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Brooklyndee said:



That's what I took part of putting into this universe and it's what y'all simply refuse to understand. We're not content with simply winning some games. Well be content when we have a standard again. Till then y'all do u & keep that energy. Cause we did best when we knew it was us against everyone. Our fans included.
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For 20 years of my adult life I’ve been nothing but Canes fan in enemy territory when stationed in GA, VA, HI and CA reppin’ orange and green to the fullest when we were on top and now the bottom. So from a fans point of view I been nothing but “me against the world”

Good night for realz this time
 
Stats02 said:
I knew what your post was aiming for, and I appreciated the post. I think it's an underrated post in this thread. Bad timing on my part.
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Just a little levity my friend. I think what you said is spot on and as RVA mentioned, it’s how most people feel

I know we are all just ready to turn the page on last year and go friggin nuts on Friday night
 
Tonight is not the night I’m going to engage in this mope thread…

Too many ****tails to participate
 
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Midlo Cane Fan said:
I rarely voice my own opinions on here, but I simply cannot stand how about half of this board continually bashes Mario. These mopey dopes were obviously expecting at least 9 or 10 wins last year, without taking into account the @&^% roster and state of the locker room he walked into.

It takes time to rebuild after years of devastation. To show how some of the all time greatest coaches did in their first 2-4 years at a major school, here's some records for a few.

Bear Bryant: TA&M-1-9, 7-2-1, 9-0-1.
ALA- 5-4, 7-2-2, 8-1-2.

Joe Paterno: PSU- 5-5-0, 8-2-1, 11-0-0.

Nick Saban: ALA- 7-6, 12-2.

Bobby Bowden: FSU- 5-6, 10-2.

Woody Hayes: OSU- 4-3-2, 6-3, 6-3, 10-0.

John McKay: USC- 4-6, 4-5-1, 11-0.

Does everyone see the progression? It takes time to install the culture and roster changes. Stop griping about the last 20 years. I've suffered right along with you. It was a combination of bad hiring and bad leadership.

And don't even @ me about NIL, because the paradigm shift happened right when Mario got here. Lots of people swore that it would be the difference maker for us, before the rest of CFB caught up.

So please, stop whining and moaning and be a Canes fan and support the team without spewing your agony for others to read.
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He's not Woody Hayes, Bear Bryant or Nick Saben,, he's ****** old Mario,,HaHa..
 
Its fair to say that Mario should be getting more than one year and expecting better results compared to what essentially happened was unrealistic, not only given that the roster quality-wise was not good enough but also because players were recycled in and out like crazy.

It's also fair to say that Mario still underperformed given staff hires and overall game and team performance. There's a way of playing a season, but getting ****canned by Pitt and FSU whilst falling apart against MTSU certainly isn't the way how things should go.

Both arguments have a valid stand to sit on. However, the consensus should be (and has to be) that by the end of this season, we'll know how things are headed with Mario. Worst case, we'll know it sooner than that.

If people don't view that as the consensus and have already made their mind up, so be it, but don't come celebrating if it happens at a later point. At least give him a second season, thats the minimum requirement.
 
Maybe I’m drinking the kool-aid again like I do every year, but I honestly feel we’re going to be much better this year. Not undefeated, playoff “better”, but I could definitely see this team going 9-3. I’ve said it all off-season, but my one major concern with this team is stopping the run on defense. Other than that, I feel pretty optimistic about the season.
 
CanesSkins26 said:
Come on now. We’re setting the bar quite low if we’re complaining about the highest paid coach in the school’s history not getting enough credit for firing arguably the worst OC in the school’s history and replacing him a competent coach. Yes, in doing so he is changing the offensive philosophy, but it’s not saying much about Mario’s tenure if that’s what we’re holding up as an achievement that we should be giving Mario more credit for.
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And yet you do not acknowledge the other myriad changes. New DC, new WR, LB and RB coaches. 18+ kids transferred out. 40 new players in with #7 recruiting class and #7 portal class. This is complete reset for the program. Should be an interesting season.
 
