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For the “we don’t play anybody” crowd

Go Canes!! said:
Lmao at people ragging our scheduling without comparison.

The Turds haven't played an OOC game outside of Florida since 1991.
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maybe because they play FSU every year. If we played Florida every year, we wouldn’t leave the state either, unless it was to play app state or something
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
Because its true. Most people are not bringing it up to say "we have a weak schedule we should join the SEC to play harder competition". They usually say "we have a weak *** schedule we should win the coastal this year". Also, its not just the SEC. The B1G and B1g 12 also are much tougher confs than the ACC. Even the Pac-12 is tougher than the Coastal.

App State can't control who they play in their in conference games. Their schedule is still soft.
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I see what you’re saying . I definitely agree with folks that say we should be running through the coastal . I just don’t think it’s as bad as people try to make it seem . It’s seems to me that the parity in college football from conference to conference increases every year .
 
Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
maybe because they play FSU every year. If we played Florida every year, we wouldn’t leave the state either, unless it was to play app state or something
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We play FSU every year too and that hasn't stopped us from scheduling everyone I just listed.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Hey, you can laugh about "how long it took me to put this together" (not long, Google exists, and it's not hard to type), but I certainly invested more thought than "Pick Six Previews did. The sad thing is, I could have done 80% of that research from memory. We have played very few quality games, and we have been overly reliant on Florida directional schools. I didn't need to Google the last 15 years to know that, I've sat through it as an alum and season-ticketholder.

Look, it's dangerous to just "drop off" a list or a stat that someone else compiled, in the mistaken belief that you have proved your point or won an argument.

So put down the crack pipe, and let's think about what you think you have proven.

"So I guess any team that isn't in the SEC plays a weak schedule". No, that's not the point. If you DON'T play in the SEC (and you only play Clemson twice every 12 years), you might need to improve your overall strength-of-schedule with some good OOC games.

If (like me) you had bothered to look at some prior year schedules, you would have seen that in some earlier years, Miami annually played up to 5 ACC teams that were ranked at year-end. This year, beyond Clemson, the ONLY OTHER ranked team at year-end was UVa, AND THERE WERE FIVE GROUP OF FIVE TEAMS RANKED HIGHER THAN UVA.

So, yeah, is it "too much" to expect Blake to make a better effort to schedule quality Power 5 OOC games? It's not even purely a "strength of schedule" issue, he needs to give the fans a good reason to buy season tickets, and a good reason to buy away game tickets. For 2020, this is the home schedule:

Temple, Wagner, Alabama-Birmingham (Thursday night), Pitt, North Carolina, F$U, and Duke

Disgusting.

I agree that we "can't help what conference we are in". But that's where your logic ends. You don't understand the difference between contractual obligation games and pre-season kickoff games and REGULAR SCHEDULING? That's why your point is so worthless. ALL THAT BLAKE HAS TO DO EVERY YEAR is schedule 4 OOC games. That's it. 8 games are already scheduled by the ACC. And if you know **** well that we are in a weaker conference, or that the "Miami audience" is hard to impress and doesn't just go out to 6 crappy games every year, then he has to make an effort to schedule better OOC games. And when we have so many contractual obligation and pre-season games (one-offs with no return trip to Miami), then it becomes painfully obvious that Blake is stealing paychecks.

I have previously posted a lengthy list of Power 5 teams that we SHOULD be scheduling, teams that haven't been scheduled in decades. Just off the top of my head, I could list USC (urban private school), Northwestern (another urban private school), Vanderbilt (ANOTHER urban private school), and TCU (a FOURTH urban private school). There, I've given you four schools from four different P5 conferences which would offer compelling storylines and ESPN-worthy games that would expose Miami to some relatively untapped markets. WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO COMPREHEND?

