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For those absolving Mario and the staff...

TimeBum said:
You gotta stop with this culture nonsense. If you want a winning culture, you have to win games. That's where good coaches play a huge role. Coaches need to find a way to get Ws even if the players are tripping all over themselves. Once the team starts winning games, the players will start to believe that they are capable of winning and they also have faith the staff will put them in a position to win games. The coaching staff builds on that and makes sure the players remember how terrible it feels to lose a game, and then the players start putting in the work on their own so they don't experience that feeling again.
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You have to win games, but you also need guys that are going to work.
 
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5Rings&an Asterisk said:
You have to win games, but you also need guys that are going to work.
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and its on coaches to bench the kids that aren't putting in the work. goes both ways. at Bama, Saban will sit your *** even if you are a five star even if you dont perform. he has no issues with it. I hope we see that going forward
 
90scane said:
Does Mario get a reset if he wins the coastal or wins 10 games one year?
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lets wait and see it done first then yes. if he come out and wins this coastal and gets us in Charlotte no matter how bad the division, its still something we only did once. I wont expect a division title considering its only happened one time. I dont count the time golden did it when UNC finished better than us but were banned.
 
TimeBum said:
You gotta stop with this culture nonsense. If you want a winning culture, you have to win games. That's where good coaches play a huge role. Coaches need to find a way to get Ws even if the players are tripping all over themselves. Once the team starts winning games, the players will start to believe that they are capable of winning and they also have faith the staff will put them in a position to win games. The coaching staff builds on that and makes sure the players remember how terrible it feels to lose a game, and then the players start putting in the work on their own so they don't experience that feeling again.

UM just had the posterboy for college football culture as the HC a few years ago. Mark Richt was the program builder, the guy who was supposed to bring a winning culture to UM. He won 9 games his 1st season with a team that was 95% Al Golden players- a group so bad it got the previous HC fired mid-season. In his 2nd season he won 10 games, again with a roster that was around 60-70% Al Golden "loser" recruits. And then in his third season, when the majority of the team was Mark Richt recruits, the team finishes one game over .500 and essentially causes him to resign rather than fire his staff. So these Mark Richt "winning culture" recruits then finish at .500 under Diaz the following year including the loss to FIU and getting blanked by La Tech.

According to fan logic, this should have been impossible because Coach Culture, Mark Richt, recruited and taught these players. Even with a bad coach like Diaz, the roster of winners shouldn't have needed Diaz to coach them to victory, they should have been able to motivate themselves.
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Totally convinced that after the NC lost this is on the coaches. Why, because they keep on putting in under achievers and don't let younger players show their stuff. As far as Mario goes he is a MASSIVE LETDOWN and he is your culprit but stop using the ridiculous excuse it's the culture. He should be playing younger players. He is stubborn, old fashioned, and a **** poor day game coach! All of this for a long multi year contract with big big dollars. I'll take Lashlee for a quarter of that salary. Our coaching staff is BRUTAL!
 
BeachCanes said:
Dude, UNC gave up 60 points in a game. We put up 24. Our coaches are horrid. Why do you have a hard time holding these millionaires accountable?
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By that account, Miami held UNC to 27 their season low so why don't you give them any credit? You also can't read as I clearly stated Steele lost us the MTSU game.
 
DiegoCane said:
So unlucky that no one else has lemons, only Miami.

WF 3* are elite. Miamis 4* are lemons. Nothing you can do
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There are plenty of lemons around college football...teams like Miami have a concentration of them...so does Auburn, another high Blue Chip Ratio team. Florida, LSU, Texas, and Texas A&M, too. Plenty of teams end up with the lemons and have mid seasons over and over and over again.

Sark went 5-7 in his first year with Texas and had well over 60% blue chip ratio. Oklahoma has a blue chip ratio over 60% and they are doing the same thing we are doing this year.

Just below that 50% Blue Chip Ratio is always teams like Washington, Tennessee, FSU, UNC.

This group of juniors and seniors at Miami have lost to so many sub-par G5 teams, idk how any of yall can say with a straight face that these guys are actually talented.

Dave Clawson has been at Wake Forest for 9 years...it took him 8 years to get to this point where he's got a senior loaded roster that can actually win the ACC. A few 3-9 seasons, 7-6 seasons in there. Programs take a while to dig themselves out of the graves they were put in.
 
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ristwasdown said:
No one's absolving the staff. The coaches are gonna have to call a perfect game for this team to win. You just saw it...

Coaches have been mid. Players have been mid. We are mid.

Let's see if we improve
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Mid?

Bless you brother - you are way more - than Generous.

I'd give my left doo-dad for MID.
 
Tad Footeball said:
...and basically describing the roster as too full of kids beyond or incapable of "fixing".