Twenty years of losing to teams we should have beaten has made us all skeptical. I believe that is why so many just can not stay positive when the direction seems to be going the wrong direction, last year being a case in point. I for one am considering last year as an outlier and I am actually,( for the first time in a long time), looking forward to this year. It just seems that the atmosphere is different this year. ,
 
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Midlo Cane Fan said:
I rarely voice my own opinions on here, but I simply cannot stand how about half of this board continually bashes Mario. These mopey dopes were obviously expecting at least 9 or 10 wins last year, without taking into account the @&^% roster and state of the locker room he walked into.

It takes time to rebuild after years of devastation. To show how some of the all time greatest coaches did in their first 2-4 years at a major school, here's some records for a few.

Bear Bryant: TA&M-1-9, 7-2-1, 9-0-1.
ALA- 5-4, 7-2-2, 8-1-2.

Joe Paterno: PSU- 5-5-0, 8-2-1, 11-0-0.

Nick Saban: ALA- 7-6, 12-2.

Bobby Bowden: FSU- 5-6, 10-2.

Woody Hayes: OSU- 4-3-2, 6-3, 6-3, 10-0.

John McKay: USC- 4-6, 4-5-1, 11-0.

Does everyone see the progression? It takes time to install the culture and roster changes. Stop griping about the last 20 years. I've suffered right along with you. It was a combination of bad hiring and bad leadership.

And don't even @ me about NIL, because the paradigm shift happened right when Mario got here. Lots of people swore that it would be the difference maker for us, before the rest of CFB caught up.

So please, stop whining and moaning and be a Canes fan and support the team without spewing your agony for others to read.
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Shut up Midlo! Nobody wants to hear your BS excuses!! We had more than enough talent to beat mid Tennessee state, Duke and other ****** ACC teams! Blame Mario for making ****** hires after taking 12 years to conduct his searches. I don’t want to hear about some records of coaches who coached 65 years ago. They didn’t have the portal. We may not have had the talent to compete against Clemson but everyone else on the schedule we should have been able to compete with. Stop the excuses!!
I think we win 10 games this year with the right coaches here and more portal help. I agree with you on the locker room and culture but that seems to have been fixed now. No excuses!
 
Midlo Cane Fan said:
I rarely voice my own opinions on here, but I simply cannot stand how about half of this board continually bashes Mario. These mopey dopes were obviously expecting at least 9 or 10 wins last year, without taking into account the @&^% roster and state of the locker room he walked into.

It takes time to rebuild after years of devastation. To show how some of the all time greatest coaches did in their first 2-4 years at a major school, here's some records for a few.

Bear Bryant: TA&M-1-9, 7-2-1, 9-0-1.
ALA- 5-4, 7-2-2, 8-1-2.

Joe Paterno: PSU- 5-5-0, 8-2-1, 11-0-0.

Nick Saban: ALA- 7-6, 12-2.

Bobby Bowden: FSU- 5-6, 10-2.

Woody Hayes: OSU- 4-3-2, 6-3, 6-3, 10-0.

John McKay: USC- 4-6, 4-5-1, 11-0.

Does everyone see the progression? It takes time to install the culture and roster changes. Stop griping about the last 20 years. I've suffered right along with you. It was a combination of bad hiring and bad leadership.

And don't even @ me about NIL, because the paradigm shift happened right when Mario got here. Lots of people swore that it would be the difference maker for us, before the rest of CFB caught up.

So please, stop whining and moaning and be a Canes fan and support the team without spewing your agony for others to read.
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Sorry, but I cannnot get over getting our asses kick by Middle Tennessee State at Home. If we are 8-4 or better this year, then I could let it go, but until then no way.
 
Canesbro31 said:
Exactly, why is everyone on such opposite sides there’s no room for realists.