I'm not asking to schedule Bama and Oklahoma and Ohio Taint on an annual basis. I'm asking for Blake to do his job and make an effort.
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I wasn’t laughing at how long it took you to write it, I was more laughing at the fact that you seemed so triggered by the post, enough to write out all the stats and paragraphs you did . You just confirmed that with this additional long *** post . I said it was impressive , get out your feelings . I ain’t reading all that tho , I’m sure you made some good points
 
Go Canes!! said:
The horrible scheduling is basically just your opinion and has no factual backing.

When these games were booked if you asked 100 Cane fans if they'd rather play UF and Notre Dame again or Georgia and Oregon for example, I'd bet a huge percentage would take the first two. There is nothing wrong in gravitating back to natural, historical rivals. At the time each of those games were gigantic events. Don't you remember last year in Orlando or 2017 at the Rock?

Your lists also has errors and some serious cherry picking. You left out the home and home we played against Ohio State in 2010 and 2011 and we played Nebraska, Kansas State and Notre Dame twice each not once. When scheduled nearly all of those were big games. Ranked one year and not the next can't be controlled.

Over the next three seasons we have games scheduled against Michigan State, Alabama and Texas A&M. Adding those games to the LSU and ND matchups means we will have played three teams who've made the College Football Playoff in over a 5 year span, two of which won the National Championship during that span.

What other school can claim they're even remotely close to that kind of OOC scheduling?

Everyone plays the patsies like the ones we have. Our overall scheduling has been and will continue to be as good or better than anyone else's out there. That's why we are ranked 2nd on that list and will continue to be in 5 years and beyond.
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jjacks93 said:
I wasn’t laughing at how long it took you to write it, I was more laughing at the fact that you seemed so triggered by the post, enough to write out all the stats and paragraphs you did . You just confirmed that with this additional long *** post . I said it was impressive , get out your feelings . I ain’t reading all that tho , I’m sure you made some good points
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I'm not "triggered" by your post.

I am angry that my worthless AD just takes my alumni status and Hurricane Club contributions for granted, and churns out crappy OOC schedules every year. And expects me to pay good money every year in return for his non-effort.

If you can't see that, then you don't understand.

I don't need your worthless re-posts of misleading lists. I have proven that our scheduling sucks. If you want to white-knight for Blake and our other crappy ADs, and make excuses for our ****-poor scheduling (while whining about the length of my posts), that is up to you.

Carry on.
 
Towards the end of last season I was definitely a part of the "we don't play anybody.....we can beat" crowd.

Hopefully those days are over forever.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
I'm not "triggered" by your post.

I am angry that my worthless AD just takes my alumni status and Hurricane Club contributions for granted, and churns out crappy OOC schedules every year. And expects me to pay good money every year in return for his non-effort.

If you can't see that, then you don't understand.

I don't need your worthless re-posts of misleading lists. I have proven that our scheduling sucks. If you want to white-knight for Blake and our other crappy ADs, and make excuses for our ****-poor scheduling (while whining about the length of my posts), that is up to you.

Carry on.
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Lmao now I’m whining about the length of your posts 😂 can’t make this sht up lol you got it man

keep writing novels while you’re not triggered about it . Lmao worthless post but you’re on it posting more than anyone 😂 Show me where I “white knighted” for Blake , or even mentioned his name or other ADs names at all . I’ll wait.
 
Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
youre quite the genius. Fsu is a non conf opponent to uf , not us. Florida would be for us, get it yet?
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The point is we don't have to play FSU every year and still do. Despite that we have routinely scheduled a ton of traditionally very tough home and home matchups and several season openers over our history while the Turds have never had the sac to even leave Florida.
 
Go Canes!! said:
The horrible scheduling is basically just your opinion and has no factual backing.

When these games were booked if you asked 100 Cane fans if they'd rather play UF and Notre Dame again or Georgia and Oregon for example, I'd bet a huge percentage would take the first two. There is nothing wrong in gravitating back to natural, historical rivals. At the time each of those games were gigantic events. Don't you remember last year in Orlando or 2017 at the Rock?

Your lists also has errors and some serious cherry picking. You left out the home and home we played against Ohio State in 2010 and 2011 and we played Nebraska, Kansas State and Notre Dame twice each not once. When scheduled nearly all of those were big games. Ranked one year and not the next can't be controlled.

