even more bullsh1t. A convicted rapist in this country, on average, gets 4 years. David Dorns killer was a CONVICTED ARMED ROBBER that never spent a day in prison. We are too soft on violent criminals.

 

[Empirical Cane]

I’m a bit lost with the shooting someone with automatics while wearing protective masks for covid.

Safety first.

PS the assailants in the video shoot like little girls.

 

[DTP]

Ppl ignore facts because its inconvenient. The guy is talking about police state when literally during the last 2 weeks there has been anarchy in several American cities bc politicians have neutered the police so much they dont even enforce laws that are felonies.

Incarceration rate is even more bullsh1t. A convicted rapist in this country, on average, gets 4 years. David Dorns killer was a CONVICTED ARMED ROBBER that never spent a day in prison. We are too soft on violent criminals.

Keep giving mandatory minimum sentences to non violent drug offenders though. I mean, if we stopped putting people in jail for everything, all our prisons wouldn’t be overcrowded and they would have to parole violent offenders so often.

 

[Plzwork4]

Right wing robots are so brainwashed and indoctrinated that they just puppet stupid political talking points on every subject. They’d rather keep doing everything the way it’s always been even if the way it’s always been isn’t working because their feeble brains are incapable of considering or processing change.

There are literally years and piles of statistics showing that everytime you lower the police force in an area crime rises...but yes its just talking points. Holy ****...I would've thought you would actually look at some facts instead of being ruled by emotion on a topic that requires a bit of education.

 

[JOE'CANE]

Keep giving mandatory minimum sentences to non violent drug offenders though. I mean, if we stopped putting people in jail for everything, all our prisons wouldn’t be overcrowded and they would have to parole violent offenders so often.

-_- you had me with the first sentence then you lost me with the 2nd. I literally just said they dont put you in jail for everything. Especially with all these activists judges using emotions rather than interpreting the law.

 

[AtlAtty]

Crime rates have been at their historical lows, but keep going...

I work in crime. I’m a criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor in Atlanta. Anyone who tells you that violent crime has dropped is lying. I’ve literally seen no change in crime rates in 24 years of practicing law.

 

[AtlAtty]

Ppl ignore facts because its inconvenient. The guy is talking about police state when literally during the last 2 weeks there has been anarchy in several American cities bc politicians have neutered the police so much they dont even enforce laws that are felonies.

Incarceration rate is even more bullsh1t. A convicted rapist in this country, on average, gets 4 years. David Dorns killer was a CONVICTED ARMED ROBBER that never spent a day in prison. We are too soft on violent criminals.

I beg to disagree. In Georgia where I practice criminal law,
murder is a mandatory life sentencing with no parole consideration for 30 years.
Rape, Agg Sodomy, Agg Child Molestation is a mandatory 25 years with no parole.
Kidnapping with boldly injury is mandatory life with no parole for 30 years.
Armed Robbery is a mandatory 10 years with no parole.

what has happened in most states due to draconian sentences for violent crimes and static criminal justice budgets is that non-violent offenders are serving 50% of their sentences or less because all the need space is being taken by the violent criminals.

Thats the hard truth whether it fits your narrative or not. And it’s not just in Georgia. So you can na sherry pick a case anywhere but what I am giving you is the actual law as written, not an anecdote.