Mario’s 1st year was the worst for the canes in my lifetime, I understand the culture change argument but there’s no reason Miami should be below .500 in the ACC. There’s no excuse for that and the coordinator hires are a failure on his part.

With that being said I’m excited for this year and believe Mario can still turn this around. I believe he is capable of bringing the toughness we’ve needed for years in order to finally compete for the ACC and hopefully more.

We’re so close to the season it’s time for the mopes to give a little hope. And the slurpers to understand why some aren’t 100% bought in yet.
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I know you didn’t mean “everyone” literally.
IMO, the mope/middle/slurped percentages are 25/45/25….a lot like politics. It’s just that the middle grounders are less vocal.
No to be forgotten, I left 5% of the pie for the “Miami Fans” who are just busting our balls.
 
KingB02 said:
Shut up Midlo! Nobody wants to hear your BS excuses!! We had more than enough talent to beat mid Tennessee state, Duke and other ****** ACC teams! Blame Mario for making ****** hires after taking 12 years to conduct his searches. I don’t want to hear about some records of coaches who coached 65 years ago. They didn’t have the portal. We may not have had the talent to compete against Clemson but everyone else on the schedule we should have been able to compete with. Stop the excuses!!
I think we win 10 games this year with the right coaches here and more portal help. I agree with you on the locker room and culture but that seems to have been fixed now. No excuses!
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Posters like you are exactly why I made this thread. All I just read was anger and frustration coming out.

And don't tell me to shut up.
 
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Brooklyndee said:



That's what I took part of putting into this universe and it's what y'all simply refuse to understand. We're not content with simply winning some games. Well be content when we have a standard again. Till then y'all do u & keep that energy. Cause we did best when we knew it was us against everyone. Our fans included.
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That right there is why I picked him in the "If you could bring back one player" thread. It's not just wanting to win, it's hating to lose and doing everything you can to prevent it.
 
Pointing out blatant failures and expecting improvements isn't being a "mope". Expecting the big name, big money head coach to outperform the previous bargain basement rookie head coach isn't unrealistic expectations.

Year 1 was an absolute F grade on the field.

The results were so bad they actually convinced some fans that getting back to 7-5 would be a great improvement.

7-5 got Manny Diaz fired.

It's year 2 now. There needs to be significant improvement. It doesn't take 4 or 5 years to build a team in the modern era. Especially with a transfer portal and generous NIL benefactors.
 
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We were an absolute embarrassment last year. I went to my first Miami game in the late 70s and last year was arguably the worst football I've ever seen us play. I obviously hope that Cristobal can turn it around, but as far as I'm concerned he doesn't deserve any grace at this point after that exhibition.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
And yet you do not acknowledge the other myriad changes. New DC, new WR, LB and RB coaches. 18+ kids transferred out. 40 new players in with #7 recruiting class and #7 portal class. This is complete reset for the program. Should be an interesting season.
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Why should he get credit for resetting the failure of a coaching staff he hired in the first place? He didn’t inherit Manny’s staff—he was given the largest coaching staff budget in school history and made one poor hire after another. We’re still seeing the consequences of those poor initial hires with the disaster that continues to be Addae and DB recruiting.
 
CanesSkins26 said:
Why should he get credit for resetting the failure of a coaching staff he hired in the first place? He didn’t inherit Manny’s staff—he was given the largest coaching staff budget in school history and made one poor hire after another. We’re still seeing the consequences of those poor initial hires with the disaster that continues to be Addae and DB recruiting.
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Better he retain the same ****** staff and wear them around his neck like an albatross?
 
Brooklyndee said:
Point would be he made changes... He adapted. Yet y'all (not necessarily u)still don't give him credit for it. You can't constantly move the bar. He addressed what he had to and now it's something else. So let the man work. That's what he's supposed to do.
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He hired an oc who is completely different than any OC he has hired in past
 
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