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The ironic part is that we’ve had the “most consequential season” every year for pretty much the last decade.

We’re not ready to compete for a natty, but playoff berth and ACC championship appearance at a minimum, if not now, when?
 
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With these bloated leagues and unbalanced conference schedules, you just never know.

Last season regular season:

SMU won 11
Miami won 10
Clemson won 9
Syracuse won 9
Duke won 9
Louisville won 8


This year you could have 4 teams win 10 or more in ACC.

Its not some impossible thing.
 
Brains said:
I firmly believe that every team and season is distinct, and that prior seasons are not instructive.

That said, your thought process is exactly the same one that is blocking me from embracing the idea that we finish better than 9-3. There just always seems to be some stumbling block.

Hopefully, we bulldoze any obstacles this year.
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I'm stuck between 9-3 and 10-2. It's the random ACC oopsie game that gets us.
 
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cway313 said:
Make the playoffs and season was a success. No if's ands or buts @TwentySix .
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What's crazy is that making the playoff is a lower bar than winning the ACC.

Fanduel has us at +400 to win the ACC and +198 to make the playoffs.

ESPN's power index gives us a 30.5% chance to win the ACC and a 46.3% to make the playoffs.
 
SCarolina Ibis said:
What's crazy is that making the playoff is a lower bar than winning the ACC.

Fanduel has us at +400 to win the ACC and +198 to make the playoffs.

ESPN's power index gives us a 30.5% chance to win the ACC and a 46.3% to make the playoffs.
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Most metrics are super high on Clemson this season. So us making the conference championship game and losing to them is sort of the prevailing expectation, which would likely put us in the playoffs.
 
Jonnyblaze said:
The ironic part is that we’ve had the “most consequential season” every year for pretty much the last decade.

We’re not ready to compete for a natty, but playoff berth and ACC championship appearance at a minimum, if not now, when?
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If we win the ACC and enter the playoffs we are ready for a Natty.
 
This is the exact point in their tenure every coach dating back to Shannon where things fell apart. It was after each of their best seasons and coming in with “high” expectations.

Shannon - 2010 - coming off 9 win season (the most he would ever win) where we beat multiple ranked teams he brought a ton back in 2010. Season started to tailspin after FSU and we finished 7-6. Shannon fired.

Golden - 2014 - coming off 9 win season (the most he would ever win) where we beat UF and were ranked in the top 10. Season started to tailspin after FSU and we finished 6-7. If not for a change in university president Golden would’ve been fired after this season, but instead we have 2015, perhaps the biggest waste of a season in school history.

Richt - 2018 - coming off 10 win season (the most he would ever win at Miami) where we beat multiple ranked teams including destroying ND and VT he brought a ton back in 2018. Season started to tailspin after UVA, we couldn’t score at all, and we finished 7-6. Richt retired.

Diaz - 2021 - coming off 8 win season (the most he would ever win at Miami) where we destroyed FSU and went 7-2 in the ACC he brought a ton back in 2021. Season started in a tailspin and we had to recover to finish 7-5. Diaz fired.

The point being every recent coach has topped out and immediately significantly fallen off. Mario is coming off his best season here. It is critical, at worst, to get another 10 win season (yes, we really need to make ACC title game and playoff), or else his tenure will likely mirror his predecessors.
 
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This is the exact point in their tenure every coach dating back to Shannon where things fell apart. It was after each of their best seasons and coming in with “high” expectations.

Shannon - 2010 - coming off 9 win season (the most he would ever win) where we beat multiple ranked teams he brought a ton back in 2010. Season started to tailspin after FSU and we finished 7-6.

Golden - 2014 - coming off 9 win season (the most he would ever win) where we beat UF and were ranked in the top 10. Season started to tailspin after FSU and we finished 6-7. If not for a change in university president he would’ve been fired after this season.

Richt - 2018 - coming off 10 win season (the most he would ever win at Miami) where we beat multiple ranked teams including destroying ND and VT he brought a ton back in 2018. Season started to tailspin after UVA, we couldn’t score at all, and we finished 7-6.

Diaz - 2021 - coming off 8 win season (the most he would ever win at Miami) where we destroyed FSU and went 7-2 in the ACC he brought a ton back in 2021. Season started in a tailspin and we had to recover to finish 7-5.

The point being every recent coach has topped out and immediately significantly fallen off. Mario is coming off his best season here. It is critical, at worst, to get another 10 win season (yes, we really need to make ACC title game and playoff), or else his tenure will likely mirror his predecessors.
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Fack reading that hurt. Crazy how mediocre we’ve been for so long
 
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L A M P said:
JMO. I think Mario was the right hire to turn around this program but I don’t think he will get us to the next step.
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So even though he’s ascending and brings in players with a better resume than last year you know he can’t take the next step? So he can turn it around but only plateau? Interesting.
 
My 2025 wish list, in order, realistic.

1. Make ACC championship game
2. Win bowl game



3. Win ACC
4. Make playoffs

I think Clemson is too tough to beat this year and I am not sure we can make the playoffs with 3 losses.
 
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