Over the next three seasons we have games scheduled against Michigan State, Alabama and Texas A&M. Adding those games to the LSU and ND matchups means we will have played three teams who've made the College Football Playoff in over a 5 year span, two of which won the National Championship during that span.

What other school can claim they're even remotely close to that kind of OOC scheduling?

Everyone plays the patsies like the ones we have. Our overall scheduling has been and will continue to be as good or better than anyone else's out there. That's why we are ranked 2nd on that list and will continue to be in 5 years and beyond.
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You posted at 5:02 pm. Didn't you realize that Blake lets all you Hecht employees go home at 4:45 each day? You should get overtime pay for that post.

But, hey, you presented us with a false choice. "Oh, let's ask Cane fans if they'd rather play UF or ND again." Yeah, that's NOT the point, since both of those schools have made it clear that they do not want to play us with regularity. ND would never have scheduled us again if not for joining the ACC in all other sports. And UF even tries to wriggle out of SCHEDULED games with us.

Thank you for proving that you have serious reading comprehension deficits. My post was not inaccurate in any way. I correctly cited the six UNRANKED Power 5 teams that we played. Since the original poster was bragging about the 14 RANKED Power 5 teams that we played, I did not waste time listing every one of those games. Do you honestly believe that I don't know that ND and K-State were ranked for some games and unranked for other games? And I didn't omit Ohio State, I just referred to them by the "Taint" nickname, so don't get mad at me that you are too dumb to realize that.

Now go back to Blake's office and ask him to give you some more misleading stats so that you can keep defending him on the Miami fan sites.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Oh, good lord, what a useless statistic, used in a misleading way, to "act" as if Miami is doing a good job of scheduling.

A bit of analysis exposes the truth.

First, nobody said that Miami has NEVER played good teams, only that our scheduling has DECLINED and that we are playing the same crappy teams over and over and over again.

Second, Paul Dee was our AD through 2008. He had some decent games scheduled out for a few years. After our last high-water mark in 2012, when we played K-State and Notre Dame in the same year, this is what has happened since:

2013 - UF
2014 - Nebraska
2015 - nobody
2016 - nobody
2017 - Notre Dame as a contractual obligation arising from ND joining the ACC for all sports except football
2018 - LSU in a pre-season kickoff game
2019 - UF in a pre-season kickoff game

In fact, of these 14 massive "games against ranked Power Five teams", five have come against either The Gata or Notre Dame, two teams that have been traditional rivals of Miami's. Kick in another "contractual obligation" game (Louisville, when we tossed a few games to Big East left-behinds to compensate for us going to the ACC) and FIVE games against teams we have frequently faced in bowl games (2 games with OK, 2 games with Taint, and 1 game with Nebraska).

And look at the DECLINE. In the last 7 years, we have faced exactly FIVE ranked Power 5 teams, and 2 of the 5 were The Gata.

Then look at how we have scheduled beyond the Power 5. In the past 15 years, we have played:

FIU - 3 times
FAU - 3 times
FAMU - 5 times
Bethune-Cookman - 5 times
USF - 6 times (and we scheduled them before they were "good")
UCF - 2 times (and we DEFINITELY scheduled them before they were "good")
Savannah State - 2 times
Toledo - 2 times
Arkansas State - 2 times (one cancelled due to hurricane)

Here are the "good" OOC ranked Power 5 games:

Colorado - once (2005)
Texas A&M - once (2008)
Pitt - once (2010) - contractual obligation game
K-State - once (2011)
Nebraska - once (2015)
Notre Dame - once (2016) - contractual obligation game

That's it. In 15 years, besides our massive FOURTEEN ranked Power 5 opponents, we have had EXACTLY SIX "unranked" Power 5 opponents, though two were contractual obligation games (and query whether Pitt was Power 5 at the time - no).

So, sure, we have gotten lucky that most of our Power 5 opponents have been good when we played them, but we keep going back to the same cast of "usual suspects" (for both Power 5 AND crappy Florida directional schools).

