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For FSU's football program long term, was a close loss to Miami actually worse than a blowout loss?

I know I'm not alone, I wanted us to crush them by a billion points, but that obviously didn't happen.
But I'm wondering if it was actually worse for them to lose to us the way they did.


It's probably not a simple answer but here's where I land on the topic: A loss is a loss, losing a close game to Miami just simply shifted the conversations around their program.

If it was a blowout, the conversations would have been how astronomically far behind they still are, how they need to recruit better, pay more in NIL, how much Norv3-LLLL continues to suck etc...

But we're seeing now that the conversations are largely about heartbroken whiny fans, to have a glimmer of hope only for it to be snatched away at the end, and how painful that is. And how fsu cannot fire him now because they WERE so close, and how the refs supposedly screwed them.



So long term, considering the fact that Norv3-LLLL is still an awful awful coach, but his seat cooled off slightly... maybe a close loss was actually worse for them long term than being blown out by Miami? Would be curious to hear your thoughts.
 
It was potentially better. Worse for UM.

If they spin it the right way, it should be a proof of concept for them and enticing to recruits that are competitors who want to play in that sort of game.
 
Absolutely. He would have been gone by now. Now he has time for redemption before he plays UF. He may get another year if he goes 7-5.
 
klineski96 said:
For FSU's football program long term, was a close loss to Miami actually worse than a blowout loss?

I know I'm not alone, I wanted us to crush them by a billion points, but that obviously didn't happen.
But I'm wondering if it was actually worse for them to lose to us the way they did.


It's probably not a simple answer but here's where I land on the topic: A loss is a loss, losing a close game to Miami just simply shifted the conversations around their program.

If it was a blowout, the conversations would have been how astronomically far behind they still are, how they need to recruit better, pay more in NIL, how much Norv3-LLLL continues to suck etc...

But we're seeing now that the conversations are largely about heartbroken whiny fans, to have a glimmer of hope only for it to be snatched away at the end, and how painful that is. And how fsu cannot fire him now because they WERE so close, and how the refs supposedly screwed them.



So long term, considering the fact that Norv3-LLLL is still an awful awful coach, but his seat cooled off slightly... maybe a close loss was actually worse for them long term than being blown out by Miami? Would be curious to hear your thoughts.
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Hopefully a Close loss means they’re keeping prison Mike around for a little longer and I’m all for that. Lol
 
dukemv said:
It was potentially better. Worse for UM.

If they spin it the right way, it should be a proof of concept for them and enticing to recruits that are competitors who want to play in that sort of game.
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The classic "we are so close to figuring out in Year 7, you can make a difference here" pitch, I am sure that will hit.
 
They are ****ed either way,
But the close loss probably means Norvell stays. Which will =

-They likely have a losing season again.

-They will have a **** poor recruiting class.

-You will see players who are decent leave the program.

-Toney White will likely be canned.

-Novell will have to find another transfer QB to run his system.

It’s going to take a Herculean effort for them to get out of the hole. Add 4-5 years minimum + however long Norvell stays.
 
It gives them reason to give Norvel more time

We also needed a game where we were tested like that, and played more than the regular duration
 
It’s a win-win. If we had blown them out, he’s gone & they get the buzz & head start on a coaching search. Now, they’re in limbo & just prolong the process. Maybe it helps get him another year or simply puts off a decision until the end of the season. In any event, they’re longer this drags on & he stays the better.
 
I don’t think anybody that watched that game thinks Miami played anything better than their C plus game, and Florida State played their A game.
I think that’s the best game that quarterback has played in his entire career. It had a lot to do with the fact that we had 15 defensive backs out, but nonetheless.
Overall, it was worse for them because they clearly don’t have the money to get rid of Norvell and they can point to games like that, say see…
 
dukemv said:
It was potentially better. Worse for UM.

If they spin it the right way, it should be a proof of concept for them and enticing to recruits that are competitors who want to play in that sort of game.
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Which unfortunately isn't that hard for them to do. I remember being shocked at the athletes they'd still get while having unstable coaching situations and being terrible.
 
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