Are you satisfied with what Mario did via the Portal to fix this then?

I'm personally not firing anybody on the staff yet and understand Mario has and will have as much job security as any coach in CFB. That said, with the change in transfer rules and the fact that Mario & Co. had plenty of time to evaluate what was left in the cupboard for them- is it reasonable to just blame the players? Good coaches do wayyyy more with wayyyyy less every Saturday. Good coaches also immediately change "culture" issues too.
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I was the ONLY one ripping Mario during the offseason for not getting better portal WR, CB, and LB.

I got ripped and called a “mope.” I even had one guy follow me from thread to thead because I dared say Mario “failed” to address those positions…you guys took issue with that word “failed.”

I predicted 7 wins. I got called a troll. “But but but…we won seven last year, blah blah.”

Now I’m about the only one defending Mario.

I was right then, and I am right now. The SUMMER was the time to whine and cry about these things. Not now. There’s nothing we can do now but roll with the roster we got.

But you guys are so **** reactive, emotional, and slaves to the present moment, it’s nearly impossible to respect most of you.

The time to cry about this stuff was several months ago when the staff could have done something. Now? What you should be concerning yourselves with is the ‘23 class and making it top 5.

Y’all gotta learn to take your precious feelings out of it and look at things for what they are, no more and no less.
 
Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
Nope. Richt did that and everyone wanted him gone the year after. He doesn’t need a reset though with that idiotic contract
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Manny would've won 10 in year 2 w a healthy king if not for the covid cancellation of the wake? game. he still is a trash coach and we still wanted him run out of town. either way, ill hold my breath about the coastal. we've only won it once
 
RightSaidFred said:
I was the ONLY one ripping Mario during the offseason for not getting better portal WR, CB, and LB.

I got ripped and called a “mope.” I even had one guy follow me from thread to thead because I dared say Mario “failed” to address those positions…you guys took issue with that word “failed.”

I predicted 7 wins. I got called a troll. “But but but…we won seven last year, blah blah.”

Now I’m about the only one defending Mario.

I was right then, and I am right now. The SUMMER was the time to whine and cry about these things. Not now. There’s nothing we can do now but roll with the roster we got.

But you guys are so **** reactive, emotional, and slaves to the present moment, it’s nearly impossible to respect most of you.

The time to cry about this stuff was several months ago when the staff could have done something. Now? What you should be concerning yourselves with is the ‘23 class and making it top 5.

Y’all gotta learn to take your precious feelings out of it and look at things for what they are, no more and no less.
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a lot of people btiched about Mario before and were shunned (remember the whole staff hiring process). it seems like he may have ****ed up on the coordinator hires overall and some of the position coaches. either way, still more time to prove us wrong. there were also those were down on Mario overall esp on the deal he was given. some wanted lane and others. I was fine w Mario bc I knew he'd at least recruit well and he wouldn't bounce on us early, but I did say lane would have us winning early and often bc hes just a better x and o guy than Mario is. Mario goes as far as his coordinators take him in terms of on field coaching. what Mario does better than lane is recruiting but recruiting while being the local coach is a diff animal than being the OOS guy
 
@KingLew88 said:
Another dumb coaching decision. This kid has missed 30 yarders and is not a top tier kicker. You punt that everytime. You have to know the talent on your team. We just do the dumbest stuff.

Like that 4th down call 😂😂😂
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Yea. Jaylen fumbling the ball. **** we're we thinking!? A RB holding on to the ball?! That's not his job. Come Mario on to the ball. You are the head coach.
 
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hoops156 said:
elko turned around a horrific duke roster that was one of the worst in the p5 in an offseason. we can't beat MTSU?
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Turned what around? Duke is 4-2 and just lost to Georgia Tech yesterday. They beat Temple, North Carolina A&T and bad Northwestern and Virginia teams.

They’ll go 6-6 or 5-7 this year. What was “turned around”?
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
Turned what around? Duke is 4-2 and just lost to Georgia Tech yesterday. They beat Temple, North Carolina A&T and bad Northwestern and Virginia teams.

They’ll go 6-6 or 5-7 this year. What was “turned around”?
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we lost to MTSU and only have wins against Bethune and Southern Miss. take that in. that might be two of the worst wins amongst all p5 teams so far. also considering duke was 3-9 last year, 2-9 the year before. id say thats a pretty good start for a coach who took over a dead school from cutty who basically was cooked the last 3-4 years. I didnt say they're amazing either.
 
BeachCanes said:
It’s hilarious… people keep talking about Manny leaving the cupboard “bare”. We have 40+ 4 stars. You don’t need that much talent to win the ACC let alone beat MTSU and UNC.
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App State v TAMU.
Purdue v Ohio State
Marshall v Notre Dame.
 
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