AND LET'S RESTATE SOMETHING IMPORTANT. In the past SEVEN years, we have played exactly ONE game against a ranked Power 5 opponent that wasn't either (a) a traditional rival (The Gata and Notre Dame), (b) a pre-season kickoff game (The Gata and LSU), and/or (c) a contractual obligation game (Notre Dame).

SORRY, BUT THAT IS HORRIBLE SCHEDULING OVER THE PAST SEVEN YEARS.
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We played Notre Dame in 2016 (granted they sucked that year, but they're a traditional blue blood) and in 2017. This was scheduled along with the 2012 "neutral site" game in Chicago. It wasn't scheduled as a result of them joining the ACC, this was done beforehand. Otherwise, I don't think our scheduling has been bad but it definitely hasn't been great. The mid-20s looks promising though.

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Rivalry Renewed: Miami and Notre Dame Set To Meet

Christmas came early this year for University of Miami football fans. The Hurricanes and Fighting Irish finally sealed the deal to play each other for the first time since 1990. The game has been set for October 6, 2012 in Soldier Field...
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Go Canes!! said:
The point is we don't have to play FSU every year and still do. Despite that we have routinely scheduled a ton of traditionally very tough home and home matchups and several season openers over our history while the Turds have never had the sac to even leave Florida.
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We actually, literally, have to play F$U every year.

And you are lying about the "ton" of "traditionally very tough home-and-home matchups and several season openers".

Notre Dame wasn't home-and-home, it was 2-for-1 with 1 game being in Chicago (we could have easily scheduled Northwestern to get a Chicago game).

The last 2 years have been our ONLY pre-season neutral site openers in 15 years.

A "ton" would be two good Power Five games per year, and I provided proof that we haven't been doing that. We've had as many crappy years (with ZERO ranked Power 5 OOC opponents) as we have had years with two ranked Power 5 OOC opponents.

15 years. 20 Power 5 OOC games in the regular season. Five were contractual obligation games (ND, Pitt, Louisville). Four were The Gata and/or pre-season games with no return-trip game in Miami.

Blake is stealing paychecks. So did The Shermanator and Hocvnt.

The list of 20 OOC games in 15 years is not "opinion". It's proof that our scheduling has been terrible, and it's gotten worse in the last 7 years. We got lucky that 14 of our 20 Power Five OOC games were against ranked teams, and that we made it to #2 on that list, but it doesn't change the reality that we only played 20 Power Five OOC games in 15 years.

Horrendous.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
We actually, literally, have to play F$U every year.

And you are lying about the "ton" of "traditionally very tough home-and-home matchups and several season openers".

Notre Dame wasn't home-and-home, it was 2-for-1 with 1 game being in Chicago (we could have easily scheduled Northwestern to get a Chicago game).

The last 2 years have been our ONLY pre-season neutral site openers in 15 years.

A "ton" would be two good Power Five games per year, and I provided proof that we haven't been doing that. We've had as many crappy years (with ZERO ranked Power 5 OOC opponents) as we have had years with two ranked Power 5 OOC opponents.

15 years. 20 Power 5 OOC games in the regular season. Five were contractual obligation games (ND, Pitt, Louisville). Four were The Gata and/or pre-season games with no return-trip game in Miami.

Blake is stealing paychecks. So did The Shermanator and Hocvnt.

The list of 20 OOC games in 15 years is not "opinion". It's proof that our scheduling has been terrible, and it's gotten worse in the last 7 years. We got lucky that 14 of our 20 Power Five OOC games were against ranked teams, and that we made it to #2 on that list, but it doesn't change the reality that we only played 20 Power Five OOC games in 15 years.

Horrendous.
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The comment below literally made me lol.


"We got lucky that 14 of our 20 Power Five OOC games were against ranked teams, and that we made it to #2 on that list, but it doesn't change the reality that we only played 20 Power Five OOC games in 15 years."

Not going to check your cherry pick math but just tell me this. Who has played more?